Oh sorry. I really should read more carefully.
Streetwise
ok i was just wondering does final fight street wise tie in with the storyline of the prevous final fights or was it just giveing us an update on cody life
ps from reading some of these posts who woulda thought that i played with a gay red wrestler for about 10 years lol
What do you mean by tie-in? Well, at any rate, Iâm sure it ties-in with Final Fight One on more aspects than just Codyâs life (albeit not as much as Iâd hoped for, especially after Sodom and Poisonâs Streetwise concept art got my hopes up). Doesnât really take into account particularly much of FF2 or FF3, though. (not that anything ever does)
streetwise
cause i mean like when this game came out it was 2005 right or 06 but anyway if i did my math correctly cody in streetwise should be about 35 years old takeing a break the street fighter circuit cause of his legs but when after the odâing on glo his legs are starting to return to normal which means he can be put back in the street fighter circuit was this game trying to introduce kyle as a new charicter to the street fighter circuit or what?
Um⌠it was just trying to be a Final Fight game, Iâm pretty sure from the interviews with various programmers and designers. The Capcom higher up guy went to Capcom of America Studio 8 and literally said âHey, why donât we bring back the Final Fight franchise?â (thatâs a near exact quote from the interview) and thatâs about it. Nothing really Street Fighter related was thought of at all.
At least from the interviews (alas, we never did get to find any reason why they decided to chuck Cammy of all people into the game)
sucks
aww man that sucks i was hopeing for a new charicter to master on street fighter
Before that can happen, theyâd have to actually make a new Street Fighter, you know.
âŚunless they did another Ingrid thing, I suppose.
Special thanks to Shin Bata Kun who I managed to catch on AIM and could tell me who Akimanâs girl of the month from Gamaga magazine is! This is Excelica from a Dreamcast shooter named Trigger Heart Excelica. 
Talking bout artwork, I finally (with the help of Mr. Nik of StreetFighterDevotion) to find out who did the famous American Street Fighter art! His name is Mick McGinty and I asked him if he would like to do an interview so if you have any questions send me an email (aerialgroove@yahoo.com)!
After some searching & researching, Iâm thinking that you or he meant to say '88 instead. The Game Simulation Video series was released by Pony Canyon in the late '80âs. Eh, guess Iâll see when it arrives to me, supposed to be only 20 minutes long. Hoping itâs got good stuff in those 20 minutes.
Lesse now, goes through checklist
-learned that the seemingly official 2nd Impact art is from Skill Smith Combo Videos
-still have no idea about the mystery Dan (Gouki?) sketch from The First Place
-gotta somehow read those SF1 pamphlet pages! Anyone know of a powerful image magnifier?
-Saiki?
Okay done with that. sanoâs CFJ quote requests, check. Roseâs original account, check. Roseâs official story, pendingâŚ
Okay ready. First up the CFJ quotes:
Ryu to Zangief
âPower is something to make the most of. But you canât display just that.â
Zangief to Ryu
âSurrounded by nothing but weird guys but youâre squarely reassurable.â
Ryu to Felicia
âIf you prepare with composure, youâll become a better fighter.â
Felicia to Ryu
âYouâre strong butâŚyour dance is a weak point isnât it?â
Ryu to Yun
âEven if you cross fists with thousands or tens of thousands, you wonât even slightly come to understand the importance.â
Yun to Ryu
âHowâs that? As long as you like you wonât be deceived!â
Ryu to Urien
âThat was tremendous vigorâŚthis is tenaciously produced power isnât it?â
Urien to Ryu
âRidiculed pityâŚat any rate your eyes are a displeasure!â
Ryu to Nool
âI was delayed by trouble, somehow though I seized a victory.â
Nool to Ryu
âRrough to the point of tough sensedsed. Nnot even funny nowow.â
Ryu to Karin
âOpen your eyes to it. You donât want to see your pace.â
Karin to Ryu
âYou still take it. The true fighting style to say little by little and so forth right?â
Ryu to Guy
âLetâs fightâŚagain, in case that be your wish.â
Guy to Ryu
âA fist-containing soulâŚsurely you had the honor of taking it up.â
Pyron to Ryu
âI am a nook of everlasting memory. Itâs alright if itâs merely in your existence.â
Next up:
Rose from SFZ
Original account from SF2 Himitsu Hyakka
âSomeday surely, your field of battle will come to be. Be not forgetful of âsoul powerâ, grip it, it is but a powerful weapon, yet a weaknessâ Roseâs masterâs words.
A blue, cold flame of hatred stretches in the world! Hellâs fire has become a great cluster, throroughly burning everything. âŚsuch a spectacle, one day Rose saw in a dream. That is, evil soul power, a premonition of it sweeping down on the world. For Rose, before the dream become reality, she decided to check.
At that time, suddenly she sensed an evil presence. For her, hurriedly opening the door, she rushed out to the street in front of the dwelling.
Several cars came in sight from the side streets, by Roseâs side, the objects would pass by at amazing speed. For her as a sigh, she stared inside one vehicle. In there, a pale aura would release, a red military uniformed man was riding. The man expressed a bold laugh, staring at Rose⌠That man for sure, was her enemy!
Official Story from Gamest SFZ and AASFZ
From before it was some turbulent atmosphere she was sensing. That was a wicked willed power, a malicious power seemingly controlling all. That power, something she herself could treat as âsoul powerâ, that thing for her was a thing of completely heterogeneous circumstance.
At first it was just a small thing non-excessive. However, she realized that the power was gradually increasing. That also was certainâŚ
One day she saw a dream. A blue cold flame of hatred was stretching out in the world. Hellâs fire has become a great cluster, a scene of thoroughly burning everythingâŚ
That was surely a terror. She herself dreaded it, it would be that due to âsoul powerâ would suggest a thing as a great blaze.
The next day she saw that nightmare, she was considering as 1 person. An unpleasant experience. Unless the dream is restrained before it becomes realityâŚhoweverâŚ
At that moment, she suddenly sensed an evil spirit. That was gradually nearing this same manner of location. She hurriedly opened the door, she rushed out to the street in front of the dwelling. However, there wasnât anything mysterious. âŚNo! That was certain, from this direction itâs approaching! She once more concentrated in her soul.
Several cars came in sight from the side streets, by her side they would pass by at wild speeds. She let out a sigh as she stared inside one vehicle.
In that black limousine was riding a man body wrapped up in a red military uniform. Seeing him clad in a pale aura that figure was the one from her nightmare. She fixed her eyes on him.
At that instant, the uniformed man looked back. Staring at her, all the while expressing a bold laughâŚ
A chill ran down her spine, he looked askance at her just standing stock still as the vehicle had run past.
Rose was remembering her masterâs words. "Someday surely, your field of battle will come to turn towards your steps. âŚdo not forget, âsoul powerâ youâll grip, it is but a powerful weapon, yet also a weakness for it cannot conquerâŚ"
In time for her, the true meaning of these words, she would come to know in her cruel fate and within her battle.
Next time, Birdie. Thanks for reading minna-san.:tup: 
Felicia telling Ryu he canât dance is too funny!
Iâll update the faq around Good Friday or so.
Rose seeing Vega drive by was interesting too. Thanks for everything man! :tup:
Tiamat, you aware that Cammy got a storyline in Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold from Street Fighter Anthology?
Her end-boss is M. Bison and her ending is just some text placed on her X-Men vs. Street Fighter artwork.
Yea, I got the ending. Just never got around to updating the guide yet thanks to busy season.
Sure thing sano.:china:
Hey, isnât Roseâs Master and Vega supposed to be one and the same? Or was it retconned to be the case for SFZ3? I forget.
Yes they are one and the same, presently and Iâm fairly sure since Zero 1 so no retcon. Couple of notes and explanations:
-in the plot guideâs Rose section, some corrections. Neither Eternal says that Roseâs master sent her after Vega/Bison. The original says Vega and Rose had a master/student relationship, direct copy nâ paste from AAC which is correct, and the translation says that they both shared powers and training, which is still somewhat true but not correctly translated obviously.
-also in the plot guide, Guy finds Rose unconscious and with no deep wounds in her Z3 ending. This looks to be cropped from the Alpha 3 shots at The Video Game Museum at least, but AAC and other sources show that in Roseâs ending, Vegaâs knifed his hand through Roseâs chest, with some fingers showing and some blood spraying out the other side. So once Vegaâs soul entered Rose, think the gap in her torso closed back up before Guy found her?
-taking just the three Rose accounts Iâve translated so far into consideration, I feel that Capcom seemed to be aware of all the things we learn in Zero 3 concerning Rose and Vega: âsame soulâ, âmaster-student relationshipâ, âsoul power & psycho powerâ, etc. ever since Zero 1. Weâre told that through âinformationâ, Rose was studying soul power under a âmasterâ for several years, yet weâre also told that soul powerâs something that she all of the sudden gained as a âforced attribute.â And later on we read her âmasterâsâ words are advisory, cautious, caring, what you wouldnât imagine Vega passing on to anyone.
How do I feel that all this fits together? With just one small retcon involving Vegaâs past revealed in his SF2 Dash account: his master who was killed by Vegaâs psycho crusher taught him soul power rather than psycho power. Vega shed the goodness of his soul because of his hatred for his master, and contrary to his masterâs words, he wanted soul power to conquer, and that is what we now know as psycho power, the mental energy bent on conquering others and fueled by hatred. Vegaâs goodness âforcedâ itself into Rose, and with it all the knowledge and memories of how he was prior to his power hunger, including his masterâs words. Thatâs how Rose would believe or explain to someone that sheâs studied soul power for several years, because Vega did. And even though the masterâs words were really from Vegaâs master, the worldâs sole user of soul power just as before the Zero series the worldâs sole user of psycho power, she identifies Vega as her master because his soulâs goodness is the only reason she would now recall at all the words of caution concerning soul power, the very words that Vega himself hated to hear.
âŚwhoa, thatâs some really complex stuff there 
Yet it seems the only explanation why Roseâs âmasterâ is portrayed as so benevolent in those accounts when her master was the not-so-benevolent Vega even back during SFZ1. Itâs interesting that the soul power concept was thought of and retconned into the story even before SFZ1.
This also gives us a slight bit more insight into Vegaâs master, too.
Hmm, it also makes more likely the possibility that Rose really was born a regular person before Vegaâs good soul went into her (which is something thereâs been other clues at such as the fact that Rose has a nationality, of course)
âŚall of this could have been served so much better in-game if the games just had some cinematic prologues for each character. Thatâs some really complex stuff to have to take from out-of-game info that would have made Roseâs SFZ3 ending a lot easier to understand for people.
I assumed that the blood in Roseâs ending (which I believe was censored in the US version) was either metaphorical or the physical wound patched itself up after Vega possessed her. Because in both the Japanese and US versions of SFZ3, thereâs no blood present as Guyâs holding her. Youâd think a woman who was just knifed through her abdomen with an entire fist would be leaking blood all over the place, especially when held in that position. Of course, there is always the possibility that Guyâs comments about Rose having no serious physical wounds was a mistranslation or addition by Capcom of America, but the in-game cinematics donât seem to indicate that (nor do I see how her being physically mortally wounded would make much storyline sense in the context of Vegaâs motivations, Guy sensing Vegaâs presence, and Guy holding Rose like that).
Can someone provide me a link to Timatâs Street Fighter guide ? I am working on a massive Street Fighter Role-Play and I need to help new members become acquainted with the SF universe.
Edit : Never mind I found it in Sanoâs signature.
Anyone have any other helpful links and guides ?
I now have no doubt in my mind that Rose was born a regular person, since she was one day âawakenedâ to soul power according to the Zeroâs World account on her.
I didnât realize that the âphysical woundsâ phrase was from the Alpha 3 text; I had assumed until now that itâs what you got from Saiki or something. That phrase is a CoA addition, the original text has Guy saying, in old âde gozaruâ speech no less, how he always talks BTW, that her life isnât taking a different situation aka her condition isnât getting better, and that if she doesnât get treatment quickly, then he interrupts himself as he feels the chill.