Was looking at frames of the standing MK at max range. And could never set it up to work with V-Trigger
Some genius figured it out already!
Must be to do with V-Trigger allowed to super cancel into CA towards the end of activation.
Tired of pesky Sims porting on wakeup. Try this.
Or this
Thanks for the tech kanon, a nice addition to our arsenal
if its +0 on block can you cancel s.lk to SPD since the opponent doesnt have block stun?
Cancels may still whiff, st.lk is best used as a tick into SPD on hit or block. Even on counter hit, it will not cause the spd to whiff like c.lk or c.lp.
a c.lp is +3 on block but a ryu can shoryuken you out of it if you follow it up with another c.lp how the hell does this happen
im using this a reference or is this inaccurate
You are not doing it fast enough. You need to chain it.
Because c.lp, c.lp is not a true block string. Since it is only +3 on block, with a 4 frame startup, opponents have 1 frame to input a command. If they’re mashing an invincible reversal in that one frame it will hit you. Despite the fact that Ryu mp shoryuken has a 4 frame startup, those frames are invincible.
Does Zangief even have chains?
if c.lp is not a block string then we’re out of options
You can’t confirm into anything meaningful, so c.lp not being a block string doesn’t really matter. It just serves to push you out of close range.
Borscht Dynamite catches backdashes, neutral jumps and back jumps. So, if you combine that with the +2 of MP/HP/EX you can throw an instant Borscht to deal with any players who want to run away from you. Here are the optimal set ups for the whole cast:
MP SPD - dash - LP Borscht Dynamite
HP SPD - dash - MP Borscht Dynamite
EX SPD - dash - HP Borscht Dynamite
Works on:
Alex
Dhalsim
Necalli (trigger off)
Rashid
Ryu
F.A.N.G
Vega
Laura
Ken
Cammy
Guile
Karin
Zangief and Birdie can be hit with almost anything. However, these are the optimal punishes:
LP SPD - dash - LP Borscht Dynamite (yeah it works)
MP SPD - dash - MP Borscht Dynamite
HP SPD - dash - HP Borscht Dynamite
EX SPD - dash - HP Borscht Dynamite
Karin has an extra combination. She’s the only one that can be caught with:
MP SPD - dash - MP Borscht Dynamite
The following set ups are character specific. They can’t be hit with any of the previous set ups:
R. Mika:
HP SPD - dash - LP Borscht Dynamite
EX SPD - dash - MP Borscht Dynamite
Chun Li:
HP SPD - Dash - MP Borscht Dynamite (use LP if the timing is a problem)
EX SPD - Dash - MP Borscht Dynamite
Necalli (trigger on), M. Bison and Nash:
HP SPD - LP Borscht Dynamite
EX SPD - MP Borscht Dynamite
You can replace any Borscht Dynamite for the EX version, so you can get a better oki. These are my raw findings, so I’ll try to make a video so it can be understand more easily. Also, you can use LP Borscht in most cases, but it’s the least damaging one (180) compared to MP/EX (200) and HP (220).
Kerplunk posted some good details. I also did a little write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/4ggoac/stuff_you_can_do_as_zangief_after_spd/
He’s covered most of it. The only extra thing is the way you can hedge whether they quick rise or not after HP SPD. Which you can’t really do after MP SPD.
Great breakdowns. I dont use Air SPD as much as i should. Need to get these in to my game just to scare opponent from backdashing.
Is this still a thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNp1eNjQPM
I tried but i couldnt done any of these
As far as i’m aware it was taken out
Has anyone come up with frame perfect meatie button patterns or are we still going by feel?
I’m going by feel but sometimes it’d be great to have a pattern to ensure the meatie will hit
I don’t know if I’m comfortable with guessing Borscht Dynamites. I’m okay with guessing U2: Sibberian Blizzard because of the reward.
When I’m on the money, I feel like a fucking genius, like I’ve won a noble peace prize.
But when I miss, I’m a flying fool, soaring through the air like that bike in E.T - The Extra Terrestrial
Same thing goes for guessing HP SPD. But if I must play the hand I’ve been dealt.
Then shuffle up and deal! 'cause I came here to gamble =) Let the party begin!!!
Finally I can combo lp into ca consistently. I’m so happy that I gotta share it with my comrades. The key is to input 540 motion precisely instead of churn like crazy. I do 4123698741236 crouching or 1236987412367 if I’m standing. Clean input is the key. I practiced my 540 input first, make sure I could do it every time using a whiffed hp as buffer, then I tried to link with cr.lp/lk, it worked very consistently.
hi my fellows russian, im searching for meaties after spd and throw? did we find any setups yet?