what are you talking about, his V-trigger lasts a crazy amount of time, easily one of the longest lasting if not the longest (don’t know how bison’s is anymore)
you can spend it to do vacuums, but if you don’t immediately spend it it goes forever.
I’m thinking Capcom’s logic was they figured Gief has the most health in the game and they didn’t want him having V Trigger all over the place when his health stacks on with the V Gauge building from crush counters and his V Skill.
UltraChen talking more about their feelings about Gief. They used the words Good and Fun when describing Gief. I didn’t think it was possible either.
Wait… so from this video, Ultradavid said Capcom made it so that cr.mpX2 cannot combo into EX spd as it will push the opponent too far away now? And that cr.lkX2 cannot even be comboed into EX spd either (we can now only do cr.lkX2 into super)?
So the only way to hit confirm into EX spd is to jump in and cr.lk into EX spd?
James and David both saying gief is a lot of fun and really hyping him up to be a strong character. I want to believe them. Third beta cant come soon enough.
what the fuck ARE YOU talking about, when you hit with the v-trigger it’s gone, if you hold it longer then 1,5sec it’s gone, the timer is just the time where you can use the trigger.
stop talking shit if you don’t know how the v-trigger works or don’t even played him for at least 1time.
Actually, what you refer to as “the timer” is the Vtrigger. The time window through which Gief gets that red hue all over him is his Vtrigger, not the spinning move he gets to do when he activated and while it lasts.
So, I don’t really know what you’re goin’ on about, but just as said in the post you quoted (“You can spend it to do vacuums, but if you don’t…”), it does last for a rather long time, unless you opt to use it all up with the spinning vacuum move.
While in Vtrigger Gief also gets infinite hits of armor on his Vskill, and I think we’re still unsure if anything else changes, in terms of frame data and damage/stun values for his move. He doesn’t just get access to a new move, and you don’t need to waste it all away in activations.
The infinity armor thing is actually not “that good” and his goofy lariat is the only thing that helps him to get close to the opponent, taking longer to use it is not helping and the duration is still the same, they can remove the infinity armor but let him use the goofy lariat more andd let him combo into it and out of it.
But hey, Hugo with 50% damage and Zangief skin is also not that bad huh?
okay, except you were wrong. it, like most of the 3-bar v-triggers lasts a huge amount of time. that’s specifically what the guy was talking about soooooo
i’m not even sure why you’re so upset, did you seriously expect that Zangief would activate v-trigger and then do 5, 6, 10 vacuums. it’s a long ranged vacuum on a grappler. the fact that you can do it multiple times out of one activation was a total pleasant surprise.
lol I swear, I have absolutely no frickin’ idea why there are people so adamant on pointing out there is no green hand. Did you love the move that much? Was it super hot and super fun in your mind, to have a rotating backhand green-powered punch to the crotch in Gief’s moveset?
It’s gone. A lot of other games (really the majority of games that had Gief in the playable cast) had greenhand, it just suck donkey balls, and yet Gief had no extra tools to offset that or make him more fun. Now you have a really long range, hard-hitting, safe footsies tool with armor, an air SPD, comboable EX throws and super, a character specific parry and a tool that pulls your opponents in.
It just amazes that someone can miss fuckin’ greenhand, when they get all of these new tools to play with. I don’t get it.
Yup, this thread is basically 2 groups of people, those who lack the ability for abstract thought, all they can see is Zangief minus greenhand = How am I gonna get in herp derp.
The rest of us (a minority considering how stupid this thread has become) see all the other tools zangief has in V and can picture (in our heads, wow!) how they can be used to get in. Hell gief having an air SPD that does huge damage creates an entirely new metagame that the mouth breathers on this thread can’t imagine lol.
Totally agree with you on GH but tbh i miss atomic suplex
It will give to Gief some grappling variety aside occasional RBG
Or at least give some serious dmg buff to his normal throws… iirc they do strange low dmg
It will still not have AS dmg/positioning, but if back throw get decent dmg and maybe cover a lil longer distance it can become some sort of substitute