my feelings have been on point. I was first to say Dudley would not be top tier in SSF4, when Justin Wong and a few other pros thought he was “OP”
Nobody said Hugo was “unplayable”? i’m talking SFxT where ClakeyD was dominated pre-release. And he was “prematurely” nerfed when he did’nt need a nerf. People thought he was broken untill they found out… he wasnt. And somebody doing good with a low-mid tier for counter matchups don’t make a character instantly top tier. Especially when they usually don’t even stick with said character and only pick them during “finals” as a counterpick as some kind of secret sauce.
So we suppose to wait 10 years for Zangief to be “solid” when people find some tech that makes some kind of unblockables, or makes impossible things possible due to some wierd mechanic?
I see what i see, and you see what you see. But i calls it as i see it and haven’t been wrong yet. There’s always a the die-hard fan who gets dismissive and ignores the obvious and go with the safety net that is, wait till the game is out" or wait 1"0 years untill tech is discovered". that is what i think is a “joke”
What WE see and KNOW so far is right there. There’s more evidence to the contrary that you defenders are unwilling to say. You can’t rely on some wait for the “undiscovered” tech that makes him instantly a top tier. This is what everything right here, right now. Based on the game engine, the mechanics, speed of the game and the fact many of us have played the beta and know what type of gameplay they are shooting for. And how the current beta characters are compared to what we the new ones we seen. Zangief looks one of the weakest. In fact, i didn’t see Combofiend do anything new that we don’t already know…heck he did’nt even combo to that EXSPD we hear so much about.
And any character can “discover” something that makes them competitive, raise up from solid to top… to outright broken. But we wont know untill years later and from his current state compared to the cast. He has nothing someone else doesn’t have who is already better at it. And if he gets a couple “obvious” buffs later on. That is proof enough that, they agree too. And i think they will.
That one guy seems dead set on believing UltraDavid does not like this Gief but then a link is posted to a giant article by him saying all these great things about Gief lol.
I like how he touched on the “chess match” sort of play he’ll be going back to in SFV. He will be really fun to play as. Can’t wait.
Why don’t you play SF2 forever then?
Zangief was one of the unique grapplers with his banishing flat and some other tools, he doesn’t have one single combo without meter and even the combos with meter are very bad. why are you defending Capcom so hard? or is it just something like:
“Everything was better in the old days, when I was young, we don’t needed combos, we just needed grabs and grabs into grab, I don’t want combos, I want tradition!”
Need to talk to Ultra David about that. It’s his quote. He’s an old man too though. Used to play lots of 3S in tournament on the east coast back in the days. Good times.
I’m not defending Capcom, I’m defending actually creating a meta with the character and the game before really buckling down on anything. Not just knee jerk one or 2 days of beta play and complain. Why do that?
He gets a lot of new neutral stuff which I think is more fun than jab jab jab short ex hand gief with some grabs. More stuff to do is more fun than more combos IMO.
Honestly I don’t trust UltraDavid for what he said, exSPD can be linked into combo
I watched almost ALL SFV zangief video, but I cant see even 1 time exSPD combo
On USF4 pre-release period, UltraDavid said and confirm:
"Red focus attack can be linked from regular non-ex green hand"
I was faked by his “confirmation” and disappointed so hard
You have to take anything on the internet with a grain of salt, but other people on the internet have reported that he can combo into EX spd so you should be able to have some faith here.
I think you and a lot of people miss the point. Green Hand is a staple for Gief, yes, but you and other people keep bringing up combos this, combos that without even understanding that previous iterations of Gief didn’t need combos to be scary. Seriously, check out Gunze Gief and then tell me that Gief needs combos to be scary. Now you’ll probably say, “But that was SF2! This is SF5!” Yeah, but as many people are saying, SF5 is showing a lot of throwback features and gameplay styles to SF2. So it’s not something to be ignored. It’s not about “everything being better in the old days”. It’s about Gief resembling an older version of himself that is just as scary, if not scarier, than any other version of Gief we’ve seen.
It’s his prerogative if he needs video evidence, just all the stars align to it being comboable so shouldn’t be a problem. If he has to be skeptical until a video comes out, he has the right to. So be it.
To play a little devil’s advocate, SPD damage was also ass in SFA3 and that is one of the best versions of Gief.
Something I am worried is that if his Borscht Dinamite is as good as advertised at catching airborne opponents, then characters will stay grounded throwing pokes all day. This may sound like good old times to some people until you remember that this are the SFIV levels of damage and the strongest normals are slower and unsafer than ever. What does this leaves? The “Snake Eyes vs Fuudo” or “Snake Eyes vs EG” kind of matches of walking back and forth and land a st. MP or cr. LP every 4 seconds. Maybe hype when it’s Snake Eyes and EVO top8, boring as fuck any other time.
That is my impression. Anyone here that has played him and can chime in?
Any footage of Gief vs Birdie? From what we know about Birdie with his great normals, zoning and high damage I imagine that being a nightmare matchup for Gief.
face it, birdie has better design, tools and footsies than zangief
He can also easily combo into his CA to do MASSIVE damage
while gief can’t do shit comparing with him
