The planet Venus.
I thought people only talked shit when they money matched?
The REAL REALITY is niggas too busy holding in tears while playing to concentrate on anything else with they soft ass.
Edit: also why are we ALL of a sudden attacking Mens rights activist? Isn’t there a whole thread for that or are we just trying to blame shift? Talk about Ambivalent sexism folks…
Sometimes I wish I could like and Agree.
Niggas do be holding them feels. it’s hella funny on camera though I ain’t gonna lie.
better not lose bro. I mean, equal rights is chill yadda yadda, but girls suck at SF :mad:
^^ I have no idea what you just said nor the point.
Ok lets say women are all hugely into gaming but…its only the extremely casual titles like farmville and flash crap on their phones(basically the modern equivalent to solitaire on old-school comps). Does that REALLY make them gamers?
When all they play are glorified, flavor of the month time-wasters, that require no longterm focus or interest?
I thought I was good at all games until I played candy crush saga. Females on level 500 and im stuck on 67. Games that females play are hard.
That comic strip has got fuck all to do with modernism and post-modernism. and anybody posting it should be ashamed
My beefs with Slut Walk are mainly that it was stupid, and reactionary. Maybe it had a heart that was in the right place, but it was somehow less than the sum of its parts.
It is somewhat disheartening to see pictures of women holding signs or otherwise promoting themselves as sluts, often dressed accordingly, given the nature of the controversy. As opposed to holding signs saying that they weren’t sluts or dressed provocatively when they were raped or attacked, because that’s not the nature of the crime. Or ones who say that they were, but that has nothing to do with what happened. As it was, it reeked of being a stunt to garner attention, more than a group having much to say.
It also continues a trend of some feminist issues of gender politics, particularly of third-wave feminism, which happen to line up quite nicely with chauvinist and misogynistic preferences.
From a feminist blog piece:
I wouldn’t bother pointing this out if you hadn’t emphasized it, but it is far from the dumbest thing ever said. I think it’s wrong, chiefly because it has the wrong attitudes about men, even more than women (see below). But it is the exaggeration of a common sense notion about risk management.
So guys would rape all the time, unless some ad campaign says otherwise? Or, more to the point, rapists will stop if someone tells them to? I’m not understanding the reasoning here. It makes far less sense than the alternative example of alerting women to a danger they may not be aware of. This is, of course, pretending that her sign is true.
By your own reasoning, you shouldn’t have given that advice to your female cousin, and instead told random boys not to be rapists. Why is the one more offensive than the other? I think they’re reversed, at least in that regard.
And in the case of of both men and women cautioning women about dressing in a highly provocative manner, I would agree that it’s out of place as it relates to most rapes. However, it is completely rational as it relates to getting attention, including unwanted attention, and possibly harassment. The history of women not exactly understanding the way they dress and act as it relates to the perceptions of men is a very old one. For example:
This thread makes me wonder… With changing demographics in these markets… How long will it be before a African American professional hockey player become a poster boy for Popeye’s?
There’s a part of me that wants to take what Anita Sarkeesian says seriously… But most of me wants to punch here in the face for her bias interpretation of all things video game.
Being a man is bad and we should feel bad for having evil penises of doom. Do you not know that all men are inherently rapists? especially niggas on SRK.
Is it not a weird coincidence that all of the best Female street fighter players are actually dudes?
WTF… The first one gives you practical solutions. (Too bad women don’t give a shit about being able to defend themselves physically, instead of counting on men around them.) The other just assumes every male is a potential criminal and that’s an offensive and dangerous approach to take in education. “Don’t be a rapist” is taken for granted in society, so schools don’t need to “teach” that. Criminals know they are committing a crime and they really don’t give a shit. How the hell is school gonna change that? The only solution against someone who knowingly disobeys the most common rules of society is first of all an immediate physical retaliation, which is why only learning self defense can truly help prevent rapes.
Just because some crazy people like jumping off of roofs, you can’t just assume the rest of mankind is just as batshit insane and that they need to be “taught” that jumping off of roofs is not good for your health.
So I was going to preface/followup each link with something, but I figure I’ll let them speak for themselves. Some are from MRA-type sites, some from sites critical of them. Some have disturbing images… and even more disturbing reasoning. Fair warning.
http://manboobz.com/2013/05/01/the-myth-of-warren-farrell-farrell-on-rape-part-one/
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/feminism-needs-domestic-violence/
http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48826589304/violenceagainstwomeniswrong-trends-guys-take-to
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.ca/p/prevalence-of-false-rape-claims.html <-- I know I said I would shut up but I just need to point out how close this is to creationist reasoning.
http://wtfwhatthefeminist.blogspot.ca/2012/02/why-mra-mens-rights-activist-movement.html
http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/avfm-radio/avfm-radio-how-to-be-a-creep/
I’m only a predator of the sea ladies, no need to be alarmed.
SlutWalk isn’t trying to make feminism “sexy” any more than Extra Credits is trying to make video games “mainstream.” SlutWalk is trying to make a point about dress, and how dress isn’t an open invitation. Nor is dress going to necessarily prevent rape anyway.
Don’t strawman, please; you’re like the last person I expect to see doing it – I’m not even close to saying all men would rape if it wasn’t for an ad campaign. I’m saying that sign has a point: why is the preventative measure getting top billing over the attempt to educate boys on what is and isn’t consent/rape/generally bad conduct?
I don’t regret the advice I gave my cousins, because sadly, we live in a world where they have a much greater chance than me of being sexually assaulted thanks to the fact they have vaginas. I don’t regret it for the same reason I was one of the people in that SRK thread about the bullied kid who killed his attacker praising the fact said bullied kid was found not guilty; self defense.
Just because I suggest a preventative measure doesn’t mean I’m condoning behavior that makes the preventative measure seemingly necessary to begin with; I might tell the bullied kid to avoid his tormenter, but I sure as hell won’t support any idea that bullied kids should HAVE to actively do so in place of educating kids about bullying and setting up laws to help curb it.
Crime isn’t this thing that is only committed by specially-designated “criminals.” The crime of rape might well be committed by someone who isn’t otherwise a criminal but is listening to certain urges over reason; ANY crime might be committed for that same reason. See also: why carrying a gun is a bad idea if you’re a perpetually angry human being. There’s also no evidence that certain types of dress will prevent rape.
To that end, no, teaching boys not to rape isn’t telling boys they’re all potential rapists any more than telling human beings not to murder their fellow man is an accusation that all people are potential murderers. And as I said, I’m NOT saying people shouldn’t take preventative measures to offset the chance of crime, but there’s a big problem with this inability some people have in seeing that dressing a certain way shouldn’t invite sexual assault. It’s the same thing super-conservative Muslims preach in demanding women show nothing but their eyes because they’ll “distract” men. Or super-conservative ANYONE for that matter.
You can use education to mold people. Some people will end up criminals anyway… and, because of that education, some people won’t.
I’ve never seen nor heard of any human who was a perfectly good law-abiding citizen… until that one time he got so horny that he actually raped someone. Rapists are never kind people to begin with…
Yes it is when you get more specific than “human beings”. And schools shouldn’t teach to not murder either. That shit should be obvious to any member of society. And don’t bring religion into this. Under Sharia law rape is kinda legal as long as you rape your wife and not anybody else, but I’m talking about life here in the more civilized part of the world.
I’d rather you give specifics instead of links, then it’s easier to address things.
For example: “In relation to the previous paragraph, many MRAs believe that it is discriminatory to name accused rapists while providing the accuser with anonymity.” http://wtfwhatthefeminist.blogspot.ca/2012/02/why-mra-mens-rights-activist-movement.html
Yes. Keyword is ACCUSED, not PROVEN GUILTY. Both should be anonymous until the case is resolved in full. Case example Kobe Bryant. Even if you know you never raped anyone yet you are still being accused, do you think people treat you the same way as always? Do you think you’ll get to keep your job while the trial is ongoing? Victims of false rape charges suffer a lot of damages because they don’t get the anonymity they need.
Why shouldn’t schools teach it? “Society” isn’t some thing that just exists; it’s a human construct and supported by a what we teach, how we act, what laws we create, what laws we enforce, our environment, others’ environment, etc. Schools should teach kids that killing another human being outside of self defense when one’s life is in danger is wrong, and we should outlaw murder. How else will we know not to murder, that it’s a societal no-no with terrible consequences?
That’s not even getting into the study of societal norms elsewhere, the discussion of how to approach cases where countries have huge human rights violations (all in the name of their own societal norms), etc.
Hey, it’d be nice if people were born smart and moral, but we’re all ultimately a product of our environments, upbringing, and whatever quirks we each have in that cocktail of fluids and electricity in our own bodies.
Truthfully, I didn’t want to explain each and every individual part I agreed/disagreed with in each link. I read every one and felt there was enough in each to stand on their own.
Re: naming the accused, I actually agree with you. This is one thing if a real hardcore man-hater feminazi-type (and not a more rational feminist) read, they’d want my head: we shouldn’t call anyone a victim until it’s proven, regardless of the crime. So yeah, there’s that. But most of the other stuff in that link, especially the parts about abortion, ring true.
Rape is a huge ass problem unfortunately. One reason is, if there were no witnesses and no signs of physical harm (bruises, cuts, etc.), how can a jury tell weather the sexual act (even with DNA evidence proving sex occurred) was consensual or nonconsensual? What if the woman was held at knife or gun point, therefore was forced under threat of death rather than physically held down? What if her arms were held down by the much stronger guy, and the guy didn’t need to hit her to accomplish his task?
Another problem is many women are afraid to come forward about being raped cause of how embarrassing/humiliating it is for them. In addition to that there are indeed people, who think ‘she asked for it’ and all that. About anonyminity for any crime, I believe the accused and victim(s) should not be revealed in any way to anyone outside the courtroom.
A few measures women could take if they are attacked. If it is legal in your state, carry a taser gun…guy trying to force himself on you, taser his ass. Even big dudes will fall to the ground. Another weapon you can carry is mace or pepper spray, should disable the attacker enough to escape. If unarmed, gouge the eyes…try to tear em out. Also kneeing the groin area is also effective. Perhaps there should be a mandatory rape self defense class in middle school or high school for women.
Another problem is that most reports are fake and even women that don’t fake it still commonly use the threat of sexual harassment to exploit men.
Another problem is US legal discrimination against men making it near impossible for a man to report rape and should a man try to report rape he will usually get laughed at or the woman will turn it around into the guy raping her instead of her raping the guy.
Another problem is that people like you are ignorant of the fact that men get raped too.
http://www.cotwa.info/2013/02/woman-jailed-after-11-false-rape-claims.html
Dude, WTF is your point? You’ve jumped to a bunch of nonsensical conclusions and haven’t addressed anything I said in my post. Rather you say well blah blah blah some women do this, so there! Lol. Also jump to conclusions much? When have I ever said men don’t get raped? Much much much less often than women (xcept in prison maybe) but sure it happens. Usually they are raped by other men when it does.
Anyone purposefully making false accusations should be severely penalized. There are also many rapists who get off the hook which is just as terrible.