Damn him! Worst winner ever.
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He finally has fitting clothes! Hah, jokes aside, I…really am disappointed by this the more I look at it. Poor Birdie’s already starving for costumes and this is what we get? I was hoping for some flair. I really dig Guile’s Mission-ready look.
Man, I remember being so happy to see a Birdie player win over Akuma. I never thought I’d see that.
Now I’m actively rooting against Mena. I hope he gets quadruple-perfected in pools.
Why does Birdie’s new costume look like something he pulled last minute for a party 
Birdie: Nah, I’m gonna be late, gotta just put these on
I’m not bothered that the alt is “selfish”, that’s the point of win that chance and chose
IF was a good design it coul had “MenaRD BEST EVA” in giant letters and will have not bothered me at all
Problem is, it objectively suck dicks as character design
Capcom should just offer 5-10 good concepts and let the winner pick the one he like
Birdie got some sick sketches that never took form, all better than story alt, battle alt, halloween one and now this CPT crap
While at it, half OT Cestus Birdie for xmas LOL
Btw Necalli one was nonsense too, totally out of character
Guile one was the only good one
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I posted a buff suggestion list in general chat. Hardly an expert on the game but I think they honored the spirit of the character.
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That’s my issue. It’s not that it’s selfish. It’s just so bland especially when they never went with Elvis Suit Birdie, or casual Union Jack Bride, or even the CFN SF1 Birdie with the new coloured hair. There’s so many options that they could’ve done and mixed with any idea he had, but, yowza, it’s got no real flair.
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I feel that current Ryu is particularly bad by design because SFV is completely based on him being the middle-ground/starting design base of all other characters. This means that EVERYONE does something (if not more than one thing) better than he does. The entire cast is designed to get around his “fundamentals” because he’s the OG SF character and said fundamentals are the only thing he’s really got.
What’s worse is most competitive players (and casuals alike) recognize his move set and therefore it’s hard for him to surprise anybody and can fall easily to mind games and set-ups. So I feel like some of his S1 properties should return and I think Capcom will buff him+Juri.
Unrelated but the Birdie design in the bottom right should’ve been a costume for him.
@Darc_Requiem IDK bro i think talking about change characters it’s ever a double way
The pros way, that ask for boring stuff that will actually directly benefit the char in an intelligent way
The scrub way, that want get cool flashy stuff that being extras will eventually benefit the char
i can only embrace the 2nd way, any pretension about understand “balancement” shit will make me exactly like when i see peoples judge designs as if they understand shit about design lol
My scrub dream Ryu buffs 
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- stHP: make it special cancellable (like on VT1), also inside target combo. Force stand up on hit.
Also old CC animation
- stMK to be longer on forward
- HK Donkey Kick to look(animation)/work(bounce) as in SFxTK
- NEW NORMAL back+HP, give him dat SFxTK tag punch as vertical launcher/anti air, similar to Akuma’s
[/spoiler]
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Ryu wasn’t that awful in SFV because his S1 incarnation is doing better than average characters. So I don’t believe it is the game but it is the update to his character that change him to the worst.
I hope the mystery appeal of Q is kept preserve not gamble and risk for the sake of promoting and introducing a new character.
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Your wish has been granted. Plane wont even let them get to the pools to get quad perfected
these are pretty much Chinese fighting styles not use in Street Fighter use by other fighting game characters
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Baguazhang ( use by Ling Xiaoyu from Tekken.)
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Long Xi Quan ( the Northern style to this is used by Lei Wulong from Tekken)
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Piguaquan ( use by Ling Xiaoyu from Tekken)
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Xing Yi Quan ( use by Wang Jinrei from Tekken)
besides that there are dozens upon dozens of Chinese martial arts styles that aren’t use in street fighter . such as Wing Chun. which has not been using in any fighting game ever. the only movies it appears in are Ip Man and it’s sequels.
Even though Chun’ Li’s fighting style is list as Chinese Martial Arts. she doesn’t not represent every single style of Chinese marital arts. since they are dozens upon dozens of styles. she mostly uses Tai Chi. lumping multiple styles in and just calling them Chinese martial arts or Chinese Kung-Fu is kind of ignorant not to mention lazy.
it would be most more respectful if the Chinese marital arts styles where individually name in fighting games. cause just saying Chinese marital arts really doesn’t tell much.
Tbh chinese “Kung Fu” is not limited to Chun Li in SF, in various styles it got a decent presence through years
Chun Li - Tai Chi + other styles
Gen - Mantis & Crane styles + “Dim Mak”
Lee - Bajiquan + Drunken Fist (never seen ingame, just canon)
Yun - Bajiquan
Yang - Bajiquan and Snake style
Fang - Generic “Chinese Kempo” + scorpion style (from a kungfu movie lol)
Karin - Bajiquan + japstuff
Rufus - listed generic “kung Fu”, probably because he copied stuff he seen from various styles
Fei Long - Jet Kune Do, wich is a direct Win Chun/Kung Fu “spin off”
Xiauyu & Jianyu - 2 Dolls with weapon based kung fu
King Kobra - SF4 dropped concept, was supposed to use some style of Kung Fu + breakdance
Gen’s disciple - SFV dropped concept, was supposed to use Gen’s style
So it’s not like the saga ignored Kung Fu styles existence (even if there’s a bajiquan spamming), you just can’t have all in.
I will like 1 or max 2 new chinese style in an hypothetic new SF chapter, specially an iconic one.
Like Lee having Drunken style in SFV concepts made him interessing.
Or your typical bald orange-wearing shaolin monk, will be ok with a SF version of it
But overall i will like to see SF stick with try keep variety of nationalities as much as possible, including in fight styles
And to be totally honest i think SF styles list got waaay bigger holes than add #8 chinese style based char
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I don’t know a lot about martial arts, so it would be interesting to hear which styles are missing from SF and what they’re about.
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Here are some scans I found from the old CAP! Magazine. With the early issues, there was a section called “Ask Dr.Right (Light)”. This was a Q+A and had some nice lore info and O believe it’s where certain info first came about. I’m only posting translations for SF, they’re very strange, to say the least. (Transgender Eliza)
Summary
Q1: I heard a rumor that says Ken gets married to a transvestite. Is that true?
A1: Utterly false. I assure you, Eliza is all woman. She and Guile’s wife Julia are actually sisters, eventually making Ken Guile’s brother-in-law. Neither one knew about this when they fought each other, but I wonder if things might have been different if they had…?
(Was that really that big of a rumor in Japan that they had to address it 
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(This next one seems to be a case of “early installment weirdness” because the answer talks about how Ryu trains people at Gouken"s dojo 
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Q2: How does Ryu pay for his living expenses?
A2: Back when he was living in Japan, Ryu would teach students at his Master’s Dojo, and never had to worry over living expenses. But to pay for his recent warrior training abroad, he’s turned to betting on himself in street fights. That way he can make money all while training his body at the same time.
The next scan talks about Dhalsim’ skull necklace and he jokes about Dhalsim reminding him of HeatMan, nothing noteworthy but the one about Chun-Li is.
Summary
Q3: What are those things Chun Li wears on her wrists?
A3: I don’t know much about them, but they’re a kind of protective gear. They’re also very heavy, so they double as some important training equipment. That Chun Li, what an exceptional woman!!!
Credit goes to Kobun21 for his/her translations on their website: Reploid Research Lavatory (a joke based on the mistranslation from Megaman Xtreme 2)
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Missing right now (SFV) or never touched by SF?
Also it’s worth say that you have to consider the definition they chose to give for whatever reason
Like Abel clearly does russian Sambo (as tribute to a Sambo and MMA legend), but his style is listed as “MMA”
Though he does’nt do MMA but Sambo and wear a Sambo uniform, still for whatever reason (popularity i guess) they gone for MMA
Kolin is listed as Systema user, but does also a lot of russian Sambo stuff (wich fit the char origin) not present in Systema
In that case i give zero fucks about “definition” on the game profile, i consider Sambo rep satisfied and MMA rep not
In perspective of get national iconic or widely know styles some that came in my mind
WEST
-MMA (modern “american” version) <- in theory SF3 Tom does it
-Kickboxing (NOT american “full contact” shit we got with DeeJay)
-Greco-Roman wrestling
-Glima, scandinavian wrestling used by vikings
-Hopak, ukranian dance/martial art
-Fuckton of local “wrestling” traditional styles
-Freestyle (or folkstyle) american wrestling <- think G may do this, specially due the Lincoln thing
-Historical European Martial Arts - essentially medieval/renassaince armed or unarmed fighting*
*far from a stretch for SF lol, it even got fuckton of bare-hands techniques illustrated in ancient books. Ever thought it will be fun as fuck base for a Florentian Soccer “player” char
ASIA (not Japan/China)
- Krav Maga (israel military-based martial art) <- tbh this will look a lot like Laura’s BJJ
- Kalaripayattu (India, considered by some the FIRST martial art)
- Silat (indonesian/Malaysia martial art, famous for recent movies)
- Mongolian Wrestling
- Viet Vo Dao (highly acrobatic vietnamese martial art)
- Hapkido (corean mix of tkd and grappling techniques)
AFRICA
-Laamb (wrestling-boxing mix with religious-like “luck” factor added to it, most famous african fight sport)
-Dambe (strange type of “boxing” with only one fist super-reinforced with a cloth+rope, making it one hard blunt weapon, the free hand used for grabbing/block)
JAPAN & CHINA
-Aikido
-Judo <- even if Abel/Sambo grappling is Judo essentially
-Kendo
-Shaolin kung fu
-Drunken fist kung fu (again Lee canon does it in SFV, but was’nt an ingame DF user in SF1)
-Sanshou/Sanda (a “fight sport” version of chinese styles, involving both striking and grappling)
-Fuckton of other armed or unarmed kung fu styles wikipedia can offer endless list), i listed just Shaolin and DF as the ones imho most iconic still missing
PS: Capoeira not listed as they chosen to go to it’s african roots with Elena’s style
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This is fun one, make me think when in anime OAV he gave $ he won to that indian girl, even if in that case was Honda betting on him
Iirc in a manga he does the same in the USA
Essentially Ryu can win big af $$$, but tend to keep just what he need for his traveller life
^I think this artist worked on a manga featuring Daigo. There’s a lot of good fanart on his twitter
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@Cestus_II For Africa I’d add Tahtib (stick based art, some of Falke’s moves resemble it) and there’s “Raqs al-Assaya” which is the women’s version of Tahtib but is nowadays is more of a traditional dance in Egypt.
Another one is Zamaqtal which is very recent and is more of a MMA thing and practiced in parts of North Africa. It’d be a good thing to pull a Gen and make a character that can alternate between “perpendicular” and “parallel” stances.
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