Zangief General Thread: Our Russian Skies Are Protected

Can you combo any normals or anything once it hits? Or only spd?

I think it’s dependent on how close they were when you v reversal. From my sets last night I’ve found that ex spd was more reliable if I had a jump read in that situation and they were just far away enough that st.hk seemed likely to miss

Backdash, maybe an instant air ex spd?

It doesn’t combo as far as I know, it just resets the situation.

No combos, it is only plus three and with say CR.jab at 4 frame startup you can see it doesn’t work as a combo. You’re pretty far for most normals anyway. Jab spd seems like a good choice right now until it stops working (as people see it more and expect it). Also consider that if they block the v-reversal you are now -2.

Technically CA should work but i think the pushback is to far. can someone test in the corner? i am not home to test.

CA’s range outside of combos is pretty meh, so it doesn’t work on anyone even if they get v-reversal’d in the corner

I’ve seen a video where Gief combos into CA from v-reversaling Cammy’s EX Cannon Strike
Also this was pretty sick: (V-skill flex into V-trigger)
2:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUITg-Uip4&feature=youtu.be&t=148

I’ll give it a whirl when I hop on shortly. I suspect it would work in a corner crossup block situation as the v reversal would push them into the corner.

Yep just tried testing this on lights, mediums, whatever. Doesn’t work. Just a step out of range.

I didn’t know you can combo the flex into V trigger activation, that’s actually huge.

The armor on RBG isn’t active until frame 3, so using it on wake-up against someone who is doing a lot of meaty pressure is a bad idea

Also, the feeling of when you are in VT, pressuring somebody on wakeup and use Gief’s parry to eat a DP is just too amazing. This may be my favorite version of Gief ever, so fun to use :slight_smile:

Yes! Also, you can do this without v trigger on any DP save for Ken’s ex since that is 6 hits. Hit and hold parry, it absorbs two hits, then either move forward to absorb one more or release parry and immediately parry the potential third hit.

Gief’s V game will make or break this character for you. There is a lot of potential here.

Interesting, I actually didn’t know that. Doing it in VT to something lile Ex SBK or Rashid’s DP just feels so godlike; you can literally sense the fear in the opponent after that.

What is giefs best wake up options? Don’t say blocking, I’m not into that. tnx in advance

There is no easy way to say this, you simply can’t win with that mentality. If you’re waking up it is because you made an error and now have to deal with a mixup. You need to defend against hits (maybe meaty or crossup) or a throw. He has no legit reversals on wakeup. Spd is too slow and lariat is questionable. Block it out, tech it out. V reversal if you can and reset the situation. You need to value defense in this game to win. From solid fundamental defense will opportunity arise.

CA is the only invincible move he has. Other than that, I would say mix up between block + V Reversal, which gets you out of meaties (gotta be careful if they start doing jab, cause they are trying to bait the VR and punish with throw), and backdash + SPD, which blows up throws.

thanks, great advice

yeah man fuck blocking ! let’s just mash lariat like the good old SF4 times, why should I use my brain tho?

Very happy the HitBox viewer Mod for PC is out. Been in training mode looking at all of Gief’s hitboxes among other characters. This should help improve my footsie game.

The one thing I really miss from SF4 is his j.hp. You could tag people from 3/4ths of the screen with that thing. The new one he has now feels gimpy.

I can’t really hit confirm into a 720 outside of f.mk, so I just dabble with Gief for now. He is indeed more fun in V than IV, but he’s still a grappler at the end of the day.