Statement of the year.
Sure, Taskmaster can spend meter and kill a character, but he doesn’t RELY on meter currently. That’s what people aren’t properly conveying when they say “imagine that, a character does better with meter.” Yes they do better, but they don’t need it, that’s what people are trying to get across. When you designate a character as a battery, they don’t use meter in exchange for a character who relies on meter. Look at Clockwork’s game for a perfect example, Doom and Cable are excellent meter users and builders, but what makes them batteries is that clockwork decides to have the vast majority of his meter used by Strider.
No character is an inherent battery, all characters are better when meter is available to them, but a character who is self sufficient without meter and can effectively build meter, that is then placed on a team for a character who relies on meter, that’s what makes them a battery. Some people seem a bit confused by this.
Wow… I give up on SRK. My sarcasm is completely lost on you morons.
Forget that I was actually at EVO playing against this Justin fellow. My god, SRK.
Oh hey, I even have a MVC TE signed by him I’m trying to sell for $200 bucks, let me know if you’re interested. Fucktards.
Think I’m going to stay out of the Marvel forums, this shit is too 2011 for me.
@ SleeveBandit
I directly replied to him by quoting someone else? At best, I would accept an indirect reply.
Glad Anemone can drop some knowledge for you. Wesker doesn’t need to use any meter to get in, score big damage, and continually mix the opponent up generating a constant stream of meter. Though I disagree wtih Anemone on that one part, Wesker is not better with meter unless it’s level 3 and you can get a kill off it. That was my original argument, that you are actually worse off using Phantom Dance as a magic series ender.
If you aren’t going to run away and spam shit with a projectile heavy character than Wesker is just as good if not better than any close range meter builder.
**This just in, She-Hulk is definitely NOT a battery character! No matter what anyone says, and forget whatever you saw Justin do this weekend! SHE IS NOT A BATTERY! Point characters can not be batteries no matter what, he should have been running Amaterasu the entire time, what a scrub.
/sarcasm for the real thick-headed members
I think Dante and Spider Man might be good batteries. Dante’s longer relaunch/loop combos build a ton of bar and usually the super tagged onto the end doesn’t add much damage.
Likewise, Spider man has relatively solid combos that scale to the point where Maximum Spider doesn’t benefit the damage much. You probably wouldn’t lose much ending Spidey’s combos without a super, unless you were going for ultimate web resets.
Sure I’ll agree with that. I do play a more punish oriented game (not pure rushdown) so if you play Spencer as a rush down character, you’ll be fine with less meter.
I just find that having meter with Spencer though forces your opponent to play more defensively (kinda like how people are more cautious against Cable with super in MVC2) so it’s a bit easier to rush in.
^^ this wesker imho is indeed a good battery. phantom dance is shit unless u do like a ground combo into it. even still its a waste of meter. his counter is off the chain though counters lvl3’s and random shit like iron man’s cannon materializing, hulk meteor etc
take them for a ride alll the way to the corner with iron man assist and build some more meter with another assist/combo… or go straight into lost in nightmare
after the second assist its basically a throw trap if they try to roll forward and jump up as most ppl try to roll out of the corner.
if i recall correctly a battery is a character who builds a lot of meter, easily
Not a total waste, a ground combo into phantom dance does pretty good damage provided Wesker starts phantom dance close to his opponent and is in the middle of the screen, the move loses too many hits if you’re in the corner or far away.
Well, builds meter easily and does not rely on meter to function.
Wesker is one of the best, if not the best battery in the game.
I defiine battery as “how much effectiveness is lost by not using meter”
And for wesker, it’s like -20%. The only reason it’s not higher is because Lvl3 can be used to instakill sometimes.
Ending combos w/ phantom dance is a waste of meter and a waste of a great okizeme oppurtunity. It’s not proper wesker.
I just do basic B&B to OTG+assist (TK overdrive), then relaunch B&B. They end in the corner, then I OTG gunshot and okizeme their airtech with either airthrow or launch.
Magneto has the long combos, but likes his gravity squeeze alot.
Taskmasker can get to 700 with one meter, he likes his meter. Not to mention confirms off any zoning arrows.
Chris just kinda sucks, I’m sorry.
Spiderman is a great battery, with an OTG assist he has a 600 damage BnB that builds a ton of meter and can’t even use a super at the end unless he’s facing Sentinel.
You guys are sleeping on deadpool, between his zoning and his pretty good BnB, he’ll get you that meter.
Whoa, whoa, whoa kiddo! You’re making too much sense in this post.
As it’s already clearly been stated by Akuma31:
“Wesker’s still not a battery character LOL! Regardless of what anyone says.”
You can’t fuck with that incontrovertible truth. Especially not when he has youtube links to day-2 Marvel.
And Okizeme? Come on dude, you’re going to lose the gamefaqs crowd with all your advanced lingo. Besides you don’t need okizeme because your opponent is guaranteed to eat a cross up right after phantom dance regardless of positioning, another fact courtesy of Akuma31, what a beast.
Once again, a new obligatory “/sarcasm” for all you thick-headed 2011 chumps out there.
680000 before the hyper and it built 2 bars
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I noticed Zero’s been mentioned here but no one really showed the meter-building BnB so here it is:
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It builds 2 full meter if you get every hit and does 550,000 - 582,000 damage before the super, and you can replace the super with an extra j.:qcf::h:
Zero’s Lv3 Super is too good to call him a battery character IMO.
I think Chun-Li is the best battery. Very minimal meter usage, big and long combos to build meter, and she doesn’t use ground bounce or OTG in her B&B so you can Aerial Exchange without giving yourself away beforehand.
The only problem w that? Using the super there plus a good DHC kills most characters. Why wouldn’t you do that?
The super added like 120k!
That’s what make him a good battery, he built enough meter to Hyper and DHC in a single combo and if you decide not to, you get 2 bars and a character missing more than half life.
This is apropos of nothing. I can’t comment on Wesker’s effectiveness against zoning teams, but assuming that he has trouble, that isn’t a characteristic that makes him a poor battery character.
yo akuma31 do u have xbox live? id like to play u :nunchuck:
srsly
lol holy shit this guy just doesn’t quit.
Yeah we get it asshole, it’s your pacifist opinion that Wesker is most definitely NOT a battery character. For someone who doesn’t want to tread on other peoples opinions you never shut the fuck up trying to convince us of it.
What’s truly pathetic is how much you worship people who can put up youtube videos. Tournament cred isn’t what your after, since as far as I know Maxmillian has 0 so far.
So somebody get Keits, Maxmillian, or Justin Wong in here to tell this fool Wesker is a battery. It’s the only way he will shut the fuck up about it.
Then again, he is so thick-headed he might just turn on his idols.
Love the hypocrisy in your posts again btw. Renegade is wrong in creating contexts that differ from the ones you agree with, good job there asshat. I wasn’t aware there was a generally established definition of battery agreed on by the community yet.
To gain meter, you have either have to 1) get hit, 2) hit (even blocked). If he is not landing his combos he cannot gain meter unless he gets hit and you don’t want to get hit by ranged so you end up with little to no meter gain. Versatility also plays a factor into gaining meter because as a battery you want to be gaining as much of it as possible so you can unload with your meter dump character. The playstyle on my Wesker is that if I catch you slipping, that’s your ass. Otherwise I’m playing a safe game, harassing, crossup attempts, etc. Wesker hits very hard so all you need is one solid combo opportunity.
I have an account but my system is dead. I play on PSN mostly but my PS3 is dead too, working on getting another PS3. I’ll actually be on tomorrow at my friends place. I’ll try logging in on my account but don’t count on it.