If we go by the endings in SF2 revival, it’s still stated that Guile faced Bison. The only part of his ending that was changed is the fact that the Cambodia angle in his (and Nash’s) storyline was never mentioned.
Guile’s skill in SF2 was pretty much equal to Nash’s in SFZ3. The reason I still put Nash above Guile was because Nash is so much better with ki manipulation.
It’s also easy to tell just by checking the Sonic Boom of both of them. Guile’s Sonic Boom, when it hits someone, is colder than Russia’s winter. And the opponent feels like they got slammed into a brick wall. Nash’s, on the other hand, feels neither warm or cool but right in between. And Nash’s feels more like a precise slice from a katana.
And Chunli shouldn’t be too much above Guile in SFIII since she also quit the ICPO. So she really hasn’t had much fighting experience after SF2 just like Guile.
And BTW, that “mom” in that flyer for Sakura is actually Sakura’s mom. The guy beside her is Sakura’s dad. The last is a scrapped idea character.
Yes, thank you redwiz.
Thanks for the real deal on that Saiki, but it makes me wonder why draw out Sakura’s mom and dad? Sakura’s dad looks like a cross between Ryu and Hideo of Rival Schools. Well still if that pic is Sakura’s mom you can still tell that the older version of Sakura in MSHvsSF is wearing the samething, same length skirt, same aprin, same shoes. The scapped character reminds me of Akira from Rival Schools.
In Gill’s attacks, pyrokinesis, and cyrokinesis, pyro means fire, thus fireball, but what does cyro exactly mean? it’s not in the dictionary, it must mean ice, or is this a mess up by capcom?
I think Gill is saying “Cryokinesis”, meaning along the lines of cold. I’ve heard the Cryo part said in many movies whenever they mention something like a stasis tube or freeze machine or something relating to cold.
More random pokings regarding wording of things
Another person on the MMCafe boards said that Zangief’s bio’s dislikes section says “Young women who fight” instead of “Young beautiful women”. If it’s the former, it’d be more a reference to Sakura Ganbaru (Zangief vs Sakura and Cammy) than a reference to Zangief’s sexual preference, but I don’t know since I don’t speak Japanese and all 
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What was Guile and Nash’s military rank in SFA3?
What’s Guile’s rank in SF2?
Thanks. 
Woah, I haven’t noticed that before… Just askin’ how’d you know?
Anyway, another evidence that Nash is quite a ki manipulator, by the way he could implement some ki in his punches and kicks, which Guile can’t.
But IMO eventhough Guile can’t manipulate Chi like Nash, he could surely back it up with finesse and prowess. In example with Gen. Gen in SFAIII was in league with Gouki. But we can see that Gouki has more powerful ki and a younger body than Gen. How could Gen beat that? The answer Gen has more experience, skill, and finesse. His ki manipulation is limited to speed and precision of his attacks. Hell, Gen could meditate at a certain degree(Not as harsh as Gouki’s meditation).
Another example is Dhalsim. Dhalsim has too much ki manipulation. Hell, with that kind of ki, he should be in league with Gouki. Problem is, he has little experience in terms of fighting. Face it Dhalsim is a monk, and monks do not look for fight. As much as possible monks avoid fight.
So I still think Guile and Charlie should be equal. Eventhough Charlie has more ki manipulation, Guile could equal it with finesse, experience and hell Guile has beaten Bison(if Guile is really the SF2 champion)
One question did Chun-li fight Urien? If so, who won?
What I meant to say was Sagat dropped out? 
If we go with what you say why would Ryu(or Ken) drop out? Ryu always looks for the fight, because he want to be stronger, but if he is afraid of Sagat, how will he be stronger?
I never said Guile meets Gouki. I said that after Guile have his ending happened:
Bison stood up thinking Guile was a fool for letting him live. He was already plotting some revenge scheme. When suddenly a shadow formed beside him. Bison sensing some pretty powerful ki, tried to look, but it was in vain. Gouki already did his Shun Goku Satsu. Then we see Bison’s body like in SFAIII(Just kidding).
All of this are just my opinion ok?
So if it is “Young women who fight” does that mean Zangief’s not gay or what?
Nash has better chi manipulation ability?
But doesn’t Guile own moves like:
Level 3 moving Sonic Hurricane and Level 3 Sonic Boom Typhoon?
The chi manipulations that Nash can match-up against the two is only a barrage of Sonic Booms.
By the way, since Capcom hardly revamped Guile’s ending in SF2 Revival (which still shows him having encountered Bison) it’s the strongest evidence we have of a Guile-Bison bout that took place.
moving?? sonic hurricane???
I dont understand the moving part…
and a lvl3 sonic boom typhoon??? in what game is that move??
Can anyone with those All About Capcom books answer this: Do those agents in Chun Li’s Alpha 1 ending have names? I remember when that first came out, me and some friends thought the one with the hat off was Eagle, so we thought that canonized the whole ‘secret agent’ Eagle thing which was later debunked. And looking back, the other looks a lot like EX’s Cracker Jack. If they’re not who they look like, who are they?
As promised, here’s the quote that Ryu says to Necro in SF3 that leads me to beleive that Ryu defeated Dhalsim in SF2 and in the Alpha series once or twice.
“You can’t surprise me with those moves! I used to beat this man from India…”
When I get a chance I’ll check AAC for Chun-Li’s agents. Looked for the name of her adopted kid and couldn’t find it, though.
Random - After a mishap of first accidently receiving Macross Design Works through the Mail, I finally got Capcom Design Works through E-Bay! It owns!!
have you heard of cyrogenetics? it has to do with keeping objects at very low temperatures sa a way of perserving them. the only example i can think of off the top of my head is from the first ausitn powers movie, where austin is frozen for 30 years. that’s an example of cryogenetics
Now that my fucking internet decided to work. I can announce something (that’s probably been announced already, but meh.)
SMB2 has voice clips.
Japanese ones.
If you want, I’ll record them and put them in mp3. They’re too long to be calling out special moves and I doubt they’re intro fights.
Maybe the japanese version uses them, or it’s dialogue that wasn’t used at all yet remained in the game.
If you wanna hear them, in Kawaks, you have to use the F11 function, which brings up the menu of the CPS roms.
*Another person on the MMCafe boards said that Zangief’s bio’s dislikes section says “Young women who fight” instead of “Young beautiful women”. *
No, it doesn’t say he dislikes young women who fight.
_? = "Myourei no utsukushii jyosei"
Myourei pretty much means young/prime of the youth/marriagable age.
Utsukushii means beautiful.
So no, it does say he dislikes “young beautiful women”
His win quotes toward young female fighters show that he has no dislike for young female fighters as well.
Zangief to Sakura - "From my point of view, you should gain some more muscle."
Zangief to Karin - “Do not use money in a bad way, a severe punishment may come onto you.”
And even if Zangief’s dislike wasn’t “Young beautiful women”, that still doesn’t change the fact that he’s gay.
Woah, I haven’t noticed that before… Just askin’ how’d you know?
Capcom has actually explained how most fighters projectiles actually work and how they feel and the impact they have.
*But IMO eventhough Guile can’t manipulate Chi like Nash, he could surely back it up with finesse and prowess. In example with Gen. Gen in SFAIII was in league with Gouki. But we can see that Gouki has more powerful ki and a younger body than Gen. How could Gen beat that? The answer Gen has more experience, skill, and finesse. His ki manipulation is limited to speed and precision of his attacks. Hell, Gen could meditate at a certain degree(Not as harsh as Gouki’s meditation).
Another example is Dhalsim. Dhalsim has too much ki manipulation. Hell, with that kind of ki, he should be in league with Gouki. Problem is, he has little experience in terms of fighting. Face it Dhalsim is a monk, and monks do not look for fight. As much as possible monks avoid fight.
So I still think Guile and Charlie should be equal. Eventhough Charlie has more ki manipulation, Guile could equal it with finesse, experience and hell Guile has beaten Bison(if Guile is really the SF2 champion)*
Gen is much older than Gouki and has had much more fighting experience than Gouki. Guile was taught by Nash when he joined the army. Nash started MA since childhood. So Nash has more experience than Guile anyways.
*Level 3 moving Sonic Hurricane and Level 3 Sonic Boom Typhoon?
The chi manipulations that Nash can match-up against the two is only a barrage of Sonic Booms.*
Guile’s Sonic Hurricane is like a strong knock-out punch that’s un-focused and uses alot of strength. Nash’s Sonic Break is like consecutive strikes with the same amount of force applied on each strikes but using less energy than the knock-out punch.
And here’s the name of the Judgement girls from SFIII 3rd.
Lilly - India(looks like Dhalsim’s wife Sally)
Tonli - China
Tonfa - China(the one wearing the white China dress)
Julia - England(the blonde)
???
I think that Gen has excellent control over his “ki”, just that he displays it differently. He doesn’t form flashy projectiles or bolts of energy, rather he uses it to back up his attacks. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean that it isn’t there (think of Ryu and the Shin Shoryu-ken). Anyway, there are multiple ways to adapt, control, and manipulate ki. I think that Gen’s style is more subtle and less obvious. I think that his ability to survive the SGS and his supers display this.
Except for the fact that Nash has way more experience than Guile. I would also say that he is much more agile, posseses more finesse, and better technique to boot. This is kind of a losing arguement.
-Clay
That’s cool, any chance that you could share some more of those descriptions on some of the various specials and supers in the games? I’m really curious.
PS. Tiamat, these should be added to the FAQ, not that you need me to tell ya’, just throwing up a red flag.
I haven’t actually played Guile in SFA3, but his level 3 Sonic Hurricane actually moves in that game (not stationary). BUt the level 1 and 2 Sonic Hurricane is stationary.
Sonic Boom Typhoon is Guile’s meteor combo (level 3) in SFEX2+ and SFEX3.
Imagine Joe Higashi’s hurricane super in CVS2 with a height of only 1.5 times that of an ordinary character, moves like any other projectile, and does like 50-75 percent damage. That’s what the Sonic Boom Typhoon looks like.
Anyway, I’ll ask this question again.
What’s Guile’s military rank in SFA3 and SF2. What’s Nash’s rank in SFA3?