As much of a quality whore that I am, at fullscreen there doesn’t seem to be much of a difference in quality degradation in the match video, only noticeably in the crowd shot. 1mbps vs full VBR isn’t exactly night or day here so for the difference in size, 1mbps would probably be best. I also vote for offset over centered.
I also vote 1mbps and off set, having crowd shot block main match is annoying.
- thanks
50min is bit long. I didn’t know it was that long! I’d go with cutting it in sectors, offset, and VBR! Haha. Reminds me of those old GG/3S SBO tourney matches on DVD, but I think they had each player cropped underneath their character, yet the match was still visible. Must bust out le old DVD to verify.
I haven’t had a chance to really demo any of the examples you’ve shown, Zach, but I trust you won’t make this look like the Clock/Dark Prince matches that made it so hard to see what was actually happening in-game.
That shit drove me insane.
I’ve tried to make it easy to see both in the same visual frame, which is why I went with the offset primary video. The demos show you exactly the video you will expect to see.
I also plan on making a version of it available without the picture-in-picture version. So there will be about 1GB of footage released from this (420MB full “Mike Ross stylee” PiP, 330(?)MB full, 140MB “William Goldman stylee” GPV).
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I have a folder with ~40-50GB of the source and editing footage I’ve used to make this. None of you will care and it won’t help anything, but – it certainly is interesting.
1mbps really doesn’t look any different to me. It would be easier for viewing too.
Was there ever any footage of Yipes vs. Wong? The EVO finals?
You mean the Yipes vs Wong match that will be on the DVD? 
2 weeks…
haha
this video has been killing slowly for the
past months. i hope i can make it
:wasted:
I have a final version preview available as a one-time private URL that I’ll give out to people individually if they promise to provide feedback. It’s a 420MB file, though. I think it’s done, but I don’t want people to download 4TB from my server and then I realize I did something stupid and have to reencode it.
oh yeah, I was confused. I forgot that stuff is on DVD.
Preppy, i PMed you, but SRk is being screwy with me so I’m not sure if it went through.
I’m down for the preview. GIMME! GIMME!
PHUk NI33gas hatin on my mvc2 mix. It take balls to bump sounds of music in the hood ni33ga.
This video is too strong. SRK is not ready. preppy has taken it to the next level. Match 6 is like WHOA.
Wow, I can honestly say that after watching that any time Justin doesn’t win evo it’s a complete fluke. Dude is the greatest of all time. G.O.D. in his blood. Nothing more to really say. The sad part is i was at evo but i was told they wouldn’t play till after the team tourney so i missed it :(. Ahh well at least i got to watch it now and it was worth the waite.
Preppy…the video turned out much better then expected. I remember you said the match recording wasn’t run non stop and the crowd shot was so i figured it would look janky at parts but you did a really good job. I’m impressed. My only complaint is that it’s not in Blue Ray/HD Dvd quality so i can see the sweat glands of the people sitting 5 rows back.
you should split the file into a bunch of little ones and use a different codec for each one.
I would LOVE to see it preppy, but thats at your discretion. I do Promise to give feed back if you do let me though.
Thanks.
HQ version: I would have to split it up. I may do this at some point. But the VBR 3mbps version was 1.3GB , which is probably way too much. I really do have ~40-60GB of raw and edited footage sitting around in my hard drive. I’ll likely do something with all that before I delete it.
Match vs Crowd shot (these are my encoding notes, really, and probably not interesting to most people)
[details=Spoiler]I recaptured both tapes as uncompressed DV-AVI. The “match” tape was already indexed correctly per match. For the “crowd” tape, I watched that vaguely in comparison to the match tape and split at around when it seemed like the match was beginning. Then I exported out each individual clip into DV-AVI from Movie Maker (basic tool, but very functional).
Then I imported everything into Premiere. Using a three video track layout, I put the match on track one and the crowd on track two. I turned off the position LOCK and applied the Video Preset:PIP:LR 25% effect to the crowd track’s video. I then used the right video preview window to move the match video up left until the game video was touching the up and left sides, then moved it back a couple pixels so that camera shaking wouldn’t cause clipping. Then I increased the size of the crowd video in that preview, and recentered it, so it clipped the rightmost corner of the match (you should never see the right super bar count) but not really any important areas.
That being done, I watched through the match and pushed the second crowd track into alignment. (This is why turning off Lock is important.) This was a little difficult, but the easiest way to do this is by celebratory moments, mashing on supers, and the end of the match (when they take their hands off the controls). It should generally be really close but not 100% precise. Hopefully you don’t notice.
Then I turned back on LOCK, added the crowd shot again to track three. I terminated track two’s crowd video at the end of the match video shot (track one), turned off audio on track two (just in case I didn’t have frame perfect matching), and trimmed track three (which was added to begin/end at the same time as track two pre-trim) so that was clipped to exactly where track two ended. Thus as soon as the match ends, it pops to fullscreen crowd - you’re actually switching from track one match/track two crowd PIP to track three crowd fullscreen. Then open a new sequence and repeat the process again for the next fifteen matches. :lol:
The two notable defects: 1) black space in the videos. Somebody later suggested I fill that with a score or graphic or something. Not a bad idea, but I’m not compelled to fix it. :bluu: 2) The fullscreen crowd shot will overlap chronologically with the match shot, hopefully you don’t notice/care. That is, since I simply split the crowd shot into chunks, when the subsequent match begins and you don’t see the PIP crowd, that means you’ve already seen those crowd moments in the fullscreen shot. Sorry about that. Shh, don’t notice.
So: most of the heavy lifting (hard work) was done in Premiere Pro thanks to Adobe’s 30 day free trial. All of the easy stuff was done in Movie Maker. I don’t think I would want to use Premiere just by itself, but that may be my own limitations. Adobe definitely makes great appliations/tools. Except for Flash, but that’s just me. [/details]
Anyways, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate all of it. :tup:
i think with a smaller compressed file it will be easier to download cuz once this gets out people download like crazy not knowing other people are doing the same which takes up bandwidth
Quality is ok i guess. I think the masses want to see the match and what went down. Good stuff preppy
wow…even though wong lost, these matches make him even more legendary…
I really don’t think there is anything wrong with the Low Quality version. You can still clearly see all the action perfectly - just not at 60 fps. Making the camera off-center to leave room for the crowd cam was perfect.
Thanks Preppy!!!