Zangief General Thread: Our Russian Skies Are Protected

[filldoh]

What do you do against Alex’s V Trigger clothesline? He’s got one hit of armor on it so if you try to hit him you’re toast, it charges fast and then becomes unblockable. I have no idea what to do against it aside from jumping which still seems to hit me. Maybe the timing is just hard but at least if I get hit in the air I don’t eat a free command grab afterwards.

Parry. Free spd

[Crusader]

Would parry work? I thought he recovered from the hit too fast and could power bomb you before your SPD but I never tested this.

I always just ex running bear grab it.

[Kerplunk]

What do you do against Alex’s V Trigger clothesline? He’s got one hit of armor on it so if you try to hit him you’re toast, it charges fast and then becomes unblockable. I have no idea what to do against it aside from jumping which still seems to hit me. Maybe the timing is just hard but at least if I get hit in the air I don’t eat a free command grab afterwards.

EX Siberian Express?

[VADtoys]

Sometimes the answer is so obvious that I overlook it completely. Thanks guys, now to find an Alex online. to practise on.

[andoru]

c.lp trigger will connect if you already have trigger activated…lol

trigger then super is guaranteed if they get hit with trigger…lol

if it was blocked it could still connect as long as they dont jump or they just try to attempt c.lp

lol

If your v trigger being blocked
U are in huge negative frame which can be punished

thats right but maybe only 2/10 people would react to it or even know that

so far only a platinum was able to poke me out of it after trigger

[Gemini_hk]

c.lp trigger will connect if you already have trigger activated…lol

trigger then super is guaranteed if they get hit with trigger…lol

if it was blocked it could still connect as long as they dont jump or they just try to attempt c.lp

lol

If your v trigger being blocked
U are in huge negative frame which can be punished

thats right but maybe only 2/10 people would react to it or even know that

so far only a platinum was able to poke me out of it after trigger

Not really
In fact u can only rely this unreliable tools on some stupid guys who dont read the frame data

[andoru]

question is will they know if you’re going to hit them with a trigger or just pull em in

its a risk but as a gief player risks are included everytime

[chief713]

There’s no risk or guess on their part at all. If they hold down-back and press jab right as they get pulled in, if you do Lvl 1 the jab will come out and you’ll get punished but if you do Lvl 2 or above, they’ll block. What you’re doing isn’t solid, even though it works on ppl that don’t know any better.

[scratchback]

There’s no risk or guess on their part at all. If they hold down-back and press jab right as they get pulled in, if you do Lvl 1 the jab will come out and you’ll get punished but if you do Lvl 2 or above, they’ll block. What you’re doing isn’t solid, even though it works on ppl that don’t know any better.

Exactly. Level 1 v-trigger should be safe imo. The fact that they can just stuff it with jab is a joke. Also some players will just react to your activation and just jump in for a massive combo. That’s happen to me a bunch.

[Mesenkomaha]

I think there are four or five safe ways of activating v-trigger without wasting it. V-flex to VT, fish st.hp to VT, VT on projectile reaction (this one is getting more difficult as people wise up, getting risky), tap to activate VT and fish with cr.lp/cr.lk then pull in, or the newly “discovered” c.mp meaty to VT.

[Kerplunk]

I think by far the best usage of vtrigger is in a meaty situation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ECHy8Xu2bsM

I particularly like to do it after st LP (anti air). When they get “sucked” you have more or less 10+ frames of advantage. Enough for a counter hit headbutt.

By the way, I’m using more often MP SPD. It gives you a better distance for meaties.

[andoru]

I think by far the best usage of vtrigger is in a meaty situation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ECHy8Xu2bsM

I particularly like to do it after st LP (anti air). When they get “sucked” you have more or less 10+ frames of advantage. Enough for a counter hit headbutt.

By the way, I’m using more often MP SPD. It gives you a better distance for meaties.

how do you time a meaty of an anti air s.lp

[Kerplunk]

I think by far the best usage of vtrigger is in a meaty situation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ECHy8Xu2bsM

I particularly like to do it after st LP (anti air). When they get “sucked” you have more or less 10+ frames of advantage. Enough for a counter hit headbutt.

By the way, I’m using more often MP SPD. It gives you a better distance for meaties.

how do you time a meaty of an anti air s.lp

Try it after st LP. You have plenty of time. They’ll land just in the vtrigger.

[Gemini_hk]

The footsie war against chun is hard but actually fightable
Chun’s most threaten move is shp
But gief’s clp beats her shp in close/close mid range
Smk beats in mid range
Shp beats in long range
Lets try it.
Smk is very important to eat chuns annoying footsies including her annoying chk

It is unexpected lariat does very well against chun’s jumping qcfk
You really has much more time than you expected to lariat her

[Kerplunk]

The footsie war against chun is hard but actually fightable
Chun’s most threaten move is shp
But gief’s clp beats her shp in close/close mid range
Smk beats in mid range
Shp beats in long range
Lets try it.
Smk is very important to eat chuns annoying footsies including her annoying chk

It is unexpected lariat does very well against chun’s jumping qcfk
You really has much more time than you expected to lariat her

I use the headbutt against most of her kicks at the right distance and it stops her momentum. St MP is a good poke when you have her on the corner.

[chief713]

I think there are four or five safe ways of activating v-trigger without wasting it. V-flex to VT, fish st.hp to VT, VT on projectile reaction (this one is getting more difficult as people wise up, getting risky), tap to activate VT and fish with cr.lp/cr.lk then pull in, or the newly “discovered” c.mp meaty to VT.

Don’t forget about st.HK. Also, counterhit st.MK combos into VT but I haven’t really explored setups.

[rcaido]

Yeah so i finally got Gold, all the frustration paid off. Live & die w/gief!

[Crusader]

Grats. I’m jealous. I have a lot of respect for anyone getting Gief above gold. I keep getting close but I just can’t get there. I just have so much trouble with keep away style. Anyone that hides behind a wall of fireballs gives me a really hard time. When I watch Snake Eyez stream he makes it look so easy to get past fireballs and anti-air. I wish I knew how he does it.

[Bebedero_Chivo]

This is GatLike! Look at V-Trigger hitbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njT1tPcNuwc

[DankratosBR]

I got gold with gief yersteday