WCG Ultimate Gamer season 2 (with Justin Wong + Tekken 6)

I can handle the drama (because I like watching it) and “real life” competitions. But when they play the game, just play the game.

If this is addressed to me, you misread my post.

I was responding to Shin Oni.

Hello, Real World! Thank you for trolling the wrestling world with The Miz! Real World works because it’s gimmick is entirely its SUPER-AMPLIFIED drama. Great example of drama as a gimmick. Real World also casts much more, let’s say, “characterized” people than a gamer cast can bring. More extremes in character available when dealing with general people, whereas gamers are typically more straightforward, focused, and TV-boring. But this is just straying into semantics.

Point is, a show like WCGUG is nowhere near as drama-heavy as something like Real World, so their challenge gimmicks are there to keep things fresh. I mean, you can take ALL of the “drama” from this season, bunch it together, and it would match like 1/4th of one episode of Real World drama.

Aww you have are noticed.

Sorry I don’t “troll” you claimed that “drama alone can get old” im just commenting on real world that it doesn’t. The reality show formulas dwells upon drama. The extremes in character can work as well in this show. Once ceaser started being a dick the show got a bit more interesting. Holding a controller behind your back isn’t as intriguing in comparison to the drama.

considering this is geared towards college guys and the gamer girls in their teens and up, I don’t think gimmicks like playing with a straitjacket and hands cuffed behind you to drive is what’s really bringing in the views. If you look back in this thread alone, what’s everyone most likely talking about? It’s not the games. Definately not the gimmicks considering the forza and splinter cell challenge was the only actual gimmicks used in any of the games. (correct me if i’m wrong as i’ve missed like 1-2 earlier episodes.)

Most of the people wathing this show are watching to cheer on someone.

How come all your posts in here, have you trying to state your opinions as fact?

i’m not stating them as fact. I’m just seeing it from my opinion. Just like every other person has been trying to do in the past 2 pages.

I guess it’s just the way you’ve been wording your last couple of posts, that started rubbing me the wrong way. It was just sounding to me, like you think you know everything.

Some of the other stuff you’ve been saying, I agree with, like when you got on Frankfurt for trying to discredit Justin for no reason.

The show doesn’t really care about determining an “Ultimate Gamer”, or “Best Gamer”. You could be the best gamer in the world, but suck at anything physical via real life challenges, and never get 1st place in any week. Then you play against the computer. It’s like whoever put the show together has no idea what a modern day gamer is or does. You go through two different irrelevant “challenges” and if you do poorly in these, you finally get to do the 1v1 against a human opponent. But even if you did great in the irrelevant “challenges” but not 1st, you could still be on the chopping block with someone who did horribly. And yes, playing the CPU is irrelevant. All that is is lousy practice at best. The show doesn’t care about gaming hardly at all. There’s maybe what, like 5 minutes total each episode of actual gameplay?

IMO, if there was an actual show that really did determine who the best gamer was, that would be something worth watching. They could still add in some drama and gimmicks, just not in actual important shit.

I like the show though, it’s at least related to gaming. It just doesn’t do what it says it does, find the “ultimate gamer”.

Now I want to see them put Forza in evo for laughs. Why didn’t you practice your Fozra? ;_; Maybe you should lock yourself in your room and play nothing but Gran Turismo and Forza for a year. You’ll be a natural when you get an actual license :stuck_out_tongue:

Speaking of Rachael, what was her specialty supposed to be? She seemed pretty terrible in everything.

The idea in and of itself is just plain retarded. You don’t take Michael Jackson and Tiger Woods and throw them into a Curling competition. Being the “Ultimate Gamer” as this show sees it is absolutely worthless everywhere else. You don’t win tournaments by being above average at multiple genres.

PS: Arena did the competitive aspect 500% better than this show. It still wasn’t very interesting.

Justin didn’t get first in many of the video game challenges but outside of the fps je wasn’t carried or anything.
Took top 3 in tekken, tied for 7th out of 11 in wii sports, 2nd in nhl, took 5th in racing (did better than Ceasar), was last for PC FPS, won smackdown vs raw, and won pacman.

From the video game parts of the show he’s done fairly well for himself and outside of the FPS hasn’t been in last for anything. Had he done better in the real life challenges/gimmicks he would have gotten a higher overall ranking.

Be careful not to confuse fact with opinion here. While it is certainly true drama is big in the reality show formula, the drama works when the cast has “characters” capable of keeping the drama fires burning, or when there is something else (ala gimmicks) in the show to mix with the drama and keep things from getting boring.

WCGUG does not have extreme characters. The closest S1 had was Ciji, and the closest S2 had was Chosen1. Neither of which hold a candle to the average Real World cast member in regards to drama. To put it a bit bluntly, gamers tend to carry themselves with some degree of sense and tend not to have as many screws loose as the average reality show cast member. Having sense and not having many screws loose is boring for a reality show. This is why the gimmicks is good for this show.

Take away the gimmicks on this show, add more drama, and what do you get? More Pentagon secret plotting? More AJ/Faye love fails? More Ceez to da Deez (Caesar) trash-talking? Caesar may be cool to let loose and get some magic from, but the others are likely to get old without extra elements in the mix. The cast carries themselves too well for drama to really take off. Caesar/Jake insults would not lead into a fight, Faye would not slap AJ, Justin would not randomly do something illogical or go off the deep end, Rachel would not put out to someone in the house then cry over a lack of love, etc., etc.

Now, while you, personally, may prefer seeing Caesar tell Jake he’s f***ing garbage in COD, a group of other casual viewers may prefer seeing the EPIC DRIVING FAILS of Justin and Ryan. While you may like seeing “I stole your boyfriend” drama between Kat and Vanessa, a group of other casual viewers may like seeing how the gamers react to the spinning mirrors. Point is, both drama and gimmicks play a part in drawing an audience, and it is unfair to generalize one as more important than the other across the reality show board, since the value varies according to the cast and style of a show. And here, gimmicks are just as valuable as drama since the show does not have a cast capable of high drama.

I miss Arena for laughs. If just for the hosts alone. But yea I agree that it did do things a lot better considering half of the people on there where PC FPS guys…only to see them play shit like Burnout and CvS2 after a CTF run.

Pretty sure Justin did practice Forza. But when you have handicaps set against you that alter the way you’re supposed to play, your practice kinda goes out the window. Add the fact he can’t drive already and it was only a matter of time.

and Rachel’s specialty was shooters. (Team Fortress 2 IIRC) someone said earlier in the thread that she’s a pretty legit medic player.

Me and my wife were rooting for you Justin haha, ah well, I guess every BEAST has his achilles heel. GL at SB5.

lol @ justin still losing when yaz was rolling on the floor with the steering wheel flying all over the place. it wouldve sucked if yaz was to be eliminated that round since he was one of the elites throughout the show but he pulled it off. in those circumstances, it was expected for justin to lose. he was put in the worst possible position of not knowing how to drive in real life and in handcuffs/straight jacket. LOL.

the only way this show would be entertaining if there wasnt gimmicks is if they actually had alot of drama in the house. if something like kat slept with yaz for him not to throw her in samsung but caesar was trying to get with kat wouldve been entertaining. Caesar did make things entertaining by being a character and in everyones face.

i hope theyll have another known player from the FG community next season otherwise i wont know anyone on that show and will not tune in.

Jwong not knowing how to drive in real life shouldn’t affect his performance in a racing game. There are plenty of people that are good at racing games that have never driven before, hell I started playing Gran Turismo years before I knew how to drive. It just looks like Jwong never took the time to learn about racing games. He probably thought Forza will never appear again after taping the driving episode.

awwww maaaaan so I watched that Street Fighter Musical High with Faye in it.

man… that girl Faye… cannot dance :sad:

her rhythm and synchronization with the other girls is embarrassing. for reals.

I wanna see Hannah dance!!

I could see myself watching this show again if Ricky Ortiz was on it.

If Ricky Ortiz was in the show, he’d be the manliest thing there. Seriously, I’d watch it or a chance to hear him say “Ya’ll niggas gay.”