"We finished practicing now?" Cody Match-up Thread

MK ruffian kick works as well.

Because reversals and max punishing with them are what define top level play compared to just casual average play. If you can squeeze out a guaranteed 30+ extra dmg, you wanna do it unless we’re talking of course cl.mp, c.fp which i cannot fucking hit to save my damn life. Everything else is pretty straightforward. Cody is a lot more solid imo then peopel give him credit for, especially the more i play him. Rocks especially are really good considering recovery is way more important than startup. Fake rocks are just gdlk as well.

Everything on that list can be punished by something. and if you can’t hit the one frame link Crouching Fierce + Fierce Criminal upper is pretty much one of the strongest non 1 frame link, no meter punishers in the game for opponents who make mistakes upclose. Crouching fierce has deceptively long range. Honestly though you’re coming in here asking if DP’s can be punished and then telling me what high level play is is pretty ridiculous. I didn’t assume that’s what you were asking because it’s just such a stupid question.

Ex zonk FADC crack kick into ex criminal upper is a pretty good punish in a lot of reversal situations. But of course you have to have a full bar.

Where did i ask if dp’s can be punished? I asked if DP’s can reversal max range lp CU and max range zonk. I don’t really care about reversaling other characters, as I have most character frame disadvantages committed to memory already since I?ve played SF4 since vanilla release. What I asked for were specific answers to range related punishes against and with Cody because frame data cannot answer those types of questions. Only testing can, and I was at work when writing my post.

And yes, I also know that c.fp xx fp cu is the best non-meter punish at 260. And I know c.fp has deceptive range along with c.lk, f+mp, s.hk and c.mp. They?re all very good normals for different reasons. That?s why I think Cody has potential and am attempting to learn him even though I already do pretty well in tournament with Honda.

Did you even read my post at all or did you just glance at it and give a regurgitated response you give to all people who ask scrubby questions? My questions are sometimes obvious (cuz I can?t test them myself currently), but aren?t really scrubby so maybe you should stop acting like a douche.

In regards to ex rock, c.hp xx hk RK, fadc, CK, EX CU, i was asking if it’s only level 3 and not level 2. I know you can get ch c.fp xx ex rock into whatever cause you have an hour to link whatever you want at +15 or something retarded like that. However, when i did ex rock, c.hp with a level 2 focus, I kept hitting the training dummy airborne and was wondering if this was character specific or just impossible with level 2 FA.

you just have to be faster to hit them before focus crumble.

Yeah I think Cody is easily one of the most underrated characters in the game… Sorry for being a douche, honestly it’s not a regurgitated response because I hardly ever respond, but when I saw that 20 question long list I couldn’t help but think wow this guy is nuts lol.

I prefer to ask a lot of questions at once instead of asking a whole bunch of random questions here and there. Keeps things organized. Thank you for your responses.

In terms of bad spray, does it break any oki setups in any match-ups? Like for example, does it stop hop mixup or kunai mixup at all? It seems to have some weird ass hitbox just like U2 and hits ridiculously high up. Most people don’t even know how to execute it, yet i see i8600011 use it constantly.

Does cody have any anti-crossups like shoto c.fp cause b+mp keeps missing close jump-ins/crossups?

Does EX CU have invulnerability on it? And if so, does it extend into the hitting portion of it? I ex cu’d a final atomic buster last nite and got confused. Wiki says nothing.

Is there anything that stops rufus dive kick shenanigans cause that shit is bad :mad:?

I think I’m good with questions after this set thank you.

So I was just playing and did a HK rufian through a sakura fireball. I have read through these threads and don’t recall ever seeing that, so I took a (crappy) video and posted it.

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Ok sorry guys back again Im gonnahit up this thread and update the info. With stuff I discovered and some of the you guys have been posting.

  1. I feel like the risk reward factor with bad spray is soo bad you’re better off just guessing and blocking. Bad spray has so much recovery on it that it seems like it’s never worth using to be honest. Maybe here and there it’s ok to throw out as a suprise but in general this move is ass.

  2. EX Criminal upper is throw invincible but not attack invincible.

  3. HK ruffian shits all over divekicks from rufus.

i started to use bad spray rather often (not abused or frequently but more often), and it’s a valid option for any frontal jump in attack or late crossup aswell as any meaty or overhead attemp. proper used it’s a great move.

also, ex cu HAS some invincibility, but they wear off before the active frames start.

low dive kick should come out before hk ruffian, hence stuffing it.

if the dive kicks aren’t meaty, s. jab works every time, it will either trade or will hit him out of the air clean

^^ I just learned something new. Thanks Carbo.

Standing jabs aren’t the best way to beat Rufus’ dive kicks. The best way to do it is to option select crouch tech with cr.mp for really low dive kicks and cr.hp for slightly higher ones. Also EX CU and HK RK are good choices for beating them (use each move as Rufus is going up for another dive kick, not as he’s coming down). If the Rufus starts to use high dive kicks to beat your options simply jump back and use any normal.

Im not saying standing jab isn’t useful against him, it’s just if he goes for a throw you’ll get caught whereas with option select crouch tech you will tech it.

Packz93

So I was in training mode VS blanka. It seems that you cant block Hori ball and punish it mid to full without have U2, But you can punish it MK/HK Ruffian if blocked from blanka doing ball in the corner. This blanka matchup seems like its probabaly one of codys worst, in regards to spacing. Basically to me it seems like you just want to keep him out at all times.

^wrong.

you’ve to stand while blocking and you’ll be able to punish it with lk and ex ruffian aswell.

call me newb, but when you say OS crouch tech with c.mp, do you mean that the input looks like: (cr.lp) + (cr.lk) + (cr.mp)

yess

Plink cr.mp before cr.lp+cr.lk

Correct me if im wrong zUkUu…

no need to plink it

you just press them all at the same time