I remember when I thought the increase to hitstun would KO X-23’s damage and that I’d have to solely rely on resets.
…AHAHAHAHAHA.
I honestly do believe RR is retarded with Drones(though a lotta chars become silly with Drones.) Once you sick Drones on them, it’s like an open invitation to fuck them up. Instant overheads, tri-jump attack j.L with Rocket Skates or j.S during Skates to intentionally whiff a jumping attack then go low, dancing around them with Rocket Skates, setting up traps, setting up oki, it goes on.
The best part is RR can cover assist calls well with Pendulum and also has the added benefit of smacking other people’s assists and if it hits the point char, that’s a free combo.
it all depends now I think. you can either just outright kill somebody in a meter positive one bar combo (vs. pixies anyway), or you can go for resets. one way a character is down… the other way you stand a really good chance of building your bars for a silent kill on their anchor or even their second char if you do it right. its real nice to have the option.
on the note of resets I don’t think this is news but imo X-23 does way better reseting off tech rolls as opposed to air resets. throw mixups are too weak these days especially since X-23 can’t do OS block/air throw because I guess she’d be broken if she could combo from both air throws.
anyway that last setup I showed with the Wesker into neck slicer, ankle slicer is pretty dirty. it is weak in the vid because I just do dive kick but you dash back, then jump forward into d+H for the most ambiguous crossup of all time. converting the combo off d+H can be tricky from that height if you can’t get Talon Attack to cancel, or if you hit after Centurion Rush. but if Rush hits… s.L into dead char all day. doing 500k+ before a reset is just too tasty. I need to test more but I’m pretty sure with the right spacing even if they roll back into the corner you are still in there with frame advantage off the Talon Attack
X-23’s doing large meterless damage with those combos(like 700+) and building up large amounts of meter in the process, so yeah, in your team’s case, it’s definitely worth not using meter and go for set-ups on their wake-up.
And I agree, I think air resets aren’t that hot. X-23 doesn’t get that much mileage from throws and for left-right mix-ups from aerial resets, you’d have to cut your combos short for less damage when you could just finish the combo for more damage and go for oki.
I just don’t like how most of her combos now rely on all assist characters especially if you wanna do high damage now. Why couldn’t she be high damage and godlike at mix-ups? You have to pick one or the other, which really sucks -_-. I’d probably switch to wesker for his assist, but I love playing dante too much to drop him.
She always needed assists to do the most damage, remember tatsus team in vanilla? He was the only one doing 800k in one combo and it was just simple double relaunch stuff with assists.
Dante’s OTG assist is mad slow and doesn’t give you unblockable set ups like Wesker does. Using Dante’s OTG as an assist is just not really that smart any ways when jam session helps her deal with that glaring hole she has of people trying to fight her from the sky. Plus it gives her inescapable level 3 setups after you kill somebody off of resets or get a 2 for one and turn on XF.
I blame Capcom for nerfing standard assists for combo extensions but leaving the scaling on freaking high tier Wesker and his assist. Capcom did not think about that one too hard. Even if they nerfed the assist pop up it was still a great unblockable set up assist and would still be somewhat strong for that purpose with a character that’s great on point even without assists (but better with).
The fact that it’s one of the best assists for setting up unblockables and is one of the only assists that guarantees you’ll be able to continue combos…it’s just too much to not wanna try now.
It’s almost like screw going for the resets now. The game was supposed to be more reset based but Spencer has easy mode TOD’s in his new self DHC glitch self. Might as well just say screw it to building up for dirt nap and just have Wesker shoot people so X-23 can do damage. I’ll stick with my team regardless because I still feel some strength in the reset build for the level 3. Especially since at worst it’ll just build more meter for Dante and Doom. The nerf to the hit stun on X-23 L talon attack makes it harder to convert off of jam session any way if you were going to try to double use it as a left/right assist.
Dante’s OTG assist…Crystal? Dunno, I never got that to work properly in MVC3 and the rest of his assists aren’t good for extending now, but I’ll give Crystal a whirl tomorrow.
EDIT: Far too slow lol.
As for other options, you might have Felicia’s Sandsplash but I haven’t tested that out yet. Also, is Centurion Rush any good for cover? I’m assuming it’s not that hot?
Luckily I don’t use assists for extending combos (Hell I barely use assists at all), but I will admit the whole thing is kind of dumb. Love ya too Capcom (I really do like them though)! At least X gets a small loop with CS and TA in Ultimate.
sandsplash works for relaunch, 850k easy. pretty much same deal as Wesker, use sandsplash into neck slicer. anywhere on screen on any character.
seems pretty fast, decent projectile too. reaches 3/4 of zoomed in screen, keeps them grounded. 3 hits of blockstun up close is alright, better than disruptor at least. anchor felicia is crazy scary now as well, she’s a good addition to any team.
if you want an assist with a decent amount of blockstun, travels full screen, gives you tons of time to hit confirm on raw hits like vanilla Akuma and works for relaunches… Wesker Jaguar Dash lololol
People just dont like x-23 man, I’m getting heat from people running teams Wesker, Strider, Dante and all other sorts of BS saying x-23/Vergil is cheap ~___~
but then i switch to Nemesis/Vergil and they bitch even more so it may just be my scene lol.
Word. Me and my boy did a 1st to 50 today I was running Vergil/X-23/Taskmaster…Hawkeye. He was boding me at 1st then I switched to Hawkeye and started laming his x-factor out. I only hit him with dirt-nap twice during the entire set because I dont have an assist for the inescapable Derp Nap. The 2nd time I hit him with it dude went off “fuck this bitch blah blah blah broken ass super” etc. Im like “nigga you playing Dante/Spencer/Akuma stfu” lol
nah that’s just this game through and through
nobody likes anybody when you are playing marvel. the only guy I’ve seen who seems to be enjoying himself when he plays is Combofiend. maybe that’s why he’s so good? ahaha
So…looks like I’m running Felicia in the back with any random projectile assist and that’s my X-23 team sorted!