Dear Microsoft:
I just don’t understand how anybody could even be considering an Xbone after all the BS shenanigans M$ is STILL trying to pull…
Every Xbox One that gets sold is someone voting for consumer slavery-- Unless the policies at Microsoft change(which they won’t) there is absolutely NO GAME worth selling a part of my soul(and my options as a consumer) for.
I don’t get some of you guys… you can get virtually the same types of experiences on PS4… FOR CHEAPER… WITH MORE OPTIONS… WITHOUT BEING TREATED LIKE A CRACK WHORE.
I like you.
Naw I’d say Xbox has a strong line up; for me at least. But I’ll be getting a PS4 this time next year =/
a lil better…but def still reads like “microsoft still doesnt care about black people”
Didn’t mean to come at the side of you like that if you’re neutral, Unreallystic. I just honestly don’t see how anybody could feel that the games on the XBONE could be worth throwing away their consumer rights. You literally do not own ANYTHING you purchase for that console. LIVE servers go down on day one of the console launch and everybody’s machine is a fucking brick. Yeah, that’s a pretty extreme scenario, but it’s one that just puts things into perspective. I don’t care how good the games are, if I don’t own them, if they don’t belong to me, and can be blocked/unblocked at the company’s whim, then FUCK that company.
Vernon Davis = Microsoft
Ffxv and kh3 arent ps4 exclusive. Good for ms.
that may help save them in the upcoming consol wars. some interesting lookin new ips…aloooot of new ips for ms plus some returners andddd kh/versus.
Yeah, it’s definitely good news after a pretty harsh night for ms. I enjoy the ms fallout, but I still hope ms succeeds in some form because I’m a huge believer in the benefits of competition.
Not having square being monogamous with ps4 is a good thing.
Damn you Microsoft…STOP making me agree with this man. -_-
So… is this the new Xbox topic?
You are pretty late for the party but welcome. I honestly need your valuable input atm on this matter.
I’m looking at the politics like this… I look at PC gaming where the market is dominated by STEAM. I look at music, where the market place is dominated by iTunes and similar ilk. I’ve been saying for years that I dislike ‘digital everything’, but people kept clamoring saying they didn’t need the physical copies and they just take up space. So we get to new consoles, where M$ is basically saying “It’s 100% all digital, the disc just let you buy it in the store instead of DLing so many gigs of games for those with 3G/4G connections”, and people are up in arms all of a sudden. Frankly the majority of people who are anti-M$ ‘policies’ and claiming we are falling for a trap if we get it, are already getting to the party late. The shift in terms of ownership happend when people felt digital downloads was the way of the future. How is the XBone ANY different from buying stuff off iTunes or Steam? I can’t just resell that stuff? I can put my physical copies of music up on eBay or Amazon, but the new Action Bronson I bought off amazon’s digital distro last night…I’m STUCK with it if I don’t like (I do though 
). I beat Portal 1 on Steam a few months ago. I can’t really do anything else with it…I can’t give it to my sister to play shrug.
I am NOT saying ‘yay!’ with the direction things are going, call it a ‘told you so’ from all the years I’ve been telling people I want to have physical mediums so that no one can take it away.
As for the whole timed exclusive bit people keep talking about, stop it slime. No one rushed out and bought a Wii U because it had Batman Arkham Asylum (or vice versa). People buy games the first couple of months they are out. After that its relegated to ‘Why should I spend $60 to buy it for this system, when its already dropped to $30 on this other system?’. I can look at the CoD series. Compare the number of people on 360 and PS3 that you can think of. More than likely the people with it on the PS3, only play their PS3 or only have a PS3. Everyone else gets them for the 360. Is it because it runs better…no. I don’t think it does…it might, but I dunno. But maybe the fact that the large map packs hit the 360 WAY in advance than on the PS3. It’s a friggin AFTER thought when its announced on the PS3. Hell, closer to home - there are people like myself who don’t buy HD Remakes because we already own the same stuff, I got Darkstalkers on my PSP, why am I going to drop $15 or whatever to buy it again? Whomever release the content first, gets the majority of the money - superior product or not.
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From what I’ve been told about Steam, if you lose your internet connection, the games (the ones not blocked by DRM) can be played in offline mode. That’s the key difference there. Then there are also Steam sales, where games that are normally mad expensive can be bought for under $20. I seriously, seriously doubt that Microsoft is going to be as eager to please gamers by dropping prices on their games to ridiculous lows the way Steam does. And to compare to MP3s, those can at least be played on multiple devices without any hoops to jump through. If I buy an mp3 album on Amazon, I can transfer that shit to my MP3 player, my console, or to my wife’s laptop via USB. There’s another advantage the XBONE doesn’t have.
I’ve never been one for a full on digital future. It leaves you at the mercy of the distributor. But when I’m shelling out $60+ dollars for something, I feel that it should belong to me. MS doesn’t agree with me on that front, therefore I will never purchase an XBONE. DD can be done without being draconian about it.
None of those services boot you for not checking in.
lets be clear here. this is the xbox one
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100 dollars more then ps4
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about 30 percent less powerful then the ps4
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only allows you to play the game offline for a total of 24 hours before DEMANDING you get online or you cannot use it as a gaming console anymore
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if you log into your profile with another xbox one to play, you HAVE to check in online once an hour or you can no longer use it as a gaming console anymore
5)you can only let your friend borrow a game ONE TIME for up to 30 DAYS, and then no more playing for your friend
6)YOU HAVE TO INSTALL THE GAMES
7)YOU HAVE TO NOT ONLY INSTALL THE GAME, BUT A COPY HAS TO BE CREATED IN THE CLOUD
8)publishers have the right to not allow you to even let your friend borrow your game. (im pretty sure they have certain abilities to lock stuff now, but microsoft seems to be promoting the culture more with xbox one)
SOOOOOO why is anyone going to buy this again? lol. for halo? when was the last good halo? for gears of war? ha. for killer instinct? cmon son. microsofts exclusives arent that strong, and a majority of the other games will drop for both consoles.
currently if you have reserved an xbox one and are hype for it, you are the ultimate moron consumer and should be ashamed of yourself.
i hope you dont have a shitty internet provider too. have fun uploading ALL OF YOUR GAMES to the cloud, and also having to install them. oh, and you better hope your internet is consistent and you dont experience frequent outages with your isp, because that would suck to not be able to play your 500 dollar console and 60 dollar game BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE FUCKING INTERNET. hahaha
shame too, cause i love my xbox 360. proud of this sleek black motherfucker, but damn microsoft fucked up.
node goes out, no internet for a week says the isp. 500 dollar console and all its game are rendered useless and you basically just have a 500 dollar dvd/blu ray player. BAAHAHAHA
Unreal, I see where you’re coming from on the digital thing, BUT Microsoft is still selling the games on discs… If I buy I music CD/Blu-ray, I OWN that motherfucker… If I want to give to my friend, re-sell it, or take it out back for some skeet shooting, I am well within my right.
What M$ is trying to do is change it to where its similar to buying a PC title, but with less options–PC games can be modded, upgraded, changed by the masses… whereas Xbone crap is static until/if the various third-parties and M$ decide to come down from Mount Olympus and grace me with their divine touch.
Also, the reason everyone moved to MP3s is because the model changed to accommodate the market-- People got tired of paying upwards of $20 for a music CD because of the greedy ass RIAA, and the music industry was bleeding out money everywhere. Apple and others stepped in, made some deals, and BAM, new albums $10 bucks a pop and individual songs for a dollar, and whilst you need internet to purchase them, once you do, they are yours forever in perpetuity without a need to connect every 24 hours ‘just to make sure.’
And I can still sell my iPod/Sansa w/the songs I bought still on it and I can buy a new one and still re-download the songs I PAID FOR, they don’t just magically ‘disappear’ because I changed devices/loaned my friend access to my account.
Yeah and you don’t get booted from XBone for losing internet.
I’mma keep it 100. Last year, I spent the entire year, living in a trailer with no internet connection (extra money from working remote). It SUCKED to not have internet. But that was a weird ass circumstance. What irked me was Diablo being ALWAYS online or no play.
But really? How many people do you know DON’T have internet, whether it be DSL, broadband, or even smartphone (you can check in via smartphone apparently)? It’s a WAY overstated problem, by people who it doens’t even apply to. If you have a shitty connection, so what, its hop online for a second, you could be ASLEEP when it does it…and its done. You odn’t need internet for 24 hours. It’s not ‘always online’. The issue is being way overblown fro mthe reality of the situation. The people wh oare willing to drop $500 for a vide ogame console are going to fuggin have internet ‘once a day’.
In terms of sales, M$ does have sales, they also drop prices. When Steam has its monster sales, its on games that are like 2+ years old. I mean this Xmas I got all the Serious Sam stuff for like $20, but that stuff ran its course like two years prior. I got Portal 1 & 2 for like $7, both of which had run their course. The other bargin bin type stuff is indie stuff that was up for $20 to START (I got Torchlight for like half off @ $10 I think). I’m not going to pretend like M$ is going to be giving away shit, but I stand by my analogy.
MP3s are a slightly different beast in that you can copy them (now, before Apple had DRM too) - I’ll admit ti that, though Apple still only wants to transfer your license to like 5 devices or something like that. But the concept is still pretty much the same, you just have the ability to store your content elsewhere (though tada you can do that with the XBone too using an external harddrive).
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EDIT - and people aren’t even admitting to WHY M$ wants consoles to check in. People be thieven shit. If I let someone borrow my car, I’m checking in on them. I’m just saying. (kept 100)
No. You’re thinking about it is wrong. M$ isn’t selling you the game on disc. They are preventing you from having to download the entire thing. These games get big and all of us don’t want to DL a 7 gig game before we can play it. The disc will help alleviate that. But all it is is the information, that’s why you have ot log in and activate the game on your account, THAT’S when you truly get the game. If the game so to speak were still o nthe disc, you would need t use the disc more than once. As it stands the disc are one time use.
True story when you buy a CD or a Blu-Ray you actually don’t own as much of the right as you think you do, but that’s a different topic. Legally speaking you aren’t allowed to just give it to your friend. But even I have to admit those are asshole laws.
Where do you get the whole modded/upgraded talk from? That’s pretty game dependent these days when it comes to PC, alot of games will ban your ass for doing ANYTHING (see Diablo or CoD or WoW etc). M$ pretty much made a fancy Steambox that can install from disc.
As for the Mp3 thing, it was to accommodate the market because people started stealing. Let’s cut the crap, since 00+ people just became fukkin thieves with regards to stuff on the computer, wehter it be movies, music, software, or games. It sucked ot be into software because everyone just stole your shit. It’s so bad now that when I bought Reason 7, I got one ‘internet’ license, and every other device has to have a ‘dongle’ plugged in (I got Balance instead, but its still pretty much a dongle). Was music overpriced, yeah. The wrong people were getting fat from it - so I don’t completely disagree, but if we are gonna talk history, we got to be accurate about it. Piracy has lead us to where we are now. It’s not greed from M$. People bought the first XBox JUST to hack that shit. People bought the 360 and hacked that shit too. They KNOW people are going to hack the new one, so this is their defense from people who are happy to steal from them.
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Again I feel you on some of your points, Unreal, but ultimately I feel that I must disagree strongly with supporting Microsoft in any kind of way unless they change their policies. Yes, piracy is problem, but in NO WAY is it so bad as to institute the Orwellian-like philosophy that M$ is taking.
I’ve said this in several debates about the ‘evils’ of piracy, *“The best way to combat piracy is to create a product that engages and enriches the experience of the purchaser.” *
In other words, MAKE YOUR PRODUCT SO GOOD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE YOU THEIR MONEY-
Earn the consumer’s loyalty, don’t demand it.
Yes, there will be some dregs that will steal and pirate, but those slugs were gonna(and will find a way to still do so, no matter how hard you try) do that anyway. All Microsoft’s policies do is punish the paying consumer harder than the actual criminals.
Also, I greatly detest being told what I can and cannot do, ESPECIALLY so when it comes to shit I put down money for. Microsoft will NEVER AGAIN see a dime from me so long as I can help if they refuse to adhere to what the consumer demands.