i love this thread, lets keep it alive, i love elena against projectile characters but how is decapre fairing against them? I’m going to pick her up as well
So how is she compared to Third Strike? From what I can tell, her specials still seem really bad lol
Just about as good (lol) if not slightly worse for what it’s worth.
waaaaah i have to hit links waaaaah
That’s a shame, but I’ll still play her. I hate one-frame links to death though.
Hey. You’re still alive.
As insightful as always. Contributions to this forum 0. Total posts in this forum probably 15 if not more.
Anyways little_goten. A lot of her crucial tools from 3s aren’t as good and buttons that were useful aren’t as good. Like st.lk isn’t +4 anymore and her karathrow isn’t as godlike and her st.mp is -3 OH -6 OB instead of -2 OH -1 OB. So you will have to work with her Elena quirks without her old advantages. I would say she’s a niche counterpick character in my opinion.
Christ! What did they do to my girl? 
They “balanced” her lol. But seriously I haven’t much to say other than try her and if you like her give her a shot. At the very least you can have a counter pick character. Because of her janky hurtbox I’m sure there will be a few counterpick matchups for her.
I’m used to fucked up move properties so I’ll get over it, but . . . damn lol
Was just trying to fit in with you guys!
IAs the one guy Lodrak said, if you play her offensively, you’ll get mauled - the problem is, that’s how you traditionally play Elena. In Third Strike and SFxT, the last thing you wanted to do was give your momentum away. Frame traps and tick throws being another part of her, but you can’t play her that way either with how she’s negative on the majority of her moves after hit. About the only thing from the old games she still has is the mix-up game, but even that isn’t really here. She’s doesn’t have a good high game and a good low game. She has a good high game and a mediocre-at-best low game.
I don’t think this is really a matter of her being bad or good, it’s a matter of everyone who has played Elena for the past 15+ years having to go back to the drawing board because this character plays nothing like she traditionally does. Meanwhile, people who haven’t played Elena in past games seem to be taking quite the shine to her - perhaps because they aren’t approaching the character with a idea that she’s going to play like her old self because they aren’t even familiar with it.
I mean, imagine if they suddenly changed Ryu to inexplicably play like Yun. Even if he was still a good character, hell a better character, I imagine a lot of the people who have been playing Ryu for almost their entire lives would be pissed.
I can understand this at least. I hardly played 3rd strike Elena, but she wasn’t at all like she is here. Same with cross tekken Elena. So I think that the anger is probably fair, though I’m just happy she made it into this game. We’ll see if players can adjust to the new Elena, and through that new insight come up with informed opinions on the character.
Could they fix the problems with Elena and make her better? Yes.
Could I improve myself as a player and do better? Yes.
Could I use another character and do better? Yes.
Will I main other character or drop the game until she is fixed? Hell naww!
Truth
I’m really liking her. She’s fun to play. And satisfying. Because she’s not really a big damage character. She’s more about proper spacing, and whittling away at the opponent with solid footsies and anti airs. So every time I win I feel like I played the match properly. I think getting good with Elena will only improve you as a player, as opposed to other characters that require less presence of mind.
I’ve been playing mostly Elena since Ultra launched and the only reason why I get my wins is because I’m anti-airing properly and forcing the other player to move in on the ground where st short to lynx tail and cr strong to ex mallet are my main weapons. Same reason why I’d get wins with any other character. Not like I have godlike execution or anything. My main since vanilla has been boxer. So that should tell you what I’m capable of in terms of high level combos. The character really doesn’t matter when it comes to 99.9% of players on SRK forums. Just sayin.
Wasn’t expecting that 4th one…
When I play against my friend’s gief, I get owned pretty bad in that match