Not necessarily. If two people who are virgins get married, they’ll have no previous sexual partners to compare their spouse to, and they have the rest of their lives to lab it up and get better. Even though the guy had some insecurities, it’s not his fault that he was lied to.
Allegedly there is one and someone on reddit linked it but it got erased. I have no idea how to check that or not, and when I tried following the link it said I had to be some sort of member. But I think a paid member, so even making an account would be pointless. I’m certainly not going to pay for a reddit account though just to see if I could find that link.
(Two virgins getting married are still probably going to have “terrible” sex just to due to being inexperienced or, surprise surprise, turning out to not like the same things sexually even if they have compatible “sexual orientations”.
It happens. I don’t see why people worry so much about it though, even as a “virgin” myself. Then again, I say that about sex in general.)
All I’ve taken away from this entire thread is shit that I already knew unfortunately. Namely that American courts are incredibly absurd despite still sadly being some of the best in the world, that people are as thirsty for porn as this woman (should she actually exist) is thirsty for dick and that way too many people on SRK still get trolled and baited way too easily.
Oh well. At least the pre-nup stuff was somewhat interesting to revisit.
So you’re saying she comes from America?
But DoctaDocta, we already knew that (if she actually exists). Didn’t you hear what she was actually saying saying?
Might just be my inability to be physically attracted to people, but I would say that how she originally looked wasn’t as bad as I was expecting, weird pigtails and desperate need of lip balm aside. I’ve definitely seen better-looking (Asian) women (who haven’t had plastic surgery), but I’ve also definitely seen way worse-looking (Asian) women too. Shrug.
seems to me more likely that someone who has been sexually repressed their whole life will probably continue feeling ashamed about their sexuality and have shit sex their whole life.
Sex is easy. It’s all instinctual. People are bad at it because they read up on how they’re supposed to do it and don’t understand that it has to come naturally for you. The people that write that stuff are extremely insecure, and then the people that read it become insecure too, then they start freezing up and having problems. You can’t just read a technique, you have to practice it and develop it on your own. Then experiment more and add to your repertoire, but that’s really not a big deal and each individual woman is like a new learning experience. I have found some patterns in how most react, especially the first encounter and then a few down the line, which I think of as sort of like a chess opening. The vast, vast majority of women want the first time you have sex with them to be very conservative, standard missionary, nothing too special or forceful. Then you start experimenting with slightly different positions, usually the second time you just sort of pull their legs up and get a better angle. And you just keep moving on from that.
Do you think animals have books they read? Sex classes? Videos to watch? Heck no, they just fuck. You’re an animal, human beings are not some extremely different creature. We are still driven by our instincts, we are imprinted genetically to reproduce and to know how to have sex and how to derive pleasure from sex. If we aren’t, we would have died out.
It’s amazing how people complicate stuff so much. People need to be less insecure. But probably only the people with a lot of experience will even get what I wrote, which is just so ironic, since it’s aimed at the inexperienced people.
(I am still bored, so I might as well respond to these two things while I’m here.)
Wait, the video’s supposedly available for purchase?
Yeah, this sounds more and more like troll scam or something along those lines.
At the same time, you can’t act like shaming sexuality is a lot of the reason the majority, if not most, of people take the “wait until marriage” approach. “Being ashamed of your sexuality” may indeed not be equal to “saving yourself”, but at the same time the idea of “your virginity is sacred” is equal to “being ashamed of your sexuality”, especially since it creates the idea that you’re “tarnished” if not a virgin somehow.
Similarly, though I doubt you intended it this way in your post, marriage is hardly the only type of exclusivity.
Meh, I agree for the most part, but I’d disagree that “sex is easy”, if only because people vary in what they like in sex, especially given they’re constantly told what to like and what not to like. The huge degree in variability even within compatible sexual orientations, especially when it comes to people’s (hideous) “kinks” and “fetishes” is part of why I put terrible in quotation marks: sex, like with almost everything, is quite subjective, especially since people tend not to be able to agree on what even counts as beyond coitus.
I’d also disagree that reading up or watching videos on it can’t help, but, yeah, there’s no way those things are going to fix what’s “wrong” with your sex life. If you’re relying on those things rather than doing the should-be-simple-but-somehow-isn’t thing of communicating with whoever you’re having sex with, then, yeah, your sex life is doomed to die faster than a lesbian encounters bed-death.
That said, you can’t really blame people all that much for being insecure about and complicating sex when that’s basically what most advertising does to us. Sure, you can and should condemn absolutely idiotic “sex advice” that stuff like Cosmopolitan offers that people should really know better not to take lest they end up in the hospital, but sex-shaming, relationship-shaming and creating insecurity over both those things is pretty unavoidable in America and its advertising. That’s not even taking into account the horror that is America’s fucked-up fake religiosity and the sex-and-relationship-shaming and insecurities on that side. Maybe people would “lighten up” about sex, which is weird to say as a prude myself, if it was coming from either the secular realm or the religious side. It coming from both, however, just means Americans are fucked and not in the fun way. Who knows if people will ever fucking get over it. I doubt they will, personally, at least anytime soon.
If you need guidance, just read the Kama-sutra. You don’t need anything other than that. The irony of course, is not lost on me, that this Indian man is a virgin and this whole thing about sexual insecurity comes from the very culture that essentially invented disclosing the process of enhancing sex. That’s actually pretty great irony. It’s even ironing.
However, I will just repeat what my Constitutional Law professor told me all the way back in my first year of law school: “Figure out your theories on your own, and after you have an idea of what you think look up other people that have the same ideas and go on from there.” I didn’t look at the Kama-sutra until well after I had become sexually active and had preferences, and not surprisingly pretty much everything I did was in there, including the move that I was always most proud of, and which I can no longer actually do due to age and physical declines. So I really don’t think anyone needs it, although it’s possible I am just naturally more creative and more comfortable having sex than most are. In that case, that book is certainly something most people should read or look at.
But…this thread is veering off course. I will figure out some way to get it back on and deliver some more lulz. But that reddit seems to have died and this thing only made 5 pages, so it’s kind of a failure. I barely make threads any more these days, I figured it would get at least like 13 pages. SRK has fallen so hard.
maybe theoretically, but in practice people who wait to have sex til marriage usually adhere to a belief system that shames sex. generally those people associate self worth with virginity, and since giving up your virginity isn’t something you can undo (even if you’re raped), its a great tool for shaming people.
lol that’s some great feminist logic there. I am always impressed at the high level of doublethink feminists are able to come up with. “Virginity is self worth, all people are born with virginity=OPPRESSION WOMEN RAPE CULTURE!”
If everyone is a virgin, that means everyone has high value. It is the extreme opposite of what you suggested.
In the former model, all it means is guarding what you already have.
In our American model, it means having to obtain something, which a lot of people aren’t ready for and bring a myriad of issues.
These old Asian cultures, from India to Japan, are all extremely conservative. If not for Caucasian colonialism and imperialism, they were actually far beyond Western cultures, who were wallowing in a dark ages for most of their history.
But shit, I have no idea how to really press forward on this just for sex and mocking people. So if you figure it out let me know.
I doubt a culture that created the kama sutra, built temples adorned from foundation to roof with figures doing various sex acts, and has a booming population that will soon outpace the Chinese is reserved about sex. If anything, the culture is all about saving that freakiness for their spouse only, but not detesting sex itself.
By the definition alone, he is clearly ancient. When he said he “looked at the Kama-Sutra”, he was probably talking about the first edition.
Understandable in that regard, which is why I said I mostly agreed with what you’re saying. I think part of the problem also is that people overhype their first time like it’s going be some magical bullshit where rainbows and unicorns spontaneously appear.
By this point, I’ve at least personally expected that if I ever have sex, then the first time will be at most be mediocre and possibly even be outright terrible (if only because I’m involved.)
Meh. You’ve been here long enough to know that they always do that. It’s not really surprising that it’s only gotten worse given how limited society’s already lackluster attention span as a whole has become much, much shorter due to “smartphones”, “social media” and other self-important bullshit.
Shrug. What are you going to do? It’s not like this thread would become all that bad if we started talking about law or something other than what was quite possibly a troll account on reddit, especially compared to what other threads have become. I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that the Santa Barbara thread became a festering pile of bullshit, which you were also there for, and this is nowhere near as bad (yet).