In fairness I’m not really a fan of her and really didn’t like her at first and felt she had no place in BB just based on her design.
Her BBCP VA is so fucking awful. Shit will be getting muted instantly.
Has anyone heard the English VA for her in Cp yet?
They haven’t even announced an English version yet?
I will reserve judgement until then.
Hopefully they keep the same VA. Her CP JP one is easily the worst I’ve ever head for real.
Sena is tolerable, Luna gives me ear cancer.
And Noel is just terrible.
Valk is rare mostly, I think, because he requires a certain amount of effort to learn to play effectively, and a mediocre Valk is, truthfully, a pretty terrible Valk. I can easily see people getting discouraged with him. Also, frankly, he’s not NEARLY as cool as I wanted him to be when they first announced him - most of his moves just don’t look interesting. On the other hand, I like Platinum because I think she is HILARIOUS. In addition to being a very good shout-out to a massive archetype. Valk, on the other hand, just more-or-less completely rips off one stupid move that didn’t even make much sense on its original character (Talbain Torpedo, whut? Since when do wolves/werewolves have some natural affinity for balling themselves up and flying through the air like a comet?).
That said, clearly not everyone agrees with me, because I think Tsubaki’s hat is awesome. All seeing eye for the win.
How? Her design fits completely.
Don’t ask. I had this conversation a while ago and the answer is apparently “Because she doesn’t fit”.
How almost anyone can fail to fit in a weird-anime-archetype-mashup game escapes me somewhat, but hey.
:eek: Platinum is the best I’m not sure what the discussion is about
Unless it’s about how amazing Hakumen is
I am all about that discussion
Well, no that’s actually not why. Every other character is based around having something that would realistically enable them to fight be it training, swords, guns, ginormous cyborg muscles, razor claws, science, etc, an at least came across relatively warrior worthy with their movesets and design. You could argue that Platinum is in there as comic relief, but clearly we already have Taokaka and Bang for that, and their source of comic relief is far different from hers. In a game world where everyone’s trying to kill everyone with giant weapons and lightning and vampires and stuff, some 10 year old girl with MPD, hearts for eyes, some weird outfit that is most likely there purely to mock a stereotype (which I can get and understand the desire to do in some way), with all unicorns and cat hammers and stuff seems to make little sense in how it could be in place to me, is all.
Every character in that game is unique in that game, they all don’t really fit.
I mean, Carl can fight with Nirvana but Plat can’t fight with a huge hammer?
I’m pretty sure she was trained by Jubei somewhere down the line, which is probably a thousand times better than that NOL vigilante bullshit training Carl got.
Also, Bang is the weakest in universe, how does he keep getting shot by guns, cut by swords, and hit with magic even though he himself is a normal human and should just die after the first two or three attacks, even more so that characters like Sol or Jin or even freaking Taokaka don’t have any hesitation when it comes to killing in combat?
Let’s not try to use logic here, let’s just watch a loli fly away on a unicorn as a win pose.
Hakumen’s changes were just one giant troll, through and through. They nerfed Zantetsu’s damage, but buffed it’s proration. They nerfed his 6D’s start-up, but gave it like a 40% proration buff. Nerf his throw damage by 200, but buff it by giving it stagger properties. Nerf hotaru’s damage by 300, buff it’s P1 by 20%. Nerf mugen mode, but allow it to be augmented by OD. The only significant nerf he got was the renka bonus proration nerf on the first hit in my opinion.
I completely agree with your statement about average Valky’s being terrible, Airk. Non-proper utilization of wolf mode leads to a terrible Valky. About some of his special moves, they seem to inferior versions of Hakumen’s. Specifically referring to the comparison between Valky’s nacht jager and Hakumen’s gurren (gurren is +1 on block and has better recovery, slightly less damage). Valky’s schwarz jagd~weis jagd is almost identical to Hakumen’s renka except a completely inferior version (they both have bonus proration on the first hit, thing is, Valky has to actually rapid for it to be applicable. Renka starts up in 9 frames, while Schwarz Jagd start’s up in 22. Renka is +1 on block while Weis Jagd is -13). Lastly, Vaky’s mondlicht and Hakumen’s hotaru are extremely similar in terms of the animation, Valky’s is inferior though. And to top it off, they all share the same input. I really love Valky’s 5C, 6B, Himmel Wolf, j.C, and Schwarz Jagd~Weis Jagd animations though.
I’m not trying to bitch too much (even though that is what this thread is essentially about) but I really hate what they did with Valky in CP. I truly do. He is quite literally the only cast member that didn’t receive a new special move, the only new move that they gave him was a normal (which they had to do to supplement for the w.5A not hitting low nerf, because not having a low in wolf mode would have been completely absurd). While other characters got new special moves, normals, supers, etc. Heck, I’m pretty sure that they gave Litchi a new normal, 2 new special moves, and a new super. They nerfed all the key aspects about Valky. They nerfed his meter gain, his damage output immensely, his mix-up, and his wolf mode regen, and some of his normal’s gatlings. I’m a pretty reasonable person when it comes to these things, but he got nerfed way too much. He needed a damage nerf, he needed a meter nerf, he needed a mix-up nerf (which they did by making w.5A not hit low) but he did not need a wolf regen nerf, and he certainly didn’t deserve such an immense damage nerf. And getting rid of a lot of his gatlings was equally as irritating (and yes, I realize that they did open some new ones up). His new corner combos look way easier now since converting into 7CD>j.C>2.A>5.B>2.C isn’t possible off of a good portion of his confirms, and they look way lamer.
I’ll main this character regardless of what happens to him, regardless of tier, and regardless of ease of use. However, he is currently looking like a completely inferior version of Extend Valky with little to nothing added to the character in terms of new moves in order to make him feel fresh (in comparison to the rest of the cast who actually got new and interesting shit).
I truly hope that I am being completely pre-mature about everything stated thus far, I really do.
Well, what grinds my gears right now about BB is I had a couple of decent games against a Lambda on ranked that went by the PSN “Baiken_Sama” that I swear was on here and/or Dustloop but I can’t remember the account name.
Noel is adorable. You shut your whore mouth.
Again, there is really no point in arguing about things that are subjective like this. You can say that apples are crunchier then oranges, thus making them better. I can say that orange’s are juicer, thus making them better. But at the end of the day none of it means shit because you still like apples and I still like oranges.
Whiny bitch is whiny. Not for me.
+1 for Noel being a terrible character.
translation: she doesn’t have muscles, a karate gi, guns and i’m not secure with myself. i must always look tough.