I will use him anyway, not everyone is a tier whore
You speak as if “being strong” is only thing that matter. If that’s the case fine, just pick the super top tier you play better.
I will not like a supah top tier Gief with fireballs and teleports… even if it make him “stronger”
I like these new tools as are good AND in line with the char, but i will like Gief keep some classic traits like huge power/health, is part of the identity of the character as gameplay archetype
See a Gief that don’t overpower other chars (while keep being slower AS HE SHOULD BE) is just wierd
And again i don’t see why a SFV Gief with Gief-style dmg will be broken or OP
You have to factor in the idea that combo damage hasnt been optimized since there probably are combos people don’t know about. Especially with V trigger cancels.
Plus the stun system works differently from IV. You can have someone nearing death just by filling their stun bar. A new psychological effect that IV didn’t really have.
Here’s a tl;dr for those who don’t want to read the past 11 pages:
[details=Spoiler]Zangief is ass and needs buffs!
I think it’s too soon to say and they gave him some new tools.
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I also wanted to fuck that guy’s asshole when I saw that shit
Actually Zangief dont looks interesting at all.
He remains a boring character which same as previous street fighter setting;
who has limited options and variation against opponents
I guess such boring character will still be fucked by those traditional counter-picks like akuma and sagat
That’s his s.HP done at close range. It’s not a defined close normal like Ryu’s close s.HK in SFIV (which is now b/f+HK in SFV). It’s just a standard poke just like every other poke now. It’s obviously not an overhead since it looks nothing like one. It can be charged up to gain armor, but that’s it.
I was pretty pessimistic about Zangief in SFxT and he was awesome in the pre-patched version.
That said, Capcom have treated the Red Cyclone sort of badly in the SF4 patches for the past couple of years so I’m not full of confidence, either.
Yea this troll registered a forum account a few days ago just to make whiny posts about zangief, without knowing the first thing about SFV (no close normals).
I encourage everyone to ignore him, he brings nothing to the table but tears and weaksauce troll bait.
buff at least all his grab damage. every grab is way too low while no range and slow as hell. a medium into ex spd that deals 15% dmg is just bad for a pure grappler like Zangief. he has 1100health and R.Mika has 1000 maybe? that makes it even more stupid.
if hes not going to get major combos…i’m just hoping this guy has like some of the best normals in game…from the look of it though it looks like he got alot of things that beat things clean.
Look at 12:00. That’s just from a crossup body splash into crouching strong then EX SPD. Again, this isn’t SF4 where he confirms from three crouching jabs into EX green hand into red focus setups. And his buttons look pretty good to boot.
I’ve never heard of people who associated combos with Gief so much until SFIV. He never was a big combo character. He’s not even a big combo character in Marvel other than like Xmen vs SF LOL. Good old poking and grabbing Gief looks fun to me. Especially now that he can KOF combo into grab? Grabs everywhere.
The damage and stun on that jump in combo was pretty nasty. Crush Counter s.HP to SPD looks like it hurts too.