The Ultra Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread

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We in here!


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No.

Now , we in here.

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There are 2 main theories in my headcanon that I play around with:

1- 19th Century Nazi Soldier like @Cestus_II pretty much described.

The problem with this theory is that his Alpha body is too young looking to be his original body, and there is no indication that Bison developed cloning tech before Alpha 2. Prior to this technology, Bison likely jumped from host to host by sensing they are compatible, defeating them, then taking over (Kinda like what happened to Rose).

So the issue here is Bison’s alpha body has to be his original body. It holds his DNA which he used to create and mold all his “children” from. So either Bison looks much younger than he lets on in Alpha or he is actually just 40-50 years old then and Rose was his first body jump.

We can definitely interpret that he is attached to his original face/body in some fashion and always goes back to it when he is done with the in-between bodies. Like most Dictators in history, he likely has a vain and eccentric streak, so taking care of his looks and the image he projects out into the world is probably something he considers (hence the statues everywhere).

2- Bison is not a human being have a demonic experience, he is a demon having a human experience.

This theory plays with the idea that Bison is a devilish force of nature or became a devilish force of nature. This theory implies that Bison likely has no preferred sex or appearance, has had many throughout the ages, and it’s simply a coincidence that in the decade that the SF main story arc takes place, Bison happened to look the way he did. Probably out of convenience and practicality.

The sophistication of Shadaloo’s technology in 20th Century probably made his body jumping shtick a whole lot more accessible.

As out there as this theory sounds, it has a lot of basis in the canon. A lot of what Bison says in Alpha 3 especially alludes to him being beyond humanity and synonymous with Evil itself (Chun-Li, Vega, and Cammy endings spring to mind). His demeanor and attitude especially in SF5 show utter indifference and apathy to everything going on around him, the kind you would expect from someone or something not bound to rules or time.

The problem with this theory is that Bison has “DNA” or “clones” of him, implying that he has a human origin of some sort. Then again, if Bison is essentially the/a Devil, he could’ve faked his human origin. I doubt anyone in Shadaloo knows his truth if it were his truth. Only Rose might sense this, but not completely.


Whatever the case, I hope Capcom never really delves into his origin too deeply. Removing the mystique from villains ultimately ruins them, especially if it attempts to humanize them or give too much reason to their rhyme.

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I got 2 versions of Bison the first one was heavily inspired by Doom alone and the other one was combination of Vandal Savage and Doom.

I really like the idea of Vandal Savage having multiple persona across the history, while the whole esoteric idea of Doom which is my favorite villain and the reason why I wanted the concept of a Monitor Cyborg to return in SF4 and be part of Bison’s return, because of the idea of Doom bots.

I’m trying to find an idea the would work the best that can solve and would work in different interpretation. Got to re-watch a more recent movie and got interested in manga yet I’m trying to mix it with my 2 previous Bison fan fiction origin.

I’m trying to dig my previous post in 2015? and 2017 and re-write with those inspiration.

A fanfic that would work along with the complicated SOUL idea of one soul while keeping the Vandal Savage that exist as many persona in the history and has every esoteric like Doom appeal.

I’ll post it as soon as I finished it. It’s kinda complicated in the beginning but tries to answer and tries to solves every Bison plot whole.

Something that would also work with the idea of Shin Bison in SFEX2 and can cover the several area of confusing plot that was brought in by Bak in the recent discussion.

I’m also trying to build around that idea but in a more confusing concept not a demon or a force of nature, but rather a phenomena that is beyond explanation.

Yet synonymous to evil and had lived throughout ages that are point’s, I find interesting to link with Vandal Savage because of those in A3 references with Bison.

Not going to lie, I’m not a fan of either of this theories.

For the first one something just strikes me as odd that an European would go to the East to find the secrets of what is and always has been called Psycho Power. It’s just such a weird name to give this that I can’t imagine any ancient teachings calling it that. And while we don’t know a lot about it in the first place, so for all we know it isn’t the original name, and the holders of the power are Westeners, so they could have adapted it, somehow an expert in those kind of teachings like Bison is required to be for the theory to work just wouldn’t do either of those things.
That’s why I mentioned before that I prefer a spin of this theory where Bison is from the East (likely North Korean, the closest to Asian Nazis, especially assuming Japanese devs would prefer to whitewash their history a little) that found this power in a Western setting, possibly Scandinavia, tying it to the berserk (psycho :wink:) state of mind Vikings are sometimes said to have taken in battle.

The second one is just waaaay too esoteric. And while these days it isn’t something out of the realm of possibility for Street Fighter, I think it does more harm than good for the character. Sure, it helps explain his incredible powers but cheapens a lot of Bison’s character and the SFers struggles. His rivalry with Ryu, his desire to be the strongest warrior in the world and the building of the organization that hurt so many of our characters and their families are all much more relatable if done by a regular human with immense power than if done by the devil, basically.
If this were to be true, it turns everything since SF2 from a struggle between human nature, represented in both the one-on-one aspect of martial arts, but also in the corruption of trusted organizations like the Air Force that betrayed Nash and the fight between less than good people, like Ninja clans, and the true evil of the human heart that Bison and his minions encompass.
What this theory reminds me of is the shitty Wonder Woman movie ending, where the message of the whole movie, that humanity isn’t all pure and innocent and they need a role model like Diana to guide them on the right path, is thrown out when they decide to include a final boss moment where the eeevuuuul god of war was indeed pulling the strings.

But ultimately, while it’s cool to speculate, this:

Is the right answer.

While I don’t think Bison can be ruined even with the shittiest of backstories, because ultimately it’s not what would drive him in the present and it wouldn’t excuse his deeds against the rest of the cast, which is the actual conflict that we love him for, it’s probably for the better not to tie a rock to his leg that he has to drag on from now on.

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The legendary @Daemos has done it again. The Psycho Power… is eternal.

Aaaaand, you guys constantly make me want to keep playing SFV. I’m in Chicago on a work trip right now. After getting back to the hotel, I’m go over some other story-related aspects of SFV (after busting a few heads online with Menat and my homeboy Ryu, with some Bison on the side).

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Psycho is from ancient Greek for spirit, mind, or mental. Psycho Power is also what Bison calls the dark perversion of Soul Power that he quite very likely pioneered. Meaning that Bison is the first “Psycho Power” wielder in history.

More or less true but it would help explain a lot of the otherworldly nature of the character, and a lot of his dialogue.

He is essentially an immortal god of war/agent of chaos-type character. It’s not as esoteric or far fetched as it seems at first glance. If you dig deeper you will see it actually a legitimate basis in the canon, albeit subtly presented.

I think ultimately, the truth is somewhere between both theories:

Bison is an older-than-you-think Nazi-esque fighter with a military background who forged his own path to the top of the food chain when he unlocked the dark potential of a rare mystical martial art he was studying. At some point, he decided to take his Military expertise and combine it with the essence of Psycho Power (fear, despair, hate) to will into existence an Order that will bring about chaos, anywhere anyhow. Why? To become the strongest of all of course! Who needs world domination?!

Somewhere along the way, he ceased being human when his powers grew strong enough to subjugate nature itself to his will. But while he may have lost his humanity (willingly obliterated every trace of it is more apt), he never lost his sense of humor and irony, even in face of the Absurdity of the SF universe.

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In my fanfic I still keep Bison as a human origin part of a beyond explainable phenomena that made him lived through ages and different lives were he learned technology, sciences, mystic arts and martial arts, then always rise up as a persona to be a threat humanity in various time in history. I’ll post it soon as I dug into my previous post and I have been in phone lately.

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By the way here’s YagamiFire take.

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Im here :+1:

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Hello friends! (Kinda dumb how after a year and a half, we have to create a new one, but I guess it’s a good thing too.)

Like the MIghty Bison… WE WILL NOT DIE!!!

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When you cut your birthday cake and frosting gets stuck on the blade.
Happy birthday, you handsome devil!

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vega-intro
Vega: Hmph! You need to do better than shallow compliments if you wish to escape the beautiful release of death that I shall give you.

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I don’t know if Street Fighter will ever feature a female boss but if they do they will probably follow Seth’s route and she’ll look similar to this chick:

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Nah, she is more likely to look like this:

Although, I think we mostly all agreed on @Darc_Requiem’s interpretation of a female Illuminati Elder Boss.

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If female Bison ever makes it in I wonder if he’ll remake his elite assassins with 12 male dolls.

Street Fighter’s design team defaults to “blue eyed and blond” whenever they think about Caucasian Westerners.

That gets pretty silly. It seems more fitting for the SF universe if Bison started as human and has just transitioned, through his experience with Psycho Power, to a force that is no longer permanently tied to a single body.

It fits with what we see with characters like Akuma and Oro. Even if you view their pursuit as one of spiritual ascendance, Bison shows someone forcefully creating a physical spiritual ascendance. It also fits with what we see of the Satsui no Hado and Kage in SFV, which pushes forward the idea that the whole spiritual side of SF has a reality to it (and with Kage it even shows the semblance of a sentient self.) (Necalli also pushes forward this idea, but we all know Capcom has already forgotten entirely about Necalli.)

But taking away Bison’s origin as a human diminishes him in my eyes. He becomes just another generic evil force, where as a human he is a warning of a path that humanity can take.

As for throwing Bison back to some body-swapping entity that has existed for millennia, I think that diminishes him as well simply for being so lazily cliche. Oh, its the big bad. What’s his real origin? It’s Cain, or Abel, or Judas Iscariot, or the Roman soldier that pierced the side of Jesus, or whatever.

Similar goes for making Bison an actual Nazi, a WW2 German soldier, or even some Nazi-wannabe, again it is such an overused and lazy cliche to show how “evil” someone is.

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