Here is one of my replays vs Sagat…might help you guys. Haven’t played many Sagats online yet. BTW
how to the japanese cody’s have 7k on ps3 already? I can’t find anyone to get points off of after level b.
[media=youtube]q8740p44Y1Q[/media]
it did but i have a few questions,was this rose slide happy or did she slide at alll,and if so how did u deal with it?
first off id like to say good ish,i like the slide under the tiger knees im going to use that.i have a few tips though.tic grab more,cody has easy crouch jab setups simalar to boxers and it will add a whole new dimention to your mixup game and you can mind f**k them on wake up. your opponent wont know weather to block for cr.lp,lp,mp,CU or try n tech you. also you could manage a few over heads in there some time.also fwd rh is good against people who like to low poke and sweep alot.you will spin right over their poke and hit them or either whiff and you can go for the grab. your match was awesome though,Respect.u have alot more patience than me.i find myself rushing down blindly and getting owned by tiger shots/uppercuts
She didn’t slide much. I will take her to the training room with Cody later today, but I’m pretty sure cr. mk stuffs it if you time it right. There was a lot of moves the cr. mk was stuffing so quickly that I couldn’t even see if she was attempting to slide, or do something else. I’ll post my results against her later. I’ll also test some of the other stuff rumored in this thread.
what? lk ruffian and even ex ruffian (juggles to ex CU) beats blocked balls (have to be standing, crouched sometimes works but the lk ruffian sometimes reaches and soemtimes doesnt, very wonky so just stand)
U2 also beats blocked balls standing and crouching, the only diff is u cant do it as a reversal, u need to wait until the ball has retracted back and is about to land to start the ultra so it doesnt juggle
its better to just take the hit on a ball then unleash the fury that is LDD!
iight son
is that so. i tryed it for 15min while blocking low lol
for what? U2? just buffer the motion during blockstun and press 3p like a second later, or just walk forward a lil bit then do the U2 motion
if u mean the lk ruffian its weird sometimes it will hit sometimes not, better to just leave it alone if u were blocking low
no i meant for lk.ruffian lol i try and use ultra 2 but the sand juggles and then they hit the ground.then the blanka ultras on wake up b4 i can block again.can you get full ulta animation from punish blanka ball ultra II?
yea u can get full ultra if u learn the timing, just dont pull the u2 right away wait like a second or just use visual cues to pull it off, for me i start the ultra when the ball has retracted back and is falling down, the ultra will hit him as he just lands
the porblem with this is sometimes the damn 1st hit after the dust completely whiffs but the other subsequent attacks come out…of course by then the guys blocking and is salivating to himself on getting a free ultra punish lol
i havnt missed if i got hit by a ball tho so just take the hit if u can
ok…back to training mode lol.i need to practice the unblockable anyway
iv only gotten the unblockable once in like 50 attempts lol its really strict timing and i even tried to make it easier with ex rocks since it crosses up and u have time to get the LDD out and it does work…i just dont know the timing down pat yet…its alot easier to just cross em up with the rocks instead of using the LDD for an unblockable and just followup the rocks with an ex ruffian or a jump in
hopefully someone finds a reliable setup that doesnt require the opp to quickstand
@Arkayne: Some random tid-bits for the Sagat Match-up.
Personally, I think he’s free.
c.fierce xx Ruffian(:lk: or :mk: only)
Beats High-Tiger Shot from pretty much mid-screen if your reaction is good. Anywhere close-mid is just free damage+knockdown. Free 220/350(DMG/Stun).
c.fierce and st.fierce trade or get flat out beat by Sagat’s j.strong, stick to b.strong and st.roundhouse for solid anti-airs. They’ll hit clean and beat him every time.
If you’re willing to spend the meter for a little extra punish, you can drop :hk: Ruffian anti-air, combo it into EX Ruffian, EX Criminal. Think it does some shit like 319/4XX? Dunno, I’ll get the numbers in a bit.
c.forward(slide) EATS Tiger Knee. Shit is just easy.
j.fierce will extend over Sagat’s st.Roundhouse and hit him at the top of the head clean.
c.Fierce xx Ruffian counter-poke if Sagat likes to footsie with st.Roundhouse from Close-Mid. st.Fierce will tag him from farther away on his recovery from st.Roundhouse.
LDD, U2, Last Dread Dust, etc. is amazing in this match-up. From punish potential alone you only force him to do Low-Tiger Shots, which are free Ultras. Not that he should be throwing them out freely, of course. But should the situation arise, he’ll have less recovery for those with poor reaction.
There’s some more things I’ll type out later when I get home.
Sagat just hasn’t proven to be a problem for me, at all. It’s a close-mid footsie game that he just loses, BAD.
There’s just too much free damage going in for Cody. With the reduction in damage dealt by Sagat as well as the other changes. Just not as scary to play this match with a lot of confidence.
A short note on the rose match up, you can bingo between c.mp and soul spiral but you have to time it pretty late.
Edit: Just tested it and it doesn’t seem to work on lk version unless she’s a little further away from you, like at the end of a block string.
my problem is that im having trouble getting in through tiger shots but now that im mastering LDD and i found that tiger knee gets raped by cr.mk im good cuz once i get close i rush das ish down and get all up in dat ass lol
when your in close and predict a sonic boom slide on reaction poke with C.lp and C.mp if you predict a focus attack or see guile crouching do your overhead
Honda: Get full screen against him and bait headbutts. Block headbutt and do a medium ruffian kick to punish him constantly.
Blanka: If you land a knock down then try to do a light ruffian kick on a blanka as it should punish them if they pick to do a ball instead of block on wake up.
Dhalsim: Down + Medium kick to do the slide is a great way to get in on Dhalsim. If he does air long arm poke and you are on the ground sliding it usually punishes if you are under them, or they whiff, OR you trade. Either way you can start to back him to a corner fast using a mix up game of this and zonks to avoid fireballs.
Sagat: You can close up space on Sagat with down medium kick as well if he is doing high tiger shots as you will slide under them. If he starts to spam low ones you have quick hops you can do to get closer to try and bait the knee or uppercut to punish him.
Ryu/Ken: If they do a hurricane kick down + medium kick slide will punish or go under neath. Zonk timed right can go through fireballs. Back + medium punch should prevent most jump in attempts. Ex Rocks go through ex/normal fireballs. Ex Ruffian Kick goes through Ryus Ultra 1. If Ken does Ultra 2 and you follow with Ultra 2, Ken wins out due to the sand not touching him as he’s off the ground.
Makoto: Is free as free can get. Back up, throw rocks, punish jump ins, and throw in some light ruffian kicks when they get desperate to try and close up space.
Fei Long: Also very free. Try using criminal uppers often to prevent his ground game entirely if he’s trying to do his QCF + P to reach you fast. You can also punish with ruffian kicks when he attempts this.
Claw: Still unsure about this fight as I lose to most due to my lack of Claw experience. Cross ups are essential if you get a knock down. If he does his back flip try to do sliding medium kick once or twice to punish him before he can defend.
Juri: Try to avoid throwing rocks if possible as her dive kick will punish you for it everytime. Focus on sliding medium kicks as they punish her pinwheels. Zonks also tend to punish her pinwheels.
Guile/Dee Jay: Still a hard fight if they keep you out. Dee Jay is a bit more manageable as crossing him up is safer it seems. Not sure if the hit boxes are different on flash kick/Dee Jays somersault jump or whatever it’s called, but crossing up Guile after knock down gets me smacked usually.
Zangief/T.Hawk: It seems scoring the knife off the ground against these guys helps you out considerably. The extra range should keep you out of command grab reach. Rocks against Zangief are great, and hard ruffian kick punishes him easy on jump ins. If he knocks you down you need to get out of there ASAP as the command grabs can finish you up fast. I save EX for Ex Ruffians in case I mess up so I can get up and out.
Cammy: Can be a pain if she knocks you down.(Most characters are lol) light Ruffian kicks if I remember right get priority on her spiral arrows or else will trade.
Ibuki: Light ruffian kicks beat out neck breakers if timed correctly.
Hakan: Free. Just have to low block and you are in control of the fight. Throw rocks to keep the range between you and him to bait him into his slide so you can either block and punish or light ruffian kick to beat it out.
Balrog: Cody has armor break on several abilities. This helps to deal with balrogs Ex punches so he can’t focus absorb your retaliation. If the Balrog you fight isn’t getting off head butt often or at all, abuse your neutral jump hard punch over head. This can lead to a lot of combos, and neutral jump hard punch + Ultra 2 combos if timed out right.
That’s about all I can think of off the top of my head.
vs ryu
if you predict crouch medium kick stand right beyond its range and use fwd.rh it will whiff and will put you in range for a grab
Rushdown dictator owns my nigga Cody Fray =(
Cant even EX zonk cr.lk on getup.
backdash is ass…its just too fray.
Against Abel, you can stop his U2 on Startup with ex Ruffian