Why do I keep seeing people here saying Elena is bad?

nope I’m not doing that 1 frame link for 20 extra damage

plink dat ish. If you can do c.lp, c.lp I see no reason why you can’t do c.lp, c.mp. The rhythm for hitting it is very similar and if you plink it becomes a 2 frame link just like c.lp, c.lp.

cr jab cr jab links into spin scythe?

mk SS only

Cause she’s not A tier, by FGC inner tier whore non loyal logic. I think she’s a solid character, Justin Wong did pretty well with her at the invitational. Infiltration and PR Rog got first and second, but you have to keep in mind that they’ve BEEN using those characters.

I know. I’m still not doing it. for 20 extra damage

Yes.

Nigga. Don’t you play Yun and weren’t you bitching when he got his HK DP got nerfed? Get outta here.

Double edit. I don’t think your opinion is credible considering you bitched a lot about your character being nerfed. We’re doing the same.

I try not to use the c.mp link too often online because the link is risky to drop. I don’t see why I should let allow the opportunity for my opponents to gain frame advantage or punish me for dropping an unsafe bnb, which doesn’t even give me a solid knockdown for okizeme.

Hmmm, I didn’t know that MK SS linked. This is good to know, but how does that combo work vs crouching characters? c.lp x 2 into whatever seems to be me more or else guaranteed not to drop on characters if you are fairly close.

People who thinks she’s bad are just wrong. She’s easily one of the most solid, if not the most solid character added in Ultra. Her footsies are crazy, she can link out of overhead, and c. :mp: > ex overhead flip / ex breakdance is a 50/50 high low for your opponent.

She just controls space really really well. She seems bad because most casual players don’t have good fundamentals or footsies, and those are really Elena’s strongsuits.

People let this thread die, although I might not be helping by posting lol regardless she is not bad she is also not good and gecko she is not solid, what solid charc has moves that make the opp fall out AFTER not before or during but AFTER you hit confirm i mean cmon i should be rewarded not punished for landing that combo. What solid charc has a wonky hitbox that is not consistent by any means. What solid charc only has two buttons that can actually be used for footies everything else is punishable so its a guess or a commitment at that point not footies. Yes her 50/50 is really good but she has more cons than pros i keep telling people do not think of Elena as a charc that good instead think of Elena as a charc you can grow with if you are good with Elena then you are good at SF period cause u are good at the fundamentals and you must be really good at them to have even moderate success with her. I think Elena falls under the category of an unfinished charc i mean the hitbox can attest to that capcom didnt really seem to care all that much for her i think :frowning:

Disagree. Every competitive player who’s tried her has said she’s one of the better characters to be added in Ultra. Her footsie game is ridic. She’s not middling.

Blanka says hi. Falling out of specials is a bitch. After you know you confirms you should know what specials to go for. You have to keep an active mind about what you’re doing. If you go cr.lp cr. Lp cr. Mp ex lt you deserve to get punished and lose.

There’s been instances with other characters if they’re too far away their special won’t connect properly. Ken and Akuma shoryukens are a perfect example of this.

Once again you can make her normals safe by being space properly. Poking with st.M isn’t going to get you there. Poking with st. Lk is going to be very hard to punish. She has plenty of stuff she can poke with. Makoto has st.m and cr.m as pokes.

Here’s the truth most of the shit you’re bitching about can be overcome by work and putting time into the character. Put it depends on if you want to put in work or not.

Haven’t had too much time to play with her so far, but I loved using her in SFIII but still haven’t got the hang of her in IV

“I’m not even going to leave a lengthy post”…Then ends up leaving a wall of text. Lul.

Kitl:

“I’ma say a bunch of shit to you”

“You know what I’m done saying a bunch of shit to you”

“No wait…lemme say some more shit to you”

“Yeah…I’m done saying shit to you”

“No…I’m not done yet”

You’re like a dead horse that beat its own self to death, then came back to life to re beat itself back to death. You can be done now.

Timothy Hawk is way better than Elena.

I think a lot of Elena’s offense is really sketchy and limited, and she can be infuriating to play online as the links after mallet are hard to do by muscle memory and variable input delay screws you over. However, she has an amazing neutral game against most characters, most of my wins come from getting a life lead from AAs, pokes, and whiff punishes with sweep and slide (god I love her slide), then I just sit on it and let the opponent hang themselves. If you just try to rush down against most characters you’re gonna have a bad time, the risk/reward ratio isn’t too great for her in close range offense unless you have U1 stocked. However, if your opponent never blocks high you can stun and kill fools comically fast.

So in the first sentence, you imply that characters who don’t rely on ambiguous crossup vortexes and set plays aren’t legit only to follow it up with “I didn’t think the community was so full of scrubs.”

Maybe you should check your own scrubby, narrow-minded view of what makes a character “legit” before name calling?

Smh this character got shafted when it comes to options and combos cuz her links are asshole tight.

Ty for your input on this pretty much dead thread. It was so insightful. You’re so smart and observant.

A 9 sentence paragraph is a wall of text to you? That’s a damn shame.

As always, scrubs hate being called out on their lame, guessing game-based play.

If you think spending the whole match setting up 50/50 guessing games is skill, I’m not really sure what to say. I didn’t know luck was a skill.