Zangief Combo/Tech Thread: Tips and tricks from the mother land!

I noticed this as well, my friend was in shock, notorious for the wakeup CA :slight_smile:

Love u Evan
You are always a pro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eXgvmBjnlY

Guys, do you comboing the v-reversal into CA?
This is quite unstable technique to use as the CA often whiffed
However, in one situation, this can be quite stable.

When you are into corner and being pressured, but you have a full CA bar
Opponents sure love to jump attack you in order to avoid your CA but they can still keep pressuring you;
but close range v-reversal their jumping attack. and then combo into CA seems to be quite stable after my testing in training mode,
it seems not whiffing on this situation

Try it out =)

V-reversal needs to push back less before that’s worth-while, imo.

Hi man, are you a japanese player?
こんにちは

I don’t need to be a Japanese player to see that a defensive, corner specific set-up, that only works in some instances isn’t reliable in high pressure situations. If V-reversal pushed opponents within CA range anywhere on screen by default, it could be useful. Not trying to be an ass, just pointing that out.

Otherwise, just try to avoid those corner situations in the first place. Opponents neutral jumping on your wake-up to avoid CA provide an AA opportunity to reverse momentum, it’s a gamble. Back-dashing on your wake-up to avoid CA is safer, but similar.

You don’t have to cancel it you can link it.

Lol, I think he asked because of your signature.

I made some list of giefs oki setups I found so far. Please, feel free to check, update, correct or whatever else :slight_smile:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/103G66qOv7zEUdzQzAqSM7keniRb2fmrFGCmrneBvrfE/pubhtml

just found this out meaty c.mp c.lp then follow up with a f.mk which will whiff then SPD

worked a like charm earlier

What do you mean? Cancel what? You mean the CA from LP or LK? I don’t think it matters to me whether it’s a cancel or a link, I just can’t seem to do the CA fast enough.
Or am I misunderstanding what you’re saying?

I’ve headbutt killed a Ryu on his wake-up CA before. It just traded but he didn’t have the health to survive it so the CA did very little damage to me.

Oh. I guess I thought there was more to it than that or something. So how did he beat Gief’s CA with his own? And how does that work with other grab CAs?
I’ve spent quite some time in training mode trying to CA R.Mika’s CA on reaction because of how she moves forward when doing it but her CA always won.

That also brings me to another topic: Option Selects. I’ve seen quite a few people mention Zangief option selects but I have not seen a decent guide for them. Do those exist?

If you link, you have more time to input and finish the command of the CA. Example: If you link, you have the frames of startup+active+recovery of the current move to do the CA, if you cancel, you only have the frames of startup+active of that current move. More time to finish the command, makes it easier? Doesn’t it?

Checking the frame data says, R. Mika’s CA is 3 frame startup + 2 frames active. It’s not a zero frame startup grab, so you can always jump after the super pause.
Compare that to Big Z’s CA which is 1 frame startup + 2 frames active, you can’t jump after the pause.

As with invincibility, its all to do with timing and overlapping windows of invincibility. R Mika’s CA 5 frames of complete invincibility is more than Zangief’s 3 frames etc. So when the invincibility frames wear off, to the victor goes the spoils! But then you can also manipulate pre-jump frames, cancel into CA on the 5th pre-jump frame to give you more un-throwable frames to work with.

I don’t know really. I thought they wanted to keep everyone honest.

The only option select I have found is with r.mika, she can s.fp and os a super if you v reversal. No other true option selects that I know of. They removed parry/throw tech os from ryu iirc.

Via @Slaynman

https://youtu.be/AVLdBro1w5I

Some examples of why our V skill is so good.

https://youtu.be/o4LdRA8wawg

https://youtu.be/UWxsa5abMqs

https://youtu.be/szTUPhwz-lE

Is that the video of parrying the v reversal because it doesn’t look like a os, just v skill on reaction. If he is doing some input where v skill comes out only if they v reversal then yeah, it’s a os. Otherwise it’s just reacting.

v skill will be useful if you can properly read your opponent it can block 2 attacks and another 2 when you start walking. if only they replace it with a parry like ryu hehehehe

Thats an os
Slaynman is the ryu and the recording is gief and only vskills on v reversals and cr.lp on block or hit

Some examples of why the end users is so good? Perhaps.

V-Skill isn’t unique to countering all those setups. For example, Ken’s mashing could be countered by “block” which was created in 1987?

That Ken was switched on with his Zangief knowledge, knowing to shoryuken the reset. How ever did you manage to re-counter that?

Got it. Block more. Will do.