EVERYONE, since his bandwidth is getting raped and it’s costing him TONS of money, then download all the shit from CV and put it up on GoForBroke.
Win/Win! He doesn’t have to go in the hole, and people can still get their vids for free!
If speeds an issue, then pay for the vids, if it’s not, GoForBroke.
EDIT: No, I don’t think he should lose money, but I don’t think charging for vids (that used to be free, or can be had for free elsewhere) is right either. And don’t spout that “YOU’RE PAYING FOR BANDWIDTH” BS, because thats what it is. You’re paying to download videos, that take up space. Thats why I think GoForBroke (or another P2P type server with people from the SF scene helping out everyone) is the best answer.
The bandwidth is free, but only from people that happen to be on. I’m not saying it’s bad, but i don’t believe the file sharing model works for everything. There are times i can go there and look for one vid and it’s not there, or the person has 23342342 queues taken with stuff that is only marginally fighting game related, etc… on CV’s model I go, download, the end. CV’s drawback is that it’s paid and that the selection is 100% up to CV for better or worse.
Another difference is the policing, if i don’t want my vid on the hub, is there an effective way of determining who is sharing it and removing them from the hub? I would think it would be hard to stop someone from ripping the newest DVD and calling it something else on DC and then gg to any chance of future HQ, well produced footage.
In filesharing all the problems come back on the hub/server owner ultimately, and since they aren’t getting paid, they are less likely to take that sort of stress. So there are pros and cons to each, and all i can say is that we’re a lot better off stilll than we were years ago, thanks to the people that run the various sites and servers on the net, and we should be trying to improve on the faults, not tear everyone else down.
ok ok , what was once free … well EVERYTHING is free in the internet come on who doesnt pirate something on the net , but as for this think about it EVO DVD is what 30-40 a disc but we still pay for it cause its on dvd , the money goes to the ability for have more of the tourny matchs in the future same goes with CV he has so many videos its insane and to have that many video and having as many people that do just leech like crazy he cant afford to have thousands apon thousands of people sucking up his bandwidth with out his ISP going WTF … give me more money u SOB .
nothing more annoying than sitting in a queue for hours on end and then he goes offline never to be seen again where as CV is constant always there reliable and damn good speed .
You don’t understand. YOU are paying to download combo vids. HE is using that money to pay for bandwidth/cheese fries/whatever, thats not the point.
Everyone that pays for that site, is paying so they can download combo vids, not pay for the bandwidth.
Like I said, I don’t think he should be broke, but charging for vids seems wrong. And thats what it is. I’m not saying he’s a money grubbing little whore, I’m just saying it feels odd, thats all.
It costs the people who make their vids time/money as well, but you don’t pay them a fee, because they are doing it for the scene. I’m just saying that PAYING for vids that were once free, and can be found elsewhere with a little looking, feels odd. I know he’s not just asking for free money, I know it goes to the costs of running that site, but it just. feels. wrong.
He has a great service, and if it’s worth it to you, you should get it.
And saying that he wouldn’t host anymore of kofiends vids because he thought different then him, is retarded.
what he’s doing costs alot more than recording a vid
I should know cuz i made one and it cost my friend next to nothing and it costed me zero except man hours.
I think it’s wrong that you think everything he does should be a 100% charity case
you do’nt have a right to ask for that, if you have a ethical conflict that’s a personal thing but if you want to convince us of that why don’t you go in depth and explain why
you don’t ask western union to waive their fee of transferring money do you
or how about asking your computer technician to fix your computer for free since it doesn’t cost him anything extra.
it’s not exactly the same but it’s close enough
you think he should do everything for the scene but that’s a personal decision
and the funny thing is HE IS DOING IT FOR THE SCENE
but what he’s doing costs alot more than anyone can be expected to take on by themselves
Have you ever heard of fileplanet? Try downloading a file from there. If you want to not have to wait in line they have a paid membership option - and these videos are all submitted by users for public download. Check the terms of use on sites
As I said, it’ not a money maker, rather something to keep the site alive. And although you mentioned you enjoy the service, if everyone thought like you did - there wouldn’t be a service to enjoy.
You need to realize that I AM doing this for the scene as well as it’s something I really enjoy.
Check out an earlier project http://addictz.darktemplarz.com That’s another site that I along with Sinala and Battousai built from the ground up. Basically we were the first ones to hosting a ton of kaillera match videos as well as combos from members on the Dark Addictz team. Some of the stuff on there is just for fun, but it was mostly intended just for our own team vs. large scale distribution.
About the comment regarding kofiend, he has IMed me quite a # of times within the last few months to get his videos hosted. If he felt that way he could have just IMed me and discussed this with me and I could have cleared things up for him. However, I realize this IS a forum and that’s cool and if he wants to stop sending his own stuff that’s fine, however the bit about “let’s stop sending him our shit” was unnecessary :lame: - and I will thus not host any of his stuff from now on without an apology.
For those who haven’t checked already, eidrian made a crazy update on the front page. Check it out.
P.S. Everytime I type a response 80% of it is rehashed stuff I’ve said before. So for those that are too lazy to read this whole thread before they post, I’m just going to start copying and pasting my previous posts to save time.
if someone used your house for storage and after you did them the favor they had the nerve to talk shit about how you did them this favor wouldn’t you think a apology is in order?
he is doing us a favor but if you can’t get that i don’t know what to say
you are just trying to find a scape goat or something
when your friend takes you to mc donalds and buys you a meal. Do you get mad when he gets a extra large mc flurry for himself and doesn’t get you one?
I’m sorry if I’m sounding rude but your acting ridiculously
edit: btw if you think he does this to get a ego stroke i think your wrong
he can find a much bigger audience than a fighting game forum if he wanted to draw attention to himself
I may not know blaze but you don’t either so I don’t think that kinda stuff is called for
Lots of good stuff coming up soon. Those SFA3 videos will be replaced with full matches, tons of GGX and GGXX#R videos on the way, SF3, ST matches/combos, EX videos, and a few surprises so stay tuned.
If someone is forcing you to pay for shit that THEY DIDN’T MAKE AND THE AUTHORS AIN’T GETTING PAID, or someone else ORGINALLY SOLD AND THEY AIN’T GETTING NO MONEY, it’s wrong… pirating is one thing, but this is even more heinous. It’s like people charging money for FAQs or those websites charging for Kazzaa.
But if they’re offering to everyone, but giving special service to donators… i don’t see the problem really? After reading some posts, it seems like a hairy issue.
This topic sorta brings up a lot of ethical twisters… Ok, let’s say I’m Daigo. Some dude on a website is charging people money to pay for vids of me playing. Shouldn’t I get something? Ok, maybe he’s not making a profit, but still… I have a right to complain no? …and if he does make a profit, should I get some?
I have always wondered how players felt about this… Especially the ones who DON’T win the pots. I know it’s all for the betterment of the community and scene, but, there is an issue there right? IF the people involved are making a profit, I guess it all depends of how much you think the effort, organization, and distribution of this shit is worth… ?
too bad u didn’t the brains to figure it out before you clicked “SUBMIT POST”. All this “SPAM” as you call it is showing up because people are genuinely passionate about CV. If you don’t have a clue, STFU.
The last thing we need is some ignorant person like you pissing off blazed and having him take down CV.
They charge for both FAQs and Kazaa in that sense, they both have ads instead of charging you directly. The difference is that the FAQs are submitted by the owners voluntarily, and the programs on Kazaa are not.
But this isn’t about money, it’s about distribution, who says that any video should be distributed on any medium without specific permission? for free or for money? Thats the issue your really talking about, and i’m not sure we can really answer that. We would have to determine and contact the owner of every SF vid before it’s seen on DC,torrent,IRC,CV,etc… as it applies everywhere.
