Why Fighting Games Are Bad For Gaming [Supposedly]

That’s because women are weaklings who spend their time worrying about their makeup or making duckfaces on Facebook photos instead of eating meat and training to one punch people. It’s a matter of choice, not some sort of gender issue.

I almost got beat up by a butch lesbian once, try telling her she can’t punch me.

His explanation is that it’s his opinion on how the FGC appears from a casual standpoint. And truth be told, if someone told me to watch a FG stream and I saw all the shit that people were posting in chat, and some people on the microphone, and if I saw that CORN video that he used as an example without knowing anything about the people in the group, I’d be put off just as much as he is.

FGC is not very welcoming and I don’t think anyone can seriously argue against that.

if the “not a real nigga” video does damage to gaming as a whole i think its worth it. most gamers are dweeby faggots and that video was really funny

FGC is very welcoming to people who get the stick out of their ass and can lighten up.

Real [S]men[/S] niggas play Akuma.

real talk. you wont catch me cryin over a loss

See that’s the tough thing about this, I’ve even had a couple of buddies who (other than knowing I’m into the community) know nothing about the FGC but have tuned into some streams on a few occasions because they knew I was at the event. It definitely rubbed them the wrong way because of some of that bullshit.

However my wife, who plays no games whatsoever and has never in her life watched a stream of her own accord, has met me/accompanied me to events and said nothing but how nice and friendly everyone is. Even commented how cool it is to see everyone get so hyped up over things and understands why I like it so much.

There’s some streams that **I **turn off because of the commenting and stream monsters, yet there’s the opposite spectrum of the UltraChen style which would suck in the most casual of viewers. It does suck that we have to give the casual person who might be offput the primer of “you should come out to an event, streams and out of context YT videos to get a true feel” :confused:

To add to this:
When I went to Evolution in 2k7, I didn’t know anybody… but @Valaris and @J4yx2 opened their door for me to stay there without ever having met me before. Somebody bought me a drink for just chatting about Super Turbo with them. IT was all laughs and fun and a great time. I’ve only ever had beef with ONE person in this whole community because he’s an arrogant asshole. That’s quite a small number considering how large it is.

Considering that you only need to say one thing to get started in the “fgc” its hilarious that people call us unapproachable. As long as you say “can I get next?” you are able to meet people anywhere on this planet who play games.

I would love to go to a tournament and meet the C.O.R.N. crew. And not the positive kind of “excited to meet them”. Bunch of fucking clowns.

In my experience, random people are treated as casuals if they’re not known in the local communities I’ve seen, and no one gives them a second glance or thought until they show initiative. When that random person decides to speak up, make an effort to meet people, and shows initiative and will to either be more involved or get better, people warm up to them. Granted, it’s not necessarily the most WARM environment to initially get into, but “unwelcoming” is a stretch.

Seriously, too many people nowadays expect everything to be handed to them. They’re basically like “no one’s trying to be my friend and get me involved; I **deserve **that!” when it should be “This scene seems cool; I should stick around and get involved for a bit and see if I like it.” I’ve run local tournaments for awhile now and I can tell you that the people I’ve seen who most dislike the FGC (that are/were in it at one point or another) are the ones who really just don’t care to get better or be involved, and we can do without them.

Alright, I’ll make a brief comment on this because I can already see this thread shooting off in a completely different direction with those comments. I can’t speak for your community, because I’m not from there, obviously, but where are you getting ‘white people have more power’ from? If we’re talking about history, sure, we’ve gotten the better end of the stick for a long, long time, but do you honestly believe we have some tangible advantage over them in an arcade, which is what this thread is about? As for women, we are generally stronger and taller than women, that’s a byproduct of biological makeup, not some white man run campaign to make women feel inferior. As for us garnering more respect, though, that is completely individual and I think it’s silly to put a generalization on that.

Once again, I’ll speak from the perspective of my scene and then you can compare it to your own, alright? In my scene, when you come to the arcade or come to a meet, you’re a welcomed stranger who is considered completely neutral, regardless of your skin colour or gender. We don’t look at people coming in and go ''Ew, a black guy just walked in!" or ''Ahahaha, guys, look! She’s out of the kitchen!" because that is disrespectful as fuck. But as soon as they sit down at a cabinet and start playing, we begin to form our opinions about them and mentally catalog what they play like, who they use and begin to form an opinion about their skill. Alongside that comes their personality, are they nice, confident, funny, quiet, etc? Then we mark that down, too, as any rational human would. When both of these come together, you get (in my experience) a baseline level that you start at and can ascend or descend from. Are you well respected and praised for being a mediocre Ryu player? No, and I won’t sugar coat it and say you are. But if you come in, mop up and have a generally fun to be around attitude, you’ll get props and be welcomed warmly. Where I think this supposed stigma about new players stems from is the OTHER person that walked in, the one with no experience with fighting games or arcades that sees friendly shit talking, people getting hype and most importantly, people getting props and respect for being a good player. They come in, do poorly and then wonder why people aren’t popping off or going ''Damn, that was a damn good match."

And why should we?

It isn’t bullying, it isn’t exclusion, hell, it isn’t singling somebody out. Do you want to know what it IS, though? It’s letting people be their own person and EARN their respect. When I rolled up with my ass Dudley and got dunked multiple times, I got pointers on matchups, the game in general and learned to improve. With time, I became one of the better players to frequent the arcade and people know and respect who I am, both because of my skill and my friendly personality. The only hard, frustrating part of the whole procedure was getting better, but because I got help from other people and put in the work, I got there in the end. And really, isn’t that the most satisfying part of fighting games? Getting over that hump? You may think I’m rambling about nonsense at this point, but look at all I’ve written so far and apply it to a woman (I say this because racism is absolutely not part of my slice of the FGC). She comes in, new player or not, and expects either hostility or preferential treatment because of what she has heard about the arcade scene. Most of the time, when a girl comes to the arcade and is a new player, she will get beaten a couple of times and get incredibly frustrated or joke about us not ‘going easy’ on a girl. Is that our fault? Goodness no, she is the one that is putting herself below us and saying that we should treat her as our lesser just because of her gender. Do I tone it down and give her a hand once I have noticed she is a bad player, though? You’re damn right I do, because I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Regardless of this ‘white male privilege’ horseshit that is sweeping the internet and gaming journalism right now, it hasn’t happened at all in any of the arcades I’ve gone to. What has happened, though, is people coming in with a preconceived notion of what we are going to be like which leads to kneejerk reactions whenever they get beaten or get given tips. THAT train of thought is more cancerous than any casual shit talking is every going to be, because it’s people secluding themselves because of something that probably won’t even happen! So instead of blaming their thinskin on our race, gender or upbringing, how about you stop coddling them and let women and these supposedly racially vilified minorities stand on their own feet and experience an arcade? How about people stop labeling our community as some cesspool of ignorance and hostility and instead focus on the positive and common traits, like people helping eachother get better at the game, welcoming them into an arcade family and having FUN for fuck sakes.

This might come off as pathetic or weird, considering how long I’ve been playing these games, but I consider this community my FAMILY. I was bullied, beaten and worse at my school and had the same paranoid mindset these people have for YEARS. Going to these arcades helped me prosper and brought me out of my shell, and now I can safely say that I’m a confident, happy individual with a lot to offer somebody, irregardless of their gender or race. And you know what? I never got that from any other gaming community, MOBAS, RTS, FPS? No way, they don’t have the closeness that our community does. So I ask all of the people bashing our community, please, PLEASE stop using YouTube, stream monsters and bad apples as a basis for our scene and come experience it yourself!

The fool who wrote this piece wrote a followup that is as braindead. What a fucking scrub.

Let’s not slide into Sociology please

The times that I’ve managed to stop stream monster ing and actually make it out to events have been absolutely wonderful experiences. I get absolutely demolished a lot of times but just being around people that share my passion and drive for these games is such a good feeling. I don’t understand how anyone can go to events and come away with an opinion like this if they actually care about fighting games.

People who rather talk about CORN more than Charity Relief because that doesn’t give as much backlash. I highly doubt tuning into a random FGTVlive/WNF/Big Two is going to destroy a experience for newcomers.

Most of all, I don’t understand people who act like the community won’t change. Clearly People in scene are not going to be allow to swear, make racist jokes,etc are getting more shit for doing stupid shit. Modern Fighting Game scene is miles different than what it was before 2009, and the biggest differences is that esport mentality has caused censorship/more responsibility in the community.

Stop…giving…him…hits.

  1. To answer the initial question, fighting games are actually great for video games. What is bad for video games are the ones who put anything besides gameplay as their primary focus.

  2. I can’t speak of the FGC really, but I’d figure all the slang like ‘salty’, ‘scrubz’ is more a turn off than anything else. In addition to talking like street toughs, when most look like they are math scholars.

Tell…that…to…the…OP…then.

I didn’t start this thread. Also think we should consider everything the dude wrote on the subject. That’s two articles, not one. Don’t fucking put me on blast for giving the guy hits, though. This isn’t my thread.

To be perfectly honest, why is it even an issue? The dude has clearly gotten loads of views already and the paltry number SRK (the people who haven’t heard of this from Arturo already) will give him isn’t going to give him any further recognition.