First i have to start with quit f’n bitching all of you.
The issue is that you guy’s are making huge issues out of things that are not an issue.
We all knew the balance to sent was coming,maybe not the extent but the balance at the very least.
As to the small small cost for whole complete playable char’s you guys obviously need to spend more time in the lab and less time bickering over dollars and cents.
Capcom while not always catering to my personal tastes always releases a quality product as opposed to say midway who released sup par title after sub par title in their flagship franchise.
Innovation,development,testing, and implementation are costly so if i have to pony up a few more dollars,oh wait i paid for the collectors edition and received the dlc and more for a reduced cost because i was willing to assist in shouldering it at the start.
Supporting from the gates a game from a company that has never let me down.
You may like some titles more then others,hell why do you think HDR was made or 3S is getting the online treatment?
For us the fans,they could go the low rent route and just push it out on us nearly as is then leave us to our fate when it’s trash because it is unpolished.
Here’s the crux of the matter you can either pay and support a company that puts it’s fan’s much much higher then the majority of company’s out there but at the end of the day is accountable to shareholders in a bad economy and amidst a monumental natural disaster.
Or take your money and preferably your bitching somewhere else.
i cant believe that people are still whining about dlc chars
im in totally favor of them since they add more value to the game in the long run, its way preferible to the other option that its buying a whole new game only to get them
now i kinda understand what shoultzula says here, i think that he wouldnt have a problem if jill and shuma werent announced before the release of the game and published a month later
That’s because MK9 is a better game. The demo was good, characters play more solid instead of random spewing unfinished infinite re-balancing character counter picking fucking bull crap.
You’ve summarized my feelings with Capcom in the new generation. They’ve never upset me until recent fighters. And Resident Evil 5 and Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter but those were my fault.
Johnny Cage’s X-ray is a move that Fei Long would give his liver just to have. It’s a counter that:
A. Does at LEAST 40-50% damage.
B. Beats physical attacks both high and low from any angle.
C. Beats throws!
D. Doesn’t beat projectiles, BUT if you get hit by the projectile while it’s still active… YOU DON’T LOSE YOUR METER!
You can only wait for it to finish, but even then it has good recovery.
When you have a x-ray/super like that, who needs x-factor?
I was planning a long response to this thread because I hate it when people bitch about DLC, but already you said everything I wanted to.
Really guys if you don’t like DLC, don’t buy it. I get why it pisses you off. But if you don’t understand why stuff like this is absolutely fucking CRUCIAL for Capcom to stay in business, not to mention for the company heads to greenlight more fighters (you know, those guys who analyze profits and decide what games get to be made), you seriously aren’t thinking this through.
Are DLCs “evil”? I don’t know. But if they are, they’re a necessary evil.
Final thought, people keep throwing out how we used to get new characters for cheaper (which I’m not even sure is true when you’re talking about having to buy a new SF game every year). Why don’t you think about how much it cost to make SF2 versus how much it cost to make MvC3.
Things that cost more to make cost more to buy. It’s that simple.
I know you’re just taking the piss, but if you can’t pay the electric company they can usually defer your payments until later. I’ve worked with some low-income families and that was always the option they took.
this isn’t a very good comparison. it’s not like you provide new technology or anything to your electric company… where as capcom provides new games to us so long as they stay in business.
If capcom is so worried about business, how about doing something to make more people play their game instead of monetarily raping whatever fan base they have left?
Online is such a huge factor for games these days that thousands of people are on the fence about buying a popular title if it has bad net code. The casual player will not buy this game to play offline, they want to play online and the online needs to be pretty fucking good. One of the main reasons COD does so well is that the casuals scene can play online just for fun while also being some what competitive. You really can’t do that for ANY modern capcom fighter cause the online is so bad its not fun.
If capcom wants to improve their business, improve the game, improve the netcode, run a capcom tournament circuit or maybe even back EVO as the official sponsor and add a little bit of prize money.
Instead of creating a better product in order to generate more sales they don’t. Things like god like net code are HUGE. People want to play these games online, especially the casual market, and when its trash, you simply just don’t sell enough copies. That doesn’t mean you turn to DLC cause sales are low. In fact they could probably make 100x more by implementing great net code than milking DLC. A great net code with proper advertising would expand the player base. DLC only milks what existing player base there is.
The point he was trying to make was that this stuff should have been included with the game. The game’s single player experience is BARREN. Other than the fighting and game mechanics, it has absolutely NOTHING to offer any casual gamer who isn’t hardcore into the series. They were content with just putting the absolute bare minimum on the disk and charging 60 bucks for it, while MK9 is offering a TON of single player experiences and even more online modes. And don’t get me started on leaving out spectator mode and the horrible online experience.
This game is a massive disappointment, the only good thing they nailed was the fighting, that’s all they offer, now that may be enough for some of you. But in terms of a full game MvC3 fails to deliver on almost every level. You don’t get to say ‘The fighting is good, so that’s all that matters.’ No, they don’t get an A+ for solid fighting. That’s where you start from.
All I’m taking away from this is that you don’t understand basic business practices because “release a better product” does not mean “make enough money to justify releasing a sequel”, “releasing a profitable product” does. I’m not trying to talk down to you man but you keep insisting that fixing problems that the die-hard fans worry about is somehow going to generate tons of sales, and that’s just not the case and you have no reason to believe it is.
They need to keep “milking” people who already own the game to justify making more fighters in the future. If the game isn’t fiscally rewarding, no matter how good the tourney scene thinks it is, they won’t support it or make another.
The game sold about 275k copies the first week. That’s about $1.6 mil revenue. Do you know how much money the game cost to make? What the long term sales projections are? How much it would cost to release a patch with better netcode? How much it would cost to DEVELOP a patch with better netcode?
Capcom is usually good at making money. They’re also usually good at making video games. Sometimes these two things overlap.
Yeah but the electric company can always jack your rates. This is still optional.
that argument would be more compelling if the electric companies didn’t have an effective monopoly in any given region… and as you stated, weren’t heavily subsidized
