Zangief General Thread: Our Russian Skies Are Protected

Yeah that will teach us not to complain to Capcom! -_-

maybe next patch EXSPD can combo from lp or lk again lol
dream dream i don’t need wake up

Combo ex spd or invincible ex spd would be awesome. Really would, but it is not likely. What I’m hoping for is being able to combo something like 2x cr.jabs to lariat. All of the other grapplers can combo their lights to a special. Mika has peach, Alex has chop, and Laura has elbow. Lariat can only damn near point blank. I think this is the single biggest factor holding him back, as our whole game would be different if we could convert a lariat from our godly cr.jab.

Buff Gief’s frames a bit. Quicken his dash and forward jump. Fix air ex spd so it doesn’t get stuffed by air normals.

Being able to combo into non activated v trigger off mediums would be nice. Give his mediums more use

This is fair. Because you still need some kind of confirm.

But you will be able to do devastating o/s pokes into VT.

Your footsies will become untouchable with this stuff.

Definitely, Godlike and broken. Perhaps nerf the VT as a trade off.

2 Bar VT with only 2 vaccuums instead of 3, and lasting 20 seconds instead of 30 seconds.

Essentially a weaker VT, but more effective VT

Godlike and broken ? u can see ken o/s pokes into VT and safe on block i think fair if zangief can do same

You need Headbutt hit confirms to combo into a medium attack. And giving Zangief a one-off option to gain a huge benefit off of whiff punishes once you’ve worked to earn your three bars of v-gauge isn’t really broken either. If the v-trigger is 3 bars, then it needs to be pretty game changing or else it’s just a lot of build-up for a relatively weak option.

At this point, giving him a mp/mk link into v-trigger is hardly game breaking. Currently, there’s no way to actually use it during neutral unless the opponent has a fireball, everything else is a guess into level 2 to make it ā€œsafeā€. It’s actually strange that you need to have v-trigger active before gaining the neutral game benefits, such as making whiff punishes a major threat. I feel like this is just a side effect of nerfing Zangief during the beta phase and pushing him out with the rest of the rushed content, instead of gaining more feedback and pushing out a more complete product.

Now, jab combos into ex spd would be broken as fuck. Not even nerfing the damage/stun of ex spd would be enough to balance that, sf4 green hand Zangief all over again.

I am so sick of flex hit to CA whiffing. There is no reason for this to happen beside there must be some kind of bug.

So who can tell me here how have I air spd Ryus shoryuken before he takes of the ground and I also air spd guiles flash kick before it takes of the ground. I could pull it of on guile 99% of the time on neutral jump not on a jump in though. I have no idea on timing or conditions. Any one have this info??? Also cammys srk.

Hitbox hurtbox manipulation. Your air spd outranges their attack - horizontally. You can hurt them, but they can’t touch you. Only happens side on. If they are directly below you, you die. No attack boxes below for the boscht dynamute.

Is there any video of this?

Thanks for the response by the way.

No dude, there is no Holly Grail for this. Youtube is your friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66Vsgbwbi4

I’m having a hard time dealing with the dhalsim matchup in general. When I get in (after taking some hefty damage) I can’t really seem to deal with teleport. MP maybe? Really slippery players are pretty much impossible to catch. Any advice?

If you can read him teleporting backwards from you, do a heavy RBG. It grabs him during his recovery (which is very long). That matchup sucks, but made easier by trying to counter poke limbs (st.hk beats st.mp, sweep beats st.mk). I try to move forward against him with f.mk as it will sometimes beat or trade his limb. When blocking his limb nonsense, throw in a flex to minimize pushback.

what about Instant air teleport? They usually hit a button before they land and pretty much beats a lot of the options, especially rbg. Most of the videos I see regarding this all have him doing regular ground teleport, which pretty much no one does

I just jab them that stretchy fucker to death and counter poke. You’ll eventually catch him. And use flex as suggested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDB4UFFGwmU

1.48.00

another strategy for fight cammy

not win kazunoko but concept very good

i call Corner tactic lol

lariats
pokes
light kicks
kills as follows
EVERYONE!!!
THEY WANNA SPACE, THATS COOL
POKE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM!!!
AND MIX IT UP A BIT
V-TRIGGER, PULL THEM IN, DO RESET COMBOS
*EXAMPLE
heavy punch, v-trigger, jabx2 + cr.lk,v-trigger again
(you will still have enough to juggle into EX Air grab)
or Just pull them in and ex SPD
bating while doing this works wonders
trust me, this works when done calmly

also gief headbutt is a frame trap when used with st.lp
#godlikeheadbutt