The Ultra Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread

[Daemos]

For the first one something just strikes me as odd that an European would go to the East to find the secrets of what is and always has been called Psycho Power. It’s just such a weird name to give this that I can’t imagine any ancient teachings calling it that. And while we don’t know a lot about it in the first place, so for all we know it isn’t the original name, and the holders of the power are Westeners, so they could have adapted it, somehow an expert in those kind of teachings like Bison is required to be for the theory to work just wouldn’t do either of those things.

Psycho is from ancient Greek for spirit, mind, or mental. Psycho Power is also what Bison calls the dark perversion of Soul Power that he quite very likely pioneered. Meaning that Bison is the first “Psycho Power” wielder in history.

I think it does more harm than good for the character.

More or less true but it would help explain a lot of the otherworldly nature of the character, and a lot of his dialogue.

He is essentially an immortal god of war/agent of chaos-type character. It’s not as esoteric or far fetched as it seems at first glance. If you dig deeper you will see it actually a legitimate basis in the canon, albeit subtly presented.

I think ultimately, the truth is somewhere between both theories:

Bison is an older-than-you-think Nazi-esque fighter with a military background who forged his own path to the top of the food chain when he unlocked the dark potential of a rare mystical martial art he was studying. At some point, he decided to take his Military expertise and combine it with the essence of Psycho Power (fear, despair, hate) to will into existence an Order that will bring about chaos, anywhere anyhow. Why? To become the strongest of all of course! Who needs world domination?!

Somewhere along the way, he ceased being human when his powers grew strong enough to subjugate nature itself to his will. But while he may have lost his humanity (willingly obliterated every trace of it is more apt), he never lost his sense of humor and irony, even in face of the Absurdity of the SF universe.

[The_Shakunetsu]

In my fanfic I still keep Bison as a human origin part of a beyond explainable phenomena that made him lived through ages and different lives were he learned technology, sciences, mystic arts and martial arts, then always rise up as a persona to be a threat humanity in various time in history. I’ll post it soon as I dug into my previous post and I have been in phone lately.

[The_Shakunetsu]

By the way here’s YagamiFire take.

The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

I’m sure you could do it all on your own, but what if we collaborated on an unauthorized biography of Dictator and pitched it to Capcom? I actually had a short story written about younger Bison in Thailand rolling with the Thai army to some ancient sites to research leads. Couple points I made in it was that everyone in the vehicle with Bison knew it was impossible for a foreigner like him to have the rank he had…but noone questioned it and that made everyone particularly nervous around him…

[Spoonman]

Im here

[Chun-Li_Forever]

Hello friends! (Kinda dumb how after a year and a half, we have to create a new one, but I guess it’s a good thing too.)

Like the MIghty Bison… WE WILL NOT DIE!!!

[Dracu]

When you cut your birthday cake and frosting gets stuck on the blade.
Happy birthday, you handsome devil!

[TazyryLipo]

Vega: Hmph! You need to do better than shallow compliments if you wish to escape the beautiful release of death that I shall give you.

[Magegg]

I don’t know if Street Fighter will ever feature a female boss but if they do they will probably follow Seth’s route and she’ll look similar to this chick:

[Daemos]

Nah, she is more likely to look like this:

Although, I think we mostly all agreed on @Darc_Requiem’s interpretation of a female Illuminati Elder Boss.

[Dracu]

If female Bison ever makes it in I wonder if he’ll remake his elite assassins with 12 male dolls.

[Baines]

Will not be that surprised it original Bison used to be blue eyed and blond*

*glad he is’nt we already got blond invasion in SFV LOL

Street Fighter’s design team defaults to “blue eyed and blond” whenever they think about Caucasian Westerners.

The problem with this theory is that Bison has “DNA” or “clones” of him, implying that he has a human origin of some sort. Then again, if Bison is essentially the/a Devil, he could’ve faked his human origin.

That gets pretty silly. It seems more fitting for the SF universe if Bison started as human and has just transitioned, through his experience with Psycho Power, to a force that is no longer permanently tied to a single body.

It fits with what we see with characters like Akuma and Oro. Even if you view their pursuit as one of spiritual ascendance, Bison shows someone forcefully creating a physical spiritual ascendance. It also fits with what we see of the Satsui no Hado and Kage in SFV, which pushes forward the idea that the whole spiritual side of SF has a reality to it (and with Kage it even shows the semblance of a sentient self.) (Necalli also pushes forward this idea, but we all know Capcom has already forgotten entirely about Necalli.)

But taking away Bison’s origin as a human diminishes him in my eyes. He becomes just another generic evil force, where as a human he is a warning of a path that humanity can take.

As for throwing Bison back to some body-swapping entity that has existed for millennia, I think that diminishes him as well simply for being so lazily cliche. Oh, its the big bad. What’s his real origin? It’s Cain, or Abel, or Judas Iscariot, or the Roman soldier that pierced the side of Jesus, or whatever.

Similar goes for making Bison an actual Nazi, a WW2 German soldier, or even some Nazi-wannabe, again it is such an overused and lazy cliche to show how “evil” someone is.

[Cestus_II]

19th Century Nazi Soldier like @Cestus_II pretty much described.

The problem with this theory is that his Alpha body is too young looking to be his original body, and there is no indication that Bison developed cloning tech before Alpha 2. Prior to this technology, Bison likely jumped from host to host by sensing they are compatible, defeating them, then taking over (Kinda like what happened to Rose).

For how i see it (wich is compatible with your vision) is that Bison’s ability to jump from a body to another is relates entirely to his PP abilities and antecedent to his cloning technology.

So SFA Bison can just be the last body host he invaded in the old way, and when they got the tech they cloned new bodies using it (wich was powerful host) as base for 2, 4 and V.

Is possible they probably did’nt had enough to re-built the true original Bison as quickly(while they got more data about SFA body), and with the dna/data they got from the original they after end up having all these blond blue eyes clones
Two separated clones projects.
One easier but with limited results (the Bisons we know), the other more difficult and longer times, but with greater potential due dna compatibility with PP

Is possible that the reason host bodies are getting consumed is’nt because PP is too powerful and burn the host, but the fact that there is an incompatibility, a dissonance between his soul and a different body.
Wich can be the reason the clones from his (original body) dna have all common traits but none of them looks like the Bison we know

[Cestus_II]

For the first one something just strikes me as odd that an European would go to the East to find the secrets of what is and always has been called Psycho Power. It’s just such a weird name to give this that I can’t imagine any ancient teachings calling it that. And while we don’t know a lot about it in the first place, so for all we know it isn’t the original name, and the holders of the power are Westeners, so they could have adapted it, somehow an expert in those kind of teachings like Bison is required to be for the theory to work just wouldn’t do either of those things.

Well, the nazis actually end up searching esotheric shit for they crazy furer outside europe(they even reached Tibet)… the three movies i mentioned play a romanticization of something with an actual base of truth

As for the western name, if Bison is western he could have called that power he discovered in Asia in a way that make sense for him “Psycho Power”… power of the mind, seem a very “outsider” way to describe martial arts ki magic shit

Just like the jap ansatsuken crowd called another ki corruption “Satsui no Hado”

An american see a cat, a japanese a neko, i see a gatto… still we’re all watching the same animal

That’s why I mentioned before that I prefer a spin of this theory where Bison is from the East (likely North Korean, the closest to Asian Nazis, especially assuming Japanese devs would prefer to whitewash their history a little) that found this power in a Western setting, possibly Scandinavia, tying it to the berserk (psycho ) state of mind Vikings are sometimes said to have taken in battle.

I’m trying to build with what we got… the euro in asia seem to have some ground for theory (example clones from his dna being blond/blue eye)

Then, separated, i don’t deny i PREFER Bison to be western, mostly because the Serious Business of SF universe is already heavy east asian settled.
Hero (my SF fav char) is jap, the very highest tier all jap (gingerdad, yellowmaster, bearduncle), with the exceptions of Gill and a giant “?” origin mark on Bison… so for variety i’m glad post very earlySF2 they eventually moved away from the Washizaki to hint something more western.
There was also the interessing non-east asian idea of an atzec Boss treat with Nec, but they trashed him so quickly lol

I like SF to keep the spirit of “world is big as fuck and full of powerful warriors everywere” instead fall in the glorious nippon nationalist bukkake trip Grappler Baki manga end up with

I will have really liked Nec to be Boss level with the Greats… instead he got beated up by Rog lol

Will like see a new Boss (no shitty Seth kind, true Boss) be from middle east, or africa, or russia, or indian, or scandinavian, or whatever… to keep that SF spirit the more variety the better

From there no problem about Ryu being the hero, again, my fav char

[ruthless_nash]

Bisons just the opposite of Sodom. An asian cat that just wants to be white

[Cestus_II]

Similar goes for making Bison an actual Nazi, a WW2 German soldier, or even some Nazi-wannabe, again it is such an overused and lazy cliche to show how “evil” someone is.

Tbh if capcom did’nt wanted we to theory him as nazi, they made a bit a mistake making him a dictator in nazi uniform, with blondblueyed aryan looking super humans project, an hidden HQ in south america and a fucking hitler painting in his room* lol

*no bullshit he REALLY got it in a SF2 art lol

[The_Shakunetsu]

I’m also trying to find a way that would make Bison having multiple nationalities throughout time and history.

I mean in a more organically and biologically natural not just artificially modified or altered.

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Digging from old post.

Interestingly I dug this. lol

In the previous thread I said some parallels with Samurai Jack in after Kage’s reveal, while in this post I was currently watching Samurai Jack that time.

SFV Character Request/Anticipation Thread

Watching Samurai Jack lately, interesting part is with green warrior and Jack’s conscience… I’m thinking that it’s more interesting to have a twist that Ryu would discover that it is not Akuma that troubles him with hallucinations and dreams of murderous intention and situations, but the Oni that is a universal spirit that haunt, provoke, temps and seduce SNH to every users is a victim that suffers similar to him this include Goutetsu and Akuma, because it’s ridiculous for Akuma to have omnipre…

I was talking something about haunting and hallucinations.

Then i did post a portion of udon comic where there was Evil Ryu vs Ryu. Which I am saying that it should be something similar but not that.

[The_Shakunetsu]

That gets pretty silly. It seems more fitting for the SF universe if Bison started as human and has just transitioned, through his experience with Psycho Power, to a force that is no longer permanently tied to a single body.

I’m trying to build up something that still makes him human in origin.

But taking away Bison’s origin as a human diminishes him in my eyes. He becomes just another generic evil force, where as a human he is a warning of a path that humanity can take.

Agree with the importance of human origin.

As for throwing Bison back to some body-swapping entity that has existed for millennia, I think that diminishes him as well simply for being so lazily cliche. Oh, its the big bad. What’s his real origin? It’s Cain, or Abel, or Judas Iscariot, or the Roman soldier that pierced the side of Jesus, or whatever.

Similar goes for making Bison an actual Nazi, a WW2 German soldier, or even some Nazi-wannabe, again it is such an overused and lazy cliche to show how “evil” someone is.

I believe the body-swapping is already an intergral part of Bison’s story that cannot be omitted because of his SFA plot and relationship with Cammy and Ryu.

I’m trying to make the Nazi just a very minor part of Bison not a centered thing, but something more like Vandal Savage having to lived with multiple persona throughout the millennia but not a fake version of them. The Nazi part would be just for genetic advances of Bison.

[Baines]

Tbh if capcom did’nt wanted we to theory him as nazi, they made a bit a mistake making him a dictator in nazi uniform, with blondblueyed aryan looking super humans project, an hidden HQ in south america and a fucking hitler painting in his room* lol

I’ve never credited Capcom with amazing storytelling skills when it came to Street Fighter. By the end of Alpha, I would debate whether Capcom should even be credited with competent storytelling skills.

I believe the body-swapping is already an intergral part of Bison’s story that cannot be omitted because of his SFA plot and relationship with Cammy and Ryu.

That doesn’t require Bison to be some millennia old figure.

[bakfromon]

In the previous thread I said some parallels with Samurai Jack in after Kage’s reveal, while in this post I was currently watching Samurai Jack that time.

I remember you posting this and I wanted to post this video as it reminded me of the whole Ryu Kage situation too.

[The_Shakunetsu]

I’ve never credited Capcom with amazing storytelling skills when it came to Street Fighter. By the end of Alpha, I would debate whether Capcom should even be credited with competent storytelling skills.

Cestus and Yagami was right on that part for Bison having Nazi influences but Cestus was wrong about Capcom wanting us to make theory of him being a Nazi, because Capcom goal probably want Bison to be more ambiguous but has Nazi influences or using Nazi influences.

That doesn’t require Bison to be some millennia old figure.

Yes, but it can establish a him as more powerful figure in knowledge and wealth compare to the rest of the rest existing villains.