Where did all the feminist/hipsters come from?

…what?

You might try pointing out specific things that people are incorrect about. For example:

This is, of course, wrong.

You’re conflating an image of power, action, or agency, for what would literally be homoerotic images of naked men in bondage. That is, homoerotic to the male audience which you assume is the target of these ads- which is in error. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Smallville, but it had a large female viewership. I’m not so familiar with Arrow, but, as I understand it, it is similar in that regard.

Also incorrect. Either you mean the 1850s and '60s, and don’t know what you’re talking about, or you actually mean second-wave feminism, instead (and are also quite wrong). Most of the grievances voiced in this thread have to do with the fringe ideals of second-wave feminism- in fact, earlier in the thread, there was a video posted featuring quotes by prominent or famous figures in the movement. Maybe you missed it.

I like how women holding political rallies, trying to vote, and being involved with the abolitionist movement are the “sparks” which have “contributed to” this precious third-wave feminism (ie. slut walks and the idea that “heteronormative” notions are immoral; clearly much more important). If you are actually referring to second-wave feminism, your comment is also absurd, but relatively less so.

Oh…was this post a parody? If so, I think it’s far too subtle; if you’re going to condescend to people to inform them that they don’t know what they’re talking about, and then go on to be wrong, yourself, about nearly every statement, you have to be wrong in a way which is less prosaic.

Incidentally, I should hope whatever you’re teaching isn’t American history of any sort, at least as it relates to this subject about which you claim to be informed.

For all the misguided white boys that don’t understand what’s wrong with them, I’ve got you covered.

TRIGGER WARNING

I came in to say that I’m outraged that such things happen! That man’s physique is an unrealistic depiction of the male anatomy! How can I as a man be expected to look like that with my body as itis looking average with no abs or pectoral muscles showing? Whereas women can look however they like with no effort and men will oogle them? Fucking unrealistic expectations!

Why you guys are arguing about nonsense. I am trying to figure out life’s real problems. Like why the fuck does Chun Li have the biggest thighs and the flatest ass. Like that is not even sexy capcom.

I think it’s an incredibly positive development. We should always stand for relentless criticism of all that exists as it correlates to cultural oppression - the things we’re personally emotionally invested in, doubly so.

It’s possible to enjoy things on one level while viewing them with a certain detachment on another. For example, I love how KOF games play, doesn’t mean I have to be a big fan of bouncy Mai or King getting her clothes ripped off after a KO, and I have no trouble being vocally critical of it.

While it’s true that female gamers are making up a greater percentage of players these days, I find the notion that this should matter irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I think it’s great that there are more these days, but even if there wasn’t a single female gamer in existence, uncritically accepting sexism in games is just the wrong thing to do, as it only serves to reinforce real-world oppression.

And by the way it’s quite revealing that people online post their fantasies of sexual violence towards women who voice opinions they disagree with, like Sarkeesian. They’re doing an excellent job of proving the point not only of exactly why this criticism is necessary, but of why its volume should be increased.

The problem here, is that more of these “Perfect world” arguments that totally remove subjective viewpoints and social interpretation.
You’re views what is/is not may vastly differ from mine.

47% of gamers are women? Playing what?!

Well considering the % of that rose with flash games and I/OS and Android platform’s i’d think that is where a bulk are coming from.

What…that mobile phone crap? Seriously? The most casual of “gaming” programs?

Well if the mood of the defenders on this thread are to be believed, the environment should not matter.
It’s a “Do it my fucking way or i’ll make you” but reversed so the minority should hold sway over the majority.
The waters get muddied and will continue to do so,but that undeniable fact why no forward momentum has or will be made in said mediums.

The voice of “Unfair” or unjustified or exploitation hold no sway over profit margins.
Love it or hate it, that shall not change now or ever.

Three things I want to talk about, directed at nobody in particular, but that I’ve seen mentioned.


  1. SlutWalk

The entire raison d’etre for SlutWalk is simple: there are people out there who think that skimpy dress is partly to blame for rape. Which is just about the dumbest thing ever thought by anyone.

I used to buy into MRA bullshit until I actually listened to it. And listening to it is revealing: opinions that women who don’t want to be raped (because there are people who want to be raped, right?) shouldn’t dress in a way to “send signals” and “invite unwanted attention.” Because, as we all know, men just can’t control themselves when they really want to fuck someone, am I right studs? High five?

Yes, there are people that believe this. I’m not a big fan of those “I need feminism because” signs, but the one I totally agree with is the one that goes on to say “my school teaches girls how not to get raped, instead of teaching boys not to rape.” And yeah, it’s dudes doing the majority of the raping on this planet, and other dudes – and some women! – who say stupid shit like “well she asked for it for dressing like a slut.”

Hence, SlutWalk.

And before it’s said yet again: no, jackasses, this doesn’t mean women shouldn’t take preventative precautions. This also doesn’t mean I don’t like me skimpy ass clothing. If the Sorceress from Dragon’s Crown and I fought side by side and she made suggestive gestures to me throughout, I’d play along, see where it led, and hope it led somewhere awesome… but if I instead end Stage 1 by motorboating her titties and fucking her in every hole despite her protests, I’d be a fucking rapist. Fortunately I know how to control myself. More guys should, and stop saying bullshit like “she was asking for it.”

A partially-related aside: I’ve told my female cousins that if anyone tries to rape them, make them regret being born. Claw out their eyes. Apply enough torque to partially tear off their ears and/or scrotum. Make them fucking cry. It’s no less than they deserve.


  1. Countries that Mistreat Women

This is not a phenomenon of the past: it’s happening right now. Lawmakers in India calling protesters “troublemakers” for demanding better protection against gang rapes. Women in extreme conservative countries who have to get permission from men to do shit. Women who have to cover their bodies lest they “distract men.” Women earning less money on average than men for the same work. Shit like SlutWalk getting criticized for the reasons I just laid out. First world countries, third world countries, subtly, openly, whatever: this is neither a thing of the past nor ignorable.

The notion that women have it good in general is bogus. Just throwing out a stat or three about some field more women graduate in than men or whatever with no context into why that’s happening (PROTIP: while men are more often the victims of violent crime outside of rape, their attackers are almost always men, and that should tell you something about context) is idiocy.


  1. Shit that Legitimately, and Unfairly, Favors Women

I agree 100% that the favoritism on-the-scene police show to women in cases like domestic disturbance is unfair. I also, as mentioned, have strong opinions about maternity leave, child support, and other things where men aren’t being treated fairly. And while I do NOT think women should have to dress in flattering ways all the time, I like it when they do, and have mastered the art of subtle eye humping (hence my position of sexy female artwork in games and elsewhere).

But let’s not be moronic and assume these things cancel out the myriad of issues modern women and girls face. We’re better than that.

What MRAs condone the “she was asking for it” mentality?

Darn it white folks why are you guys bringing your arguments to every website. Didnt you know that the FGC is mostly for colored folk. What the fuck is the difference between a cis-sexual and a cyst-sexual.

All the super-touchy feminist stuff in the media etc. is obviously just there to rile people up and ultimately bring in cash from people who support it as well as people who oppose it, but that doesn’t matter. Media coverage like that might as well be imaginary.

Say you go out to a major tourney, sit down for one of your matches, and a female opponent sits down next to you. You both say good luck or whatever and play out your set, and when it’s done no matter who wins you both shake hands and say “good game”. If you can manage that with the optional addition of some small talk about whatever game you just played, and if you can manage that without being a creep or a dickhead, then congrats; you’re not the horrible sexists that video game websites and people with liberal arts degrees make you out to be.

Or the reality of you talking a ton of shit while winning/losing.
Are then then also the sexual predator waiting to strike?

Reminds me of this time my friends and I were hitting up some con and saw a flyer for this RP game advertising it’s features. One feature stating “60% of players are women”. My friend laugh and said, “well not anymore with that advertisement!”

Kinda odd how a game needs help advertising it stating that women play it.

So, any word on where these sluts came from?

It’s easiest to ask which ones don’t.

Actually if you don’t mind could you link to one or two of these?
I truly am curious if these are stated outright or interpreted as such.

I’ll do this in a bit.