Been forever since I checked in here but just wanted to say hey to everyone still putting in that work. I quit ages ago but I still miss the competition of playing SF. Too bad 5 ruined it completely for me. Good luck ya’ll.
Maybe it’s because I’m GREEN behind the ears, but I’m just dying to get my HANDS on this balance update.
I think it’s legit, either in the game now or plans to be in the balance patch. The lariat buff can’t be it.
Same, what else would they do apart from either give him back EX SPD combos or make Lariat combo from miles away making it straight up busted
I would be really suprised if they actually gave Gief greenhand back. I cant see Capcom taking the time and effort to add a new move(animate it, frame data etc) when it would be easier and more effective to just balance what he already he has.
Im sure theirs gonna be more than just the lariat buff(which is really nice btw) but also hes being indirectly buffed alot by all those nerfs to upper tier characters and DPs. Gief is gonna be in a good place imo as long as they dont nerf him 
Where’s the changelist for Gief? Haven’t seen anything on him yet
Just the lariat buff so far. I’m ok with just that, but would be happier if dash was a bit faster too. 25 frame dash sucks.
Lariat buff would be enough. Zangief’s major problem is the lack of a reliable hit confirm combo, and being able to combo vs crouching after two crouch jabs and a stand short is huge.
Def is. Still want green hand, tho. His armor just isn’t enough sometimes to get in. Green hand can at least avoid fireballs while giving him a hit box moving forward.
IF the grey health thing is true its a significant nerf to Gief… Grey health needs its own value table like health and stun so universally changing it doesn’t flat out destroy certain characters who depend on it.
I assume they halve the damage taken by his v-skill and/or armored moves, or changed his v-skill altogether, cause otherwise it is useless
just the lariat would have helped in S1, but it seems they buffed Dhalsim significantly so Gief is waaay worse now, at least for that particular matchup
assuming they bring back green hand…dunno. this still makes his v-skill much more dangerous to use so basically they’d give him one tool to make another less good
I’d rather have the tools he has to be useful rather than add another one that may or may not be useful and make everything mediocre
at least lariat sounds better so there’s hope
I’d like his low fierce to be a cc. That would make people less jump happy.
That looks terrible
Lol damn, as if Gief wasn’t dead enough as is. Hopefully that shit doesn’t make it into the final build, or they take away or significantly reduce grey damage on v skill.
I think not having GH was just an overreaction to how dumb EX GH into red focus was in USF4, but that was an issue with focus, not GH itself. I’ll be kind of surprised (and very disappointed) if he doesn’t get it back. The lariat buff is nice, but GH would just put him over the top and make it feel like you’re pkaying Gief again. At least imho
So is the only confirmed buffs so far jabx3 into lariat and lariat causes neutral tech only knockdown?
Watching the video spd followups look the same… st hk looks faster but no way to say for sure. Also recovery on knee looked faster too. I haven’t seen anything from anyone who was there though, this was just from watching one grainy match
That’s quite strong tbh…
Is it cr lp x3 into lariat or is it cr lp x2 st lk lariat?
Either way it’s a sizable buff