WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOO!: the MvC3 Zero Thread

This game takes no execution skill? Maybe if all you’re doing is Sesame Street combos. Zero is a relatively execution heavy character if you actually want DAMAGE. I’d love for you to say that on the Magneto board.

And you can incorporate buster shot into the D-Loop. You get more damage out of it that way, too.

I think any Zero who doesn’t have their buster charged the entire time is effectively gimping their character. Buster is probably the best projectile in the game and it keeps your opponent honest. Playing against a Tron doing jump :h: all day and can’t do anything about it? Buster shot. Getting zoned out by Magnus/Deadpool/Taskmaster/Doom? Buster shot. Want to maximize damage and extend combos as far as they can go? Buster shot. Life got you down? Erectile dysfunction? Buster shot.

You see where I’m going with this. There’s no reason to NOT have it charged. It’s completely and utterly counterproductive.

I agree most characters on this game have low execution… right now. It’s only been 3 months since the game has been released, I expect to see way higher damagin combos that require more execution. Also, IMO; Viper, Zero, Dante, Magneto, Chun-Li and others do require some good execution for their good combos.

When Sesame Street Combos Can do 1Mil easily and Kill off a whole character Yeah… its pretty easy… and Magneto isnt that hard he just needs …you know what fuck that hes easy. For one if you have Buster charged all the time your gonna be Semi running away also because you dont want to get hit and lose a charge… you also lose a button and with Zero I preffer to have Mixup options then buster fully charged. Honestly if your a good Zero player you could Easily do a Full charge during a combo. Also Zero isnt that hard Execution wise, Mix up wise and Match up wise is were he has a hard time. Dormammu,Trish and other characters like that can give you a rough time. Which is where you need your Mix ups and Traps ready… and With a Button Gimped the WHOLE time it lowers your options. Im not saying Zero is easy to use, Almost NO one Uses him because they Realize they have to use Mix ups/Rush down and Run away all at the same time almost.

I agree with you also with the characters youve said ( minus Magneto I feel like Hes to easy in this game I played MVC2 and comparing MVC2 magneto to MVC3 is almost laughable ) I mean I guess since ive been playing zero for a year now all his shit is Easy for me and MAYBE for other people its tough, Viper takes MAJOR work… shes on my Secondary Team ( Sent,Vipe,Storm ) and her Execution takes much more then any other character honestly. I feel like Dante takes amazing Execution and Creativity, Chun li takes a bit of work but she can be braindead once you have her down.

When it comes to Zero and His execution I feel like most people mean his Buster combos because people have a hard time Button switching without releasing it on accident. Im honestly more Concerned with his Bugs/Glitches because he has a few that ive been trying to Exploit ( Guard Breaks and Solo Unblockables )

Buster is pretty much useless in sougenmu DHC glitch combos until the end of them where if you dont kill the opp (like thor or tron) you can lv3 air buster, :l: hienkyaku into rekkouha. Otherwise I dont bother unless my Zero is on point, then you must be charging all the time

I still don’t get why people do buster into hienkyaku before Rekkoha when buster into sentsuizan then Rekkoha is always better ~_~.

I really think some people are going to be changing their opinions of the buster soon… ^^
(It might have something to do with killing Thor anywhere on screen, even with your back to the corner, with no net meter loss >_>)…

because Ive been playing zero for just 1 week? lol

I mean buster is good and all but in a dhc glitch its useless. Buster should only be charged during combo and in a zone war

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The time it takes for a Buster to charge fully renders it useless in a ‘zoning’ war. The Buster IMHO should always be charged no matter the circumstance as it nets you a free combo from almost any distance on the screen. Not to mention it beats out a ton of stuff. Any good Zero user will ALWAYS be charging the Buster. If you’re not charging Buster at any time except when you’re getting hit, you’re gimping yourself on one of Zero’s best moves.

The buster is Zero’s best move. Whatever combination of moves you lose by holding :l: or :m: - Buster is better than all of them combined.

I always charge with :l:, as c.:m: is a damn good move.

Same, except I will sometimes switch to :m: so I can fake out with a jump into instant :l: hienkyaku into a low hit for mixup. I switch charge buttons a lot really, even outside of combo.

I would like to see you post a combo video in which you do Magneto’s ROM/Magnetic Blast/Hypergrav loops and do 1m+ without Xfactor. I will take you seriously then.

By the way, you don’t lose options by charging the Buster. You can charge with any of the three buttons and freely switch between them. By not charging the buster, you LOSE many, many options, combo opportunities, and punish opportunities. You will never convince any good Zero player otherwise.

It can be done without XF…Just needs a lvl3 hyper…

Or just dhc glitch… is say more but I’m at work and I don’t need your approval. I’ll post more later but idk why your Dick is inside magneto and trying to convince me this game is hard.

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Hey, if you can’t do it, then you can’t talk. Hard-headed players like yourself tend to be the ones that never develop and get better. If you want to play the game at a lower level, do Sesame Street combos and gimp your characters by not using their tools, then whatever, dude. I don’t actually care.

If you don’t care then shut the Fuck up. I’ll play however I wanna play. Do you even compete ? Idc who you are sesame street combos work so why try harder just to show off ? Fucken scrub come see me at evo

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Haiku has a point, even if some people strongly disagree with it. Zero can play reasonably well with no buster charging as a rushdown character with high priority normals. With the right DHCs and assists, damage output shouldn’t be a problem. Just watch some of Justin Wong’s old footage, he doesn’t charge at all and just utilizes basic pokes and mixups to win.

However, IMO proper buster usage and charging is what takes Zero from a upper-mid tier rushdown character with mediocre damage output to a top character who can fight in any range, and turn any random shots or pokes into a full combo ending in the corner for heavy damage.

If you’re just picking him, he has many tools outside of buster to be viable, it’s just that his buster is his strongest, so barring execution there’s no reason not to use it.

first, idk why are you all discussing magneto here.

2nd, mvc3 magneto is certainly NOT easy, but also not as hardcore as MvC2, even sanford said Magneto players didnt win tournaments in MvC2 with the exception of Yipes and Chris Schmith.

third: buster should be charged at ALL times, I also do it during DHC glitch just in case my opp doesnt die and I need to use it to get rekkouha. If he dies, fine, I got alv3 charge ready for the incoming character, Ive lost count of how many times the opp comes in throwing a normal only to get shot by lv3 buster into another combo. its too good to NOT charge buster all the time.

my 2 cents

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