Damn that SPD hardly does any damage.
Many of you guys say exSPD can be combo in, but I cant even find just 1 video proof exSPD can be linked
Is it really REAL and CONFIRMED? May I have just 1 video to confirm this? :s
Zangief just came out like a week ago. Gonna be hard to find any footage of optimal stuff or even basic new stuff like combo into EX spd. Donât worry, with time youâll see more stuff.
Considering Giefs combo game with his normals isnât vast, I would imagine they have allowed EX spd to be his main knockdown ender after normals.
assuming he has the range to combo into it after a decent confirm if they donât push back too far.
So his BNB would be most likely be Headbutt (ch?) ~ standing short xx Ex SPD.
and c.short, standing short, xx EX SPD.
Iâm incline to believe hop kick may be linkable like Hugos on meaty so thereâs that possibility.
Then of coarse thereâs the obvious jump ins.
good luck in 5!
Hmm, Ultradavid just tweeted: âalso, @Snake_Eyez_ said gief feels goodâ
hey⌠psssst⌠tier lists have nothing to do with how good a character feels or plays on the âfirst dayâ. itâs kind of the opposite of that, in fact!
reminder that super early on there were literally people who thought gief was a top tier character in vanilla SF4 because he was easy to dominate with âon their first dayâ
The damage is retardedly low. Capcom has got to buff it back to E3 build levels, 10-15% off of Giefâs SPD is dumb
feels more like a hugo ehâŚhm. Might use him after all till andore/birdy.
come to think of it andore and roxy would be dope.
in a game where everybody is supposed to inflict fuckton of dmg
One expect Gief to have a good Power/Health advantage, like it was in vanilla but i just donât see it
Not even vs girls, who usually got lower hp
meanwhile his speed handicap seem still there, i donât understand
Ok i get now spd can be more common⌠so what? Everybody else deal great dmg too and he donât have combos
I think this fits better, R.Mika is my Zangief now.
you just proved my point. grapplers always feel strong early due to high priorities, ridiculous stamina, and high damage normals and special on day 1. gief and hugo for example⌠they then get exposed, and barely have new tech on the character side rather than mechanics side discovered compared to other more mobile characters. The fact that gief feels slower and not as strong on day 1 compared to the entire cast makes me feel he will drop even more when people âfigureâ him out.
There is nothing Birdie or R.Mika dont do better than gief imoâŚand they feel really strong in their current state. Even after people figure them out and make them easier match up experience they will be in a better state after the fact. Gief will get exposed more because heâs not looking that strong </imo)
Ultradavid said that Zangief is lacking in tools and is underwhelming in many things lol, if he says different just 10 hours later then itâs more like âhey david pls no negative feedback at official capcom streams, kk thx.â
no meterless combo-ender (I still think that ex spd doesnât combo since I tried it out but ok, live in your dream world)
no gap closer and/or too slow - green hand anyone?
no grab range, I mean like, you have to be inside the enemy to grab them.
no damage compared to EVERY single character in the game.
how can they design Zangief like a pussy in a game where the damage is so damn high, why can R.Mika who is 5times faster with 5times better combos deal much more damage at the same time?
even Capcomunity, the Zangief hater source number 1 says that Zangief is ass.
âooh itâs too early to tell, Iâm a Capcom d1ck rider pls stahpâ guess what? Birdie Day1 had fucking high damage combos and you could see instantly that he is a strong character, same with Mika,Bipson and many more.
Yeah, no meterless combo enders⌠okay i get they want a proper grappler⌠but his neutral grab game appears weak, no damage, no range? i thought that would be a given. You have to be inside to do his grabs, just like ever other grappler in the game already.
Can you not special cancel into his lariat or something?
Also, Zangief IS âmissingâ something - he doesnât have his green hand. Of course heâs going to feel different without it.
That said, that doesnât automatically make him âbadâ. People who are playing him most likely are trying to play him like SF4 Gief, and itâs not working, so heâs automatically âbadâ.
Thatâs not some universal magic rule, there are plenty of grapplers that buck that trend. Even Hugo started out with people saying he was borderline unplayable or the worst character in the game, and now heâs kind of stabilized as a strong character thatâs easy to counterpick - a good secondary character. T. Hawk spent like, a decade, as literally the worst character in ST, and then people started to explore him and made him a solid character.
Even SF4 Zangief plays completely differently in Ultra than people played him in Vanilla. The idea that you can make any kind of pronouncement about whether a character (still in development!) is âlow tierâ based on âfeelingsâ is a joke.
The reason the SPD looks like it doesnât do alot of damage is because youâre seeing Light SPD. Heavy SPD does a lot of damage but has pathetic range (Naturally).
Lol, hitconfirm xx 720p bitches! Whhhaaaattttt?!
How much dmg does each spd, do? Also super?