Zangief General Thread: Our Russian Skies Are Protected

hopefully something happens in the april update

I hate to say it, but Capcom isn’t going to buff gief. Even though its practically common knowledge that he’s the worst character, the fact that in any given match someone can point out what he could’ve done differently (regardless of how practical), will make a combofiend led balance team to say “he’s fine.” The fallacy in this is that with his damage output, you can technically always say “there was something he could’ve done.” This character is inherently flawed in SF5. I’ve tried to figure out what they could do to fix him and any change that I can think of either really doesn’t change anything, or makes him way too good with no in between. Given that situation, they’ll pretty much always err on the side of “not good enough.”

One thing that I do find funny though, is that even if he had greenhand, assuming that the ex version had no invulnerability (or at least fireball only invulnerability), i still don’t think it would be that good. With a 5 frame start up, no invulnerability spd, going popping a fireball with greenhand + its recovery + 5 frames for spd doesn’t seem like it would ever work.

This character needs a complete rework to be viable.

Well, sounds like Guile is gonna be a fun matchup…

It would be easy to make him viable without making him op.
Buff walkspeed to Laura level
Cr mp and st mk 6 frames
All feirce attacks 9 frames
Extend and lower lariat hit box
Lariat hit invincible startup for 6 frames.
Combo exspd
Vskill does half white life it does now.
Vtrigger anti airs.

There a character that is good but not broken.

There’s no way in hell they’re giving him that many buffs, but i agree, even with that he still wouldn’t be “great”

with this buffs i can win evo.

if they dont want to buff gief then nerf nash!!! and sim

lol

Let’s just give him a one hit KO button while we’re at it.

I am not saying he gets any of this. Just that this would make him complete but not stupid.
He would be mid tier and would solve almost all bad Matchups without giving him tools to dominate any one character. Plus he would be a lot more fun.

Mesenkomaha, we just played a few moments ago. Your gief is very good, you shouldn’t be in silver at all, I’m surprised you aren’t gold

Thanks that was an awesome set. Glad to run into one of you top class Gief players. I hate waiting so long between matches so I almost always just play battle lounge. At the same time though, I really want that gold tag lol

Also, just got rage quit on three times in a row. Such annoying shit. 11 win ultra silver fraud Nash lol. Speaking of which, every other opponent is Nash. Flavor of the month? Either way, horrible matchup lol

The interval between finding matches gives me time to relax and think about what I need to do for future fights

The rqs can be annoying sometimes but I generally ignore them. Online doesn’t mean anything, it’s just an estimation of skill.

Excellent way to think about it. I just hit super silver, 1000 points gained in about 90 minutes despite four rage quitters so I suppose it is time to grind out that gold rank.

The rage quits are much worse in gold. People are so scared of dropping back into silver (I guess) so I see it so much more now. I don’t care anymore tbh because all I wanted was that trophy and tag lol

I’m shallow like that.

are the servers down or something? playing earlier all the fights i had was with ryu

I think what really hurt is that Snake and Stupendous play different Giefs and still wasn’t enough to beat Nash.

I do laugh that people think fix his Lariat to hit low will fix everything…

Realistically buffs I would want.
Make his SPD’s have hit inv. I would like to have at least a get off me move that when I use a meter I’m not being simply jabbed out of it.

Make it so that both Lariat (also fix it to where he can combo into it easier. and s.HK hit crouchers.

Make it so that he actually has practicable combos. Like combo into s.mp

CC on shoulder

Combo into ex SPD.

I think what really hurts Gief is no German suplex now that he doesn’t have a move that can get your opponent to the corner it really hurts.

Here’s my question. They basically took everything that made him viable away in this game. Why?

I had great matches today with Marsh_D_Teach and Kanon42. Those guys are legit! Now I need to get my hands on Chief, Filldoh, Paramisery, and Evansgambit 8)

Add me if you want some Gief practice, CFN/PSN is Mesenkomaha

Cuz scrubs don’t like playing against gief so they made him worse. That’s my theory

are the servers down or something? playing earlier all the fights i had was with ryu

what country are you in?