A.
I totally understand your point, it doesn’t affect me per say, as I’m quite the hoarder by nature (with respect to games). But I can see how it would affect people who do sell their games, and the physical media market also. The GAME franchise in the UK is pretty much on it’s last legs, no accounting information handed to credit agencies in the last 2 years, credit limit is suspended, and it’s a similar picture with regards to a lot of physical media outlets within the UK, not just game retailers with (exception of supermarkets).
With this scenario in mind, it paints the picture of the costs publishers/developers have to face.
-Loss of potential profit due to used games market.
-Poor performance of retailers, most likely involves inability to pay credit balance.
-Cost of overheads (staff wages, business utility bills, tax etc)
-Lack of interest in unfamiliar branding. (Everything except Call of Duty and other major brands)
-Damages via piracy
-Server costs
-Costs to host DLC on Xbox marketplace
-Likeness/Licensing/trademark fee’s.
There’s been so many studio closures in the last 2-3 years and I think Microsoft’s decision is a great business strategy, just not a very popular one.
B.
Was just a personal wish on my behalf, but with today’s credit/tax nature, it’s not going to happen.
It gives them too much power if you ask me. They would have full control of the market so instead of supply and pricing being reflective of demand, they just set the price at whatever they want. They get to decide how much a used game costs, instead of the market, the thing that has always decided the price of a product through supply and demand, they just cut that out and decide pricing all on their own.
But the pricing and supply of games are dictated by what the publishers sell the games to the retailers at, and whether they can still make profit after paying the fee. Publishers will also decrease the cost to a supplier, if the product doesn’t sell. So already, the publishers hold all of the cards. They could charge a ridiculous price per item to the retailer, forcing the prices to inflate massively, as the retailer wont sell at a loss.
Or the retailer will choose not to purchase those products putting pressure on the publisher to price more reasonably cuz they know the product wont sell at that price.
Indeed, but if there is demand, they could push it. How many people pay £49.99 (or around that) every year for Call of Duty? They could easily push a yearly price inflation, possibly by £5. and throw in some “special content” which in reality, costs around £1.00 to make/ship. And the casual market will follow, as it’s “cool”. Which could be deemed justifiable with the high volume of production.
But the situation is, with the introduction of used game fee’s, eventually used games popularity could wane, thus making new games higher priority. If publishers are making more from sales, the price will decrease. It’s common practice.
What about in a house where you have friends/family? Lets say my brother and I are in a family that isnt rich enough to have multiple XBoners in the house. We just got one. Now I go to my friends house to play games, and so we sit around forever adding my account to his console, then install a full game to his hdd, then patch it up…wow, now I gotta go home. Oh, and whoever is at my actual house, better not want to play XBoner, because I am using the profile at my friends house so we can play a game of Madden.
I doubt it’s that smart. The current Kinect can be fooled by pictures of people, and anybodies voice. I’ve heard nothing to support that this won’t.
Seriously, that Kinect is on some serious HAL 9000 shit. Recognizing voices and faces? Make sure not to get punched in the face while owning a XBOX Uno, or else the system won’t be able to recognize your face and then prep you for elimination. Also, don’t go around catching the flu, less you want to end up without a voice and unable to activate your XBOX.
(I keed, the console will probably have its’ own power button…RIGHT?)
I believe some Samsung TVs already have that voice recognition tech? How does that usually work out?
lol some of you are making it sound like the Xbox One cannot operate without the kinect. I’m sure you can disable it like you can with the original kinect, so tournaments won’t be an issue. Also think about disabled gamers, people who have difficulty moving their limbs or have speech impediments, I’m 99.99% sure MS would never make it this way.
Anyone remember the PSP Go essentially firing shots at the used game market by being download games only and how well games stores pushed it?
Remember how it pretty much dissapeared from shelves altogether long before the Vita came out?
Does anyone know anyone who actually owns a PSP Go?
After some thought I see this bs going down the same way, I mean the casuals are ill informed and may not know or care about all the bs Microsoft are pulling but games stores should care about these blatent shots being fired and if shit isn’t getting pushed by the games stores surely that will be a factor on whether people pick it up or not.
Every other industry has to deal with a 2nd hand market: books, movies, cars, clothes, toys etc. Why do game publishers all of a sudden feel like they are being cheated out on the used games market after raking in millions in profit?
Only in the games industry would people defend against losing their consumer rights.
well it’s rather simple really, despite all their propaganda about “entitled gamers” the reality is that the only group truly acting entitled in gaming are the corporations, they feel entitled to our money with minimal effort, they feel entitled to all the second hand game sales just as much as they feel entitled for us to buy their new crap regardless of how many features the consumer vehemently hates.
all i can say for the one so far is i hope their turn to the frat market pays off for them, tv sports and cod isn’t exactly what i’m looking for in a console.
They can say whatever they want about how “false” any reports of a used game fee are, but the fact of the matter is that the way they have the system set up essentially requires a fee.
Think about it. I buy CoDGhosts* and I install it on my XBone. Then, I bring that game to my friend’s house and install it on his XBone. Then I give him the disk so he can take it to his brother’s house and install it on HIS XBone. That’s three copies for the price of one? It’s great that we’ll all be able to play together, but I don’t see how this could possibly work without there being some fee. And at what point is the installation limit reached? Can I just take one for the team and buy a game at full price and pay it forward to the entire state of Washington?
how about the console not run without the disc regardless?
done!
if a disc is useless, they why are they giving us a disc?!?!
it doesn’t make sense.
don’t make me pay some fcuking fee
if we want a PC, we can get a PC.
BUT real talk. i play console because i just want to sit and play.
holy fcuk they made this sh1t so technical because they just want to take dat gamestop money.
its so stupid.
in small cities, you cannot even rent games anymore.
you have to literally buy the game if no one else have it.
and now you can’t even do that.
i fucking worked my ass off to buy a game.
and its MY game. i already worked those hours to give them money to buy their product.
if i buy it, its MY game.
and i have the right to pass my game to my friend to enjoy too.
they made game distribution and just exposure of variety of games down the fuckin toilet.
fuck you xbox.
you fucking money robbing dick suckin bandit. AHHAHAHAH
hey bro? you wanna listen to my new daft punk album in your car?
i’ll lend you my disc, but you gotta pay through itunes 10 dollars to listen to the songs though.
how about my blu ray movies?
you wanna see it? register online and pay 5$ and then enjoy
yeah don’t worry, i already paid full retail price and its MY disc.
but for you, nah man.
you gotta pay, thats steeeealing.
edit:
should we be mad at xbox and capcom and all this shit they do to us?
or should we blame ourselves?..
thinking about it.
this sh1t happens cause no matter what, people will give them money.
i don’t blame them anymore. i actually think they’re smart now.
Wow, shit just gets worse and worse, even the TV,TV,TV side of this console is fucked, I mean come the hell on people been watching movies with friends and family since the freaking VHS/Betamax and these fools are so fucking greedy that they want to crack down on that as well as the used games market.
This is some crazy bullshit right there that PS4 or WiiU are looking really fucking attractive right now, and we know jack all about one and the other has no games!
Seriously if someone had told me that there’d be such a massive shitstorm around the new Xbox last week, I would have laughed at all the console wars fucktards comparing polygon counts and processors along with “whose release titles suck less”, what the fuck happened?
(Oh yes, M$ announced pure distilled anti-consumer bullshit in a VHS sized packet)
