The Ultra Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread

Street Fighter V
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I guess another Season can easily come with new general design… Assuming It can come only in july/August due esport shit, It will be a lot of time SFV sticked with the G Gold/spotlights theme

And we got leakers that said Oro and Rose were already a thing

Plus on general SFV at the moment feels purposely incomplete (see example G)

Idk i think if SFV still got at least 2 years before another SF come, one more Season can easily sneak in… Season V

I guess personal preference swing between who want SFV to die and who want It to stick and grow one more time
I’m in latter group for sure

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This is and is not kinda related to fighting games nowadays. Windows (the OS) has been similar to fighting games since day 1 with all of their easter eggs, updates, versions, upgrades etc.

Even though Microsoft states that there will be no Windows 11, I still think there will be if they don’t get Windows 10 right. Basically, Windows 10 was an unfinished product upon release (gee, where have I see this before).

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Bison can only be postponed. Just like this thread, he is inevitable!!!

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Screw that. Keep him in the roster but leave him out the main plot.

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7413

This
I’m ok with Bison keeping return, i WANT that

Just not as main villain, for as many chapters as possible

In SF4 worked well

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7414

NO! Its not.

Why would it automatically would play like Mahvel? Lol

Mahvel is a fun game but an all star Capcom fighting game doesn’t restrict its gameplay to air comboes.

Obviously your familiar with this cancelled game because it was mostly talked here

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Yet your not familiar with Capcom vs SNK failed spiritual successor because you justified an interfranchise crossover to be played like Mahvel. lol

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There was no Capcom interccrossover fighting game that is as diverse like mahvel lol.

Even if you would judge both whatever Capcom crossover with SNK like this two.

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Why?

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Mahvel is the pinnacle of crossovers of Capcom titles in 90s and not those SNK crossover as reference for diversity.

Why? Because those SNK crossover back in the day are just mostly just casted with Street Fighters compare to Mahvel titles.

For like you who just likely learned 90s Capcom character from reading comments from other geek and nerd in threads like this.

From someone like you who campaigns xkira and support xkira’s dummy account tatsuroko aka ninjaworldwarrior16

and dislike Marvel Crossover, Since likely you never played it and experienced those titles in their hayday. Even failed that probably just started playing fighting games at later Soul Calibur not Soul Blade or even the original SC.

What funnier is not even knowing Jin Saotome first appearance.

JIN SAOTOME is BASIC. lol

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And also coming from a guy persist wrong ideas in animation and 3D then claim in previous debates.

Your self entitlement later proves you being fraud that mostly create fake process on how things done just to persist and win arguments against people who doesn’t have an idea of what you are talking of.

For someone that knows really the process its easily for me to see especially, I like it when you lie and persist because its easy for your argument to be destroyed. Your exposing yourself by repeating wrong things. Lol

All you do is soundbytes, You trick individuals using unfamiliar terms you heard from others knowledgeable rather than how I explain how things work and why it doesn’t. You hate detail if you had one it’s most from repeated and echo other peoples idea and work.

Yet to be fair I know you can draw and knows sports but the rest nah.

The game is already overwealming of characters?

40 is alread above average for a modern 1v1 fighter.

All it needs is a new multiplayer and single player mode.

You claim missing because of the article recently posted, Yet his already a secret boss and It has no connection to justify them needs of additional characters.

It depends on which universe in the comics that based there are multiple version of peter parker and there are tons of reboots and resets in the comics. Thats not the same case with Ryu.

And every comic, tv series and movie obviously with young Peted Parker isn’t interconnected to each other.

So the best example, should be a franchise series with continuity but without the idea of aging and leaping years or timeskip.

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It worked well until you realize that in the end Seth was going to do basically fuck all aside from trying to snatch Ryu’s powers, only to get stomped on by both Juri and Bison in the end. And if SIN actually became a new antagonistic force in the SF universe instead of just attempting to rebel against Shadaloo and immediately getting blown the fuck up within the same. Instead it all went back to Shadaloo being at the center stage yet again. But at least right now things are looking a bit prettier with Neo Shadaloo being neutral, Shadaloo being in shambles, G apparently being the real big bad, and Illuminati revealing themselves to the world, so effectively we have 4 potential villain (groups) to pose a threat to the World Warriors

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It worked because there is a long gap between SF2 and SF3 timeline.

SF4 is pseudo SF alpha to SF3.

Another Bison main boss in future SF titles that set the story beyond SF3 timeline.

Is a negative and frown upon by many.

This is why Street Fighter story is dislike mostly by casuals.

Its not because it’s character does not aged or because characters are returning.

Its because the center stage, spotlight and the plot is redundant the difference is just the timeline.

Bison can exist in nightmares already and also as Phantom Bison that can haunt others like Nash in ASF. Its fine alredy for Bison too stay there and be that without the plot being shadaloo again.

Fang is fine too but thats it.

We don’t need 5 version of Bison same as 5 version of Ryu every new game.

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7417

This is fine. It will give us the opportunity to develop the character in different ways, but noting that it is in Bison’s very nature to climb to the top of any dominance hierarchy, and he has a way of getting there eventually before falling off. Rinse and repeat forever. That is the tragedy of his fate that Rose takes note of in SF5 via Menat.

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That’s fucking wack though, it just gives Capcom an excuse to put him at the forefront of the ongoing story arc over and over and over again. He ran his course, let somebody else take the spotlight. KOF does it right, MK does it right, hell even Tekken kinda does it right

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You can have a revolving door of villains, it won’t change the fact the Joker is THE Batman villain.

Bison is that villain. Accept your fate! THE WORLD IS DOOMED!

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Batmanverse has the privilege of having like a dozen different villains, all dangerous in their own ways. Street Fighter doesn’t have that and thus running with the same big bad for almost 3 decades is just lame and got old already

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His not the Joker equivalent because there is no Batman.

His not even the Magneto.

Or the Doom a like.

He can be just there as someone who haunts others.

We got tons of potential. Even not every game should be centered at him or the rise of his power.

He can also exist in flash back memory battle too without getting the center stage.

Future SF titles doesn’t need a main master mind villain that every needs to settle a score or save the world.

Some Fighting Games already This not just KOF’s NEST SAGA.

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Problem spamming Bison is each time he get defeated he lose credibility next attempt

For his own good, he will do better just in the side of the scene doing evil laugh like “i’m planning things and shit” while somebody else rep the actual evil Boss threat

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Disagree. He feels like more of a badass in ASF than ever.

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One of the few things ASF did well was to make Bison look like a legitimate threat to the world.

In the various games, anime, movies, etc Bison has always had weird and/or nebulous plans. He holds a martial arts tournament. He’s kidnapping and brainwashing martial artists. He has clone bodies and resurrection plans. He heads a worldwide criminal empire that is doing regular criminal empire stuff for regular criminal empire reasons. When he does attempt something bigger than just kidnapping or beating up some martial artists, he gets stopped before he can even really get started.

In ASF, his plan is arguably sillier than ever. He is also, as ever, defeated. The difference is in the details. The silliness is somewhat alleviated by it being FANG’s operation; Bison’s own goal is brutally straightforward and even logical for him. He is defeated, but here he isn’t angry, panicked, or vindictive. He simply stands tall and laughs as his body is destroyed. While his ultimate goal remains increasing his personal power, he’s now operating at a worldwide threat level instead of threatening a handful of individuals.

And Bison succeeds at throwing the world into chaos. Barring Capcom simply ignoring the consequences or retconning ASF, Bison has scarred humanity at large. People aren’t just going to forget mysterious metal spheres appearing over major cities, setting off EMP blasts that turn a night sky into day. That’s without even getting into both immediate and long term injuries and fatalities. Even if you wanted to be optimistic, fatalities would still be counted in the thousands. Pessimistically, the long term fatalities could potentially be counted in the millions.

Of course this does leave Bison in a position where a future return will very likely only weaken him. After all, where could he go from here? He “won”, and yet still lost to Ryu. He seemingly accepted defeat, even if he expected to return. He can’t go bigger than worldwide terror, but just trying to steal Ryu’s body again at this point is going to bring him right back down to Akuma or Kage’s level.

At this point, Bison might best be served by staying a never realized background threat as others fully take center stage. The idea of Bison’s return itself is enough to work as a B-plot for Neo Shadaloo. While not to the degree of Seth’s madness, characters like Ed and Falke will be under the shadow of Bison’s return, and affected by the risk of Bison’s return, even if Bison makes no actual effort to return. Similar goes for F.A.N.G (if he survived) or anyone that tries to follow in F.A.N.G’s footsteps, who will either start prepping for Bison’s return or directly attempting to accelerate Bison’s return. Just don’t have Bison himself actually attempting to return. (If BIson attempts to return and fails, that’s just another Bison appearance that led to pointless failure. If Bison attempts to return and succeeds, that just distracts from the other stories you are hopefully trying to tell.) Save that for the future.

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Bison for SF8 boss! Who’s with meeeee?!

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I agree
As does Zangief or Dhalsim or Urien
Or like new characters like Fang and Rashid gained charisma from ASF

ASF did some characters right, no doubt, plus part of the charm is we never had anything like that for SF

Does’nt change much the fact that next time Bison will try to menace the world i’ll be like “oh it’s Bison… again”

It’s not that SF lack alternatives (or the ability to build new ones), is that they seem afraid of left comfort zone when creating a Boss

Spam Bison or keep sucking Akuma’s Dick does’nt help much SF

Meanwhile they made up a great design/idea in Necalli, and the completely ruined his run to bend him down to their old habits

I hope they will play better the G card, even if we had already seen an old Boss (Gill) come and kick his ass in his own G-show

Notice a trend
There was a time when new bosses gave a vibe of progression

Sagat
Bison
Akuma
Gill

Then if we go watch new bosses/potential bosses

Seth - has been portrayed as inferior sub-product of Bison legacy, in a game get defeated by Ryu, then fail at pose even decent threat to Bison and get wrecked, then Juri stomp his pieces because fuck him

Necalli - super hype, all potential of the world to be V BOSS, coming as SF’s JoJo Kars (with some SFEX Garuda gimmick in)… get defeated by everybody and relegate to the role of a “test” for Ryu

G - outside tha giant mystery aura that i hope will bring somewhere, they gave him minimum build up smashing few mid/low-tier cans like Rashid or Menat (and i guess Dan/Elena/Hakan) then Gill come and put his President of the World butt on the earth he love so much, without make it seem that hard battle while at it

V Seth - i guess for some him being now a waifu trap boss may be something hype, but tbh outside a new design overall well done (is not good as clothes-Seth we never got, but better than SF4 Seth) it’s a never asked for second take at the most mediocre Boss SF ever had, and with no particular indication of having potential to be THAT big deal

Everything they did after SF3 seems to lack ambition under that point of view, every new villain face seems to have to bow down to the past.
On other hand SF3 had arrogant mindset, but this is another story

SFV did a great job at respect tradition, and i LOVED how some historic SF chars got finally the respect they deserve, but the ambition is lacking

Next time a main SF chapter sell us a new final Boss, i hope is going to be a NEW face and will be legitimized as the undisputed villain for that chapter.
Wich does not mean he have to defeat Bison/Akuma/Gill or worse make them look like bitches, but at least to not suffer that destiny himself at theyr hands LOL

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I will be ok with that, if he will present himself in a new way

Hopefully you realize that this will mean like 12-14 years from now lol :smiley:

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Joker’s not the best example. I love The animated series and many of his appearances, but it’s surpassed saturation. Everything is a Joker plot, even the crossovers. Batman and the Shadow? Joker’s the central villain. Batman and TMNT? Gotta get Joker. Prequel game featuring a classic villain? Surprise it’s Joker in disguise.

It gets tiring, but then with the overuse, you get the writers put into a desperate position of having to go drastic to keep things fresh and then we end up with Joker cutting off his face and wearing it as a mask.

Sometimes I want a mob story with Two Face and or Black Mask, a horrific and tragic Clayface tale, a globe trotting trek with Rhas Al Ghul or a Kung Fu showcase with Lady Shiva.

Street Fighter has never been allowed to go all that far. The canon games, Arika, crossovers, etc all feature him.

I love Bison, he’s one of the finest endbosses ever, but I don’t want him to be used so much and so frequently vat the forefront, that his legend diminishes and SF tanks. I wanna see the creative journey the series can take, I want the impending end of a post SF3 embargo to truly free the series and then have every following numbered entry build forward. We’ve had enough prequels to fill generations.

I don’t want Bison to permanently leave the roster, but give him a test as main villain material for a long while and let others have a chance to shine and grow. Gill and the Illuminati barley got a chance due to the fighting game crash of that era, but now that people have warmed up to the characters and SF has recovered, let’s give them another chance and, learning from past mistakes, gradually bring in newcomer bosses and factions.

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