Who actually does low damage?

Yeah that’s basically Doom status. If Doom puts you in the corner by himself you’re gonna die so I guess that’s officially truck.

Dante is hitting 500-600k without super with practical shit.

Without assist too?

Magneto should be truck. Magnetic blast loops hit hard.

Put V.Joe in low damage. New hit stun scaling system makes most his old combos not work and his new combos need meter to even get to 450K+ I main’d him since Vanilla.

500+K hard?

Word.

Then Chun is def solid damage. 450k before super is no problem.

Not sure how practical Nini’s Dante is. He’s sooo good

My bnb with 4 magnetic blasts into 2 reps of hypergrav loop does like 600k, but it uses an assist. Still very practical so yes.

Trish isn’t low damage. She can land 400k with a hopscotch relaunch

400k even? My new threshold is at 450 to get to solid damage. Gotta do 450 at least with assists or something to not be low damage. Honestly…400k before super really isn’t that terrible but in comparison…I would say it’s going on low.

bad players do low damage bcuz they dont know what theyre doin :stuck_out_tongue:

Morrigan and Hsien-Ko for sure deal low damage off standard BnBs. To make things even worse, their attacks cause so much hitstun decay even extending a combo with an OTG assist or wallbounce usually results in an early recovery by the opponent. Hsien-Ko is capable of reaching close to solid damage with a corner gong loop, and Morrigan is capable of hitting truck level damage with a corner specific combo that involves fireballs and flight cancels, but the level of execution to reach it is completely absurd. It also doesn’t help that they don’t come with ground bounce attacks or can’t self OTG outside of supers to help confirm into combos - traits you’ll see most of the characters hitting truck level damage come with.

It’s one thing to make a character geared more towards being an assist-character by making an assist stand out; it’s another to make their point game almost completely invalid when compared to the entire cast. In a game where there are so many ways to deal big damage, it almost seems like extra effort goes into making a character capable of mediocre damage at best.

With assists? 500k easily meterless with Wesker assist

do these combos include assists?

I would put shuma in solid. I main him, and have played almost every match of marvel 3 with him. The only issue I have is his absurb scaling. All of his shit including openers does like 50k hits, but technically with the proper execution and time spent, he can probably do more than 450k, but that is almost pushing it lol. With your definition of practical, the 450+ combos with him are “practical,” but impractical enough that you’re never going to see a tourney player doing those combos with shuma. Then again, you’re never going to see shuma in a tournament period. For the general basis of shuma players, his damage is considered low though.

yes

Word.

You’re considered solid if you get 450+k with assists at the minimum. You need to be able to do 500+k practically (mid screen or corner) without an assist to be considered a truck.

Here’s a question: Why is super dmg not included? I can understand if it was that the combo didnt build enough for a hyper but if it does build atleast one bar, 99% of the time, we’re gonna use the super. Also, supers arent the same dmg and dont have the same scaling so even though (just an example, not a fact) Hawkeye may only do 400k but if the combo builds a bar, the super is most likely gonna be used and if it puts the dmg at 500k then thats a big difference.

Mainly because most of the reason why people feel like a character does low damage is because of the damage they see before the super. It’s easy to see if a character does big damage or not by the damage they do before super.

Hawkeye is a solid damage character overall so it’s not a big deal.

Unless the character is a cheap 800k health character you’re better off going for a reset so you can save meters. Meter is too precious now to blow everytime you land something anymore.

Yeah. Shot loops are the shit