Well, he has a source and Japanese mooks are generally credible enough, at least.
"Hello there, you may know me as RoKiSeph on GameFAQs, but maybe not. I was there when Saiki and a bunch of other guys were discussing the SF plot before this guide was even made. I believe I have some info that were present there that would help. I believe that Although Saiki’s information may be accurate, he doesn’t have everything.
Although it may not be canon anymore, many things were explained in the Gamest Book for Street Fighter Zero. (ISBN :T1063381161387. IF you consider source books like such as canon.)
- One of them being how GouKen met up and fought with Gouki when Ken and Ryu were still ‘Hatchlings’. Place : At GouKen’s Dojo/ Training Grounds. Time : night. Witnesses : Young Ryu and Ken.
Gouki states that he is the true heir to the Ansatsuken. GouKen states that Gouki has corrupted his ‘Hadou no Chikara’.
Young Ryu and Ken watch on, believing their master would win this fight.
The match ended with Goukens final blow, and Gouki lies sprawling on the ground. He says something about how they MUST come to blows again in this lifetime.
Gouken looks on, and says " When that man’s power goes beyond mine, the great disaster you both (Ken and Ryu) must face with your own power…the power which I will pass on to you…Wa ga ken no Subete o (All that is what my fist is), Hado no Chikara o! (The Power of the Hado!)
- This is waaaaay before Gouki kills Gouken finally.
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I won’t go into details, but Vega (Psycho Crusher) has actually visited Gouken before looking for the heir of Ansatsuken. He trashed GouKen in the process, because GouKen underestimated Vega. But GouKen also didn’t die (of course we all know that).
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Gouki killed Goutetsu just as Goutetsu was about to do a Messatsu Go Hadou, because from the text, he had cupped his hands and countless flames were being formed. Gouki killed with him with what I do not know. Satsui no Ken doesn’t mean anything to me here. But i’d like to think it wasn’t Shun Goku Satsu.
Anyway. Goutetsu dies happy (With a smile on his face no less, probably knowing he died in the greatest battle of his life, you know, enlightenment in the glorific battle to the death). Gouki took the beads off Goutetsu and wore them for his own.
BTW, Gouken witnessed all this too.
Ok, now, about Gouki/Akuma which i REALLY REALLY want to correct. Which I think I have already asked Grenade Falcon (Respectable Guy for his steadfastness and liking of Canon) and countless people to stop and Realise about. And of which I think 99% of the population outside of Japan has misunderstood about. Let me quote from your FAQ, (no offense, it’s just to make it easier for us to understand what I’m talking about.)
“Akuma may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher and
brother), but he is not evil by his own ethical code. His code is the
harsh code of the absolute warrior. He had no qualms killing his teacher and brother because he killed them in fair one-on-one combat. It didn’t matter who they were; the field of battle does not distinguish between friend or foe. And he only fights and kills those who call themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn’t go around killing defenseless normal people.”
Totally Agree, but more so than most people think. And I do believe I was the only one to push for the exact points as noted above back then. I wanted to make sure everyone understood. Actually, the words used in your FAQ are very familiar to me too LOL!
“While he doesn’t go around killing defenseless people deliberately, he won’t go out of his way to prevent them from getting hurt either. Akuma’s dedicated to his training first and foremost. If you happen to be standing on that mountain he’s about to destroy, he’s not going to stop and wait for you to get down because that would delay his training, which to Akuma is first priority. This is why he destroys that boat and submarine in his Third Strike ending. He didn’t mean to, but they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and he won’t stop his training just because they happened to be there.”
If you know the Formation of Ayers Rock, you’ll see it’s just a flat hill. It’s definitely not without Gouki’s limits to see or feel if there was anyone around before he split it into two. Oh By the way, that’s all he did. no one would have been injured in the process. Watch the ending again and see.
For 3rd Strike. Gouki did Not destroy the Submarine, nor did he destroy the Boat with People. The idea was put into people’s heads when the first few people saw the ending and misunderstood it, and subsequently spread it around (sigh, the power of word of mouth). Subsequently, it was easier for people to think of it that way because, well, the idea was already put in their heads. Gouki destroyed THE SUNKEN BOAT which he was standing on. Communications were cut off not because the manned ship and sub were destroyed, it’s just what you would expect when a surge of energy ‘explodes’ and systems are temporarily knocked out, like an interference, if you will. If you look carefully, no where does it say that the manned ship was destroyed. Think about it. in the First place, Gouki was there to destroy the boat undersea. Watch the Ending again if you will, and watch the events transpire.
now why I say this, is because firstly, you were right about Gouki not unnecessarily killing people. However, it does extend to having care in not killing innocents. The path of the Truest warrior must never be tainted with the blood of innocents that are not warriors. If you can understand this, you will understand Gouki. I don’t care what millions of people have said before about it, they were all misled by the above two events in the first place. I am here to correct them into understanding Akuma/ Gouki in depth, and to give him the respect he deserves. (I’d go so far as to say Gouki is actually a bitty bit good, because there’s more proof pointing that he helps people and the society in general. Saving the child? Not Killing Gen? Killing Bison/Vega? (Ok that was unintentional, but well…)) Haha.
“Capcom stated that Bushin is opposed to Akuma because he disrupts the flow of nature, whatever the heck that means. I guess the in-game showing of this would be when Guy says to Akuma in SFA3, “For the sake of Bushin, listen to reason!” Dunno what Akuma does that disrupts nature, but I suppose blowing up entire islands and mountains would possibly do something like that…”
Lol, you’re right, thats part of it. Also, no where in the nature does any living being kill unnecessarily, even to satisfy one’s spiritual quest. Animals kill to eat or protect. Plants kill other plants or animals for survival. Only in rare cases have I heard of animals killing for pleasure. (Dolphins for one! The more intelligent the species, the more madness there is)
Also, Gouki goes around Purposefully looking for worthy fighters. Guy is the opposite, he protects people and would never go around looking for people to fight just for his own spiritual quest. In effect, Guy, and the Bushin Way, does adhere to nature.
And I HAVE to know where the Shun Goku Satsu being a move that pulls people into hell came from. I must read it myself to make sure it wasn’t just a Metaphorical Reasoning of what happens to a person. I’d go to Kinokuniya and Order that book, and I’ll read it. I swear. Because i simply think that it’s ridiculous.
ok my brains a muddled at this point. I do hope you will reply me so i know you received this, and maybe we can have other discussions :). I really liked your FAQ. "
Anyways, a lot of that was very intriguing to me, but I’d also like to… I dunno, confirm what he said about Akuma not killing the people in his SF3 ending. Actually, that makes sense to me, but I’d hate to just go against what Saiki stated on a whim (or implied agreeance, in this case. It’s about how Saiki stated that Gouki won’t go out of his way to prevent loss of life when he is in the middle of training).
So… erm, yea
You’d have to be patient for her to fight if you want that kind of fan-service, and the more impatient you get, the more desirable. It’s also more realistic too. You can give Sakura sex appeal, but I’m of the opinion that you shouldn’t make her flaunt it like it’s nobody’s business because that just signifies another desperate attempt at making another female popular. Mai’s only a fan-favorite because she was one of the first to do that. Nowadays, practically any female is considered a knock-off if they try to take it to that same level without some originality.
