Tight! Thanks again. vasili10, could you please translate those bios for me (not including the stats)??? Thanks.
I am this close to smacking this guy for his stupid comments.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=81802
I prefer people link or refer to the plot guide (first) rather than just quote it (âlinkâ should probably be to aerial grooveâs fighting street site or to my gfaqs recongition page. Canât directly link to gfaqs faqs). I dunno, it just seems less⌠credible to just copy and paste quotes from the guide itself when arguing a point. Posting a link to the plot guide or saying your quote somes from it lets them know where youâre coming from which would hopefully alleviate some of that âIf you know so mutch, well why donât you give info from japanese comics, mangaâs and japanese cannon storyline??â stuff. If someone quotes from the plot guide without saying that it came from the plot guide, how are people supposed to know where it came from as opposed to you pulling it out of your own butt?
Not that the plot guide cites a source for everything in there but I like to think it has developed enough credibility for most people to know that whenever something is stated as confirmed in there, it usually really WAS confirmed from SOMEWHERE (Iâm usually pretty careful about that, even if I donât post a source for every single sentence. Hey, the documentâs already past a megabyte of space and each update takes frigginâ long enough as it is). Which is different from some guy randomly stating something on a message board (which is what someone quoting the plot guide without saying the quote comes from the plot guide might look like to other people)
That said, the guy himself is still a jackass. RYU XX CHUN-LI XX SAKURA IS OFFICIAL FOREVER YES IT IS TRUE!!!1 And he accuses other people of making official info up? Thatâs pretty damn hypocritical.
well I did link to the plot guide once but he just called outdate information.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370593
edit: and yes he does know about the plot guide but calls it flase info.
note 1 oh acrosurge seems to have a lot of info on the megaman series.
note 2: he does state his info being from various megaman Japanese sourcebooks , game Scripts and OST soundtracks which include audio dramatization with the game voice actors.
note 3: oh and by the way can you in next update list my screen name next to my real name.
Outdated? Hmm⌠donât think I ever heard THAT criticism of the guide before.
Not that I can see how information about a series that technically hasnât had a new canon game in TEN YEARS (besides Final Fight Streetwise) could be outdated per say, anyways. Course, Iâm under the impression that this guy probably thinks all mangas and animes (and thus Udonâs comic) is canon.
âŚbut none of those had any hawt Sakura XX Ryu XX Chun-Li action, either.
Maybe he thinks hentai doujinshi are canon?
The Plot Guide is tha Real Deal! Fuck tha haters!
I still wish that acrosurge guy who come here and post his vast knowledge on the megaman series.
Note: I think Acrosurge is possibly might be Zan Sidera from the ttp://www.megaman-community.com/
Whew, finally finished my third FF:SW playthrough. Interestingly enough, Joe Willis did the voice for 2-Ill, which shows that for whatever reason they delayed the gameâs release an extra 4 or so months, it had nothing to do with adding extra storyline (given that 2-Ill has lines throughout the entire game even up to near the end)
And Chang is probably named after programmer Joey Chang. Drat.
I think Iâm just about done finishing all possible updates and touch ups for now. Hey Vasili, how are the stage translations going? Iâm thinking that if itâs too much trouble for you to rush them, I can just go and release this update now and then when youâre done, I can add your stage synopsi in another quickie new update ASAP. Itâs not like thereâs a rule that forces me to make each update months apart or make each update ridiculously huge. Itâs just my own laziness that causes that
Touched up the final scenes from Kyle meeting Guy onwards. I ended up moving some stuff from charactersâ miscellaneous facts and notes to their bios such as stages and ages to try to streamline things a bit. Also ended up deciding to give the four commandos their own sections because it felt wierd cramming them into the CC game section. shrug Iâm quite certain that CC was originally intended to be in FF continuity and itâs not like Capcom ever announced that CC was removed from it. Of course, as the Japanese website stated, Alpha Guy becoming Bushin master contradicts a little with it thanks to Gou being Shoâs master (when thereâs supposed to only be one Bushin master at a time), but I donât think that means much because by that logic Final Fight 2 should be struck from the continuity as well. Also, Akiman and Ohno were the lead planners of Captain Commando and the game was made during the good old âHey! Letâs make EVERYTHING the same continuity as Street Fighterâ days when you could play fighting games, wrestling games, or beat-em ups all within the same storyline continuity. Captain Commando being in the Street Fighter universe might seem like a stretch today, but back during the days when it was made, it would have been par for the course.
I guess one of the reasons I liked FF:SW so much despite its mediocrity was because it reminded me of those days, I suppose
The URL is "http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/variousinfopages/streetfighterplotguide.txt"
I always keep the same URL with each of your updates so it should always link to the newest version. I also keep in in my Link section only, to make sure nobody thinks I made the Plot Guide.
Shitstaters made me leave the official European Capcom Forum, nobody had any clue there and thatâs how I got here.
Anyway, got my Akibado package today and thereâs some fresh stuff to scan in it.
I got a newspaper of SFEX, some old SFII Gamest merch, an old SFIICE guide (boring), various issues of CAP!, the SFIII 3rd Strike Secret File (Q without mask?), very well drawn SFIIV Bandai cards (show the different look of the game and the TV characters), the SFZ3 Secret File and some other stuff not worth to mention.
Wow, it was that bad there? I went over there two days ago in my hunt for random Street Fighter facts and I noticed they stickied the guide there (the closest thing to direct official recognition of its existance itâs gotten so far since Living Room Games, I guess. Sweet?). Saw some people there saying they wished I visited that forum more often or something, but I have trouble keeping up with all my forum registrations as it is (that and real credit should be split among the guidesâ many gracious benefactors, anyways). Still felt a little guilty about that, though, but itâs good that some (one?) of them found their way to here, at least
Oh yea, I added a link to your site at the bottom of the guide. I got an e-mail asking me where to find various official arts online so I figured I should include some links. Also included some others with disclaimers that I donât necessarily endorse their views (example: Cammyfan. Itâs about time people know where to get the 12 Dolls art, anyways, since getting e-mails about that seemed to be a recurring thing. I canât/wonât host it myself because last time I tried to host things guide-related, it killed my bandwidth LOL)
Scanning some Bandai cards, if anybody wants to add his/her Bandai cards, put as many on your scanner as possible (make sure to leave some space between them, I get a max of 12 cards) and scan the whole page with 150 dpi and full color and send it to me. Iâll split it up then. Oh and donât save it as a scrubby jpg file, if you use jpg choose best quality or just use TIFF (*.tif). Thanks.
Gomen Tiamat, I know I said a day or two, shouldâve added âa day or two Greek timeâ then Iâd be covered. Seriously theyâll be up pretty soon today, need to do one final touch up for Fei Longâs stage and thatâll be it.
Next week Iâll post up all the latest CFJ quotes and the FF2 bios requests, so no one be thinking Iâve forgotten these now. Laters.
Ready finally. With the exception of a small clause in Sagatâs stage about him going after Ryu AND Ken, everything should still be effective. The final battle of SF2 doesnât take place on Shadoloo property, it happens outside of the Ramayana Temple of Bangkokâs Grand Palace.
The first section is from the Complete File, and the new challengersâ notes come from the Fanbook. Enjoy and thanks for reading.
Japan (Ryu) Suzaku Castle
Ryu trained in the Suzaku Castle dojo indebted formerly as his old home. As it appears that the worldâs champions start to move, and from rumors heard, he sent a letter out to Ken.
With training also concluded while the windâs blowing 10 meters above ground, if sometime or other comes a day of a trapped struggle with a formidable enemy for the sake of a fighting stage it would be at dusk for Ryu, a sudden dojo escapeâŚ
"Good, this is alright, a place for practice yet to believe that somethingâs missing."
Itâs to become the beginning of a new struggle.
America (Ken) Battle Harbor
With a street fight unrolling here everyday, the popular name is Battle Harbor. Travelers from the worldâs nations and, always brawlings among the sailors, naturally it has been converted to a street fight spot. Recently itâs come to be an attraction for raging drunk parties. This port is the scene for Kenâs training. The battles here, also having forged the body, has money enter hands. Itâs two birds killed with one stone. Today newly become strong ones go to cross over the ocean.
"Itâs fine for whitened up bodies to get warm. However that Ryu, really what is he up to about nowâŚ"
Taking up a red uniform in the sea breeze, Ken today assures himself of victory.
America (Guile) Certain Air Force Base
In order to search for the guy who killed his comrade-in-arms Nash, today he parted with his dear subordinates. Amongst bidding farewell to everyone, always cool Guile is seen with a smile from all his might.
"However, at this point all at hand is the name known as VegaâŚ"
The scope of things seen, clearly the guy doesnât have the only thing needed.
Such that the time, the challenger would be revealed before his eye.
Speaking of challengers, he learned of a story spoken about a man with a freely manipulating evil aura. âGetting everyone to listen by force, there cannot be resentment in you for the reason which I am overcome.â
Soviet Union (Zangief) Grand Factory
In a single bound Zangief became notorious in the underground pro wrestling world. This time, the worldâs challengers to say take on the Soviet Union, a direct calling out by the president.
âTeach all of the worldâs population of the Soviet might before them, Comrade Mr. Zangief.
But, to the extent of being reasonable, go out to the places of general trend
audiencesâŚâ
âAh, Mr. President, if that is so then locally that grand factory would be good wouldnât it? With everyone there recognizing my face, I believe my bouts will be pleasant.â
âHmm, it should be alright there. Moreover what can be said on the essence of our nationâs working class. Keep persisting before them, Comrade Mr. Zangief.â
India (Dhalsim) Maharajahâs Palace
Indian model decision battles took place at the Maharajahâs palace. Now the ceremony praising the fighting king is just over.
âThe king of greatness to become, who besides can it be?â
âHmm, as for the challengers from foreign nations. This is agreeable, Dhalsim!, your power will be a supportive test. How much you separate will also be the remainder of what will be watched over.â
"I must win only with motive. Fate cannot be opposed. Such is fateâŚ"
Dhalsim once confronted the whole of yoga training. He took himself as the same as whoever was a challenger. The greatest enemy therefore being his own selfâŚ
Brazil (Blanka) Amazon River Basin
With Blanka usually in the deep jungle dwellings, for the first time in 1 year he descended towards a town. The talk of the town was rumors. Anything, from street fighters revealed daily, to street fights spread out as such.
Now, if only he were previously like the thicket king Onsa (a panther) heâd also be the same as a cat. Even with the great Amazon jungle full of danger as well, his enemies quickly became no more.
"Uoh, uoh, uohruuuu!"
Desiring formidable opponents his blood within rose in an uproar. Desiring a newly become struggle he pledged his determination to journey out into the world.
Japan (E. Honda) Edo Hot Baths (Tokyo)
With real ability the one worldly edge, for the largehearted son of Japan E. Honda, every time after practice comes a bath.
From the time he was little Honda was brought up with a large bath, and of course he likes a large bath most.
It became a predicament for Honda between his favorite sumo and large bath, âMight as well, putâem together!â he says, what a bathhouse placed with a ring.
Curious it was, his strength walked along together with rocomi, day after day turned into suspicions. (especially from the manly sumo wrestlers)
Such that rumors were heard, a street fighter could be fighting around at the Edo Hot Baths.
âHahhahha, a bath is exceptional after bouts. Letâs quickly apply the conclusion!â
China (Chun Li) Shopping District, Peace Road
Hearsay of investigations have fair activity. Even today in order to search for narcotics routes, thereâs hearsay at the shopping district. At the bustling streetâs conjested center, a peddler woman well recognized by face starts her voice on whatever hasnât changed.
âDunno, who knows right? But recently, with street fighters or something other appearing, âAre there no strong ones for me here?!â and she appeared to leave. By all means that one was saying, said Vega or whatnot was a bad guy, in order to defeat that one sheâll even wander from place to place throughout the world. Perhaps that one with narcoticsâŚ, ah well, she went. Sheâs been considering since earlier to take action hasnât she, that girl.â
America (Bison) Las Vegas
Las Vegas 11:00 pm, today this street becomes a ring for Bison. A street fight began by trivial chance, using a pair of fists as weapons he until here rose in the world. A man gotten to be grounded into the American dream. With powerful and actually quite profitable boxing, which he would exhaust on liquor, gambling, and mostly women.
But in Las Vegas as much as possible, he can be a hero.
Still today, he takes up on a newly become challenger in his ring.
âMy fists greedily wait for stained blood!â
Spain (Balrog) Fighting Barroom
At a streetâs back alley in Spain, a secret underground continuing down a descending stairway and a housed barroom. This barroom having become a membership system, with gambling of course, buying and selling of narcotics and so forth seem to take place. Here the best special attraction, is the present age pankration, the street fights. Among the barroomâs stars is Balrog, with a succession of victories, proceeding to a point of no rivals.
Tonight, for this secret club the excited crucible will transform. At any rate, the daily main event being the wandered-from-place-to-place street fighters to therefore turn up so to say.
âHmhhmhhmâŚitâs only natural for beautiful me to win. The defeated are always predestined as the ugly onesâŚâ
Thailand (Sagat) Ayuthaya Ruins
Here at the Thai ruins the past and the present flow into existing as one and the same.
Amidst intervals of rigorous training, alone in meditation Sagat mentally trains bitterlyâŚ
"Youâre Sagat, eh. As is your beyond rumored true ability."
A newly become challenger appeared.
"You only saw my true ability seen through you, you are also likely a suitable rival to utterly defeat. However, that today is over. Not going easy on you, come at me!"
Until that day which before his eyes Ryu & Ken be utterly defeated, Sagatâs training will not be to proclaim as overâŚ
Thailand (Vega) Ramayana Temple
The time to announce the battle by the gongâs tone resounding, by one fault then two faults to gather by the probable men. From enmity, aiming at the still fighting kingâs name, he will contend for this battle. Here only one winning one bout after another, can fight this Vega. However for him to understand Vegaâs true power is none other than the end of human life. A one-sided match, from the fight is to say a massacre. Moreover to let oneself approach hatred amplified is the overwhelmingly evil psycho power.
Where he goes for the body to use such a power, what is his purpose no one knows. Only, that pace of time which the weak are utterly defeated mouths rest in peace to an evil dietyâs smile, partly as a legend for the world to know of the fighting kingâs name.
Stage Secrets
England (Cammy)
The old fortress is called Fraser Bala Castle. Nearby is the British Intelligence Departmentâs base.
The lighted windowâŚ
Delta Redâs comrades watch over the matchâs whereabouts!?
Aurora
An artificially made aurora in order to camouflage the Intelligence Department!?
Mysterious mansion
What the, a character location which has them disappear!! The Intelligence Departmentâs base!?
Mexico (T. Hawk)
Hawkâs home has a nearby sight-seeing area. Previously his father made woodcrafts to be sold.
Sparrows!?
Birds that became completely turned to Hawkâs summoning?
Supporters?
Appears to be a cheering party of 5 people yearning for Hawk. A Latin American spread!!
No. 1 number of people
All stages have a maximum number of people. Who are they?
Jamaica (Dee Jay)
Sunset at the establishment known as âLemonyâ at the pretty Kingston beach.
Parrot
Flies when the match is decided. Also Rickâs pet, Beramacha?
Tune
Dee Jayâs tune, is MAXIMUM (also written on his trousers) the center of the musical performance!?
Band
"Lemony"'s specialty exclusive band with songs treated to salsa.
Hong Kong (Fei Long)
Hong Kongâs most famed park. Used to get Fei Long to show his face!?
Legendary animals
Legendary animals calling out good luck, Seiryuu, Suzaku.
Park name
Tiger Balm Park. Alias âTiger Leopard Villa (Fuubaao Bettsuaii)â.
Neither does it happen ingame, itâs just a joke of that Shadaloo base poster, the temple does not belong to shadaloo. Right?
Strange that nothing is said about her father in Chun-Liâs stage info. Was she looking for Vega before he killed her father?
Haha, so thatâs how he got the two chicks in his ending/stage. They donât have a name right? I think itâs also them in his SFII b/w art (bar).
Please post a link to the scans of the SFIII secret files, when you have scanned them!!!
Thanks in advance!
You can find the SF3 New Generation and 2nd Impact secret files at the Arcade Flyer Archive (www.arcadeflyers.com). I think vasili10 has the Third Strike secret file. Btw thanks again, vasili10.
Vegaâs SF2 stage, rather than a joke of Shadolooâs base, is an exaggeration of the Grand Palaceâs Temple of the Emerald Buddha, with its statues and the suspended bell. Saying this again to aerialgroove and Ultima especially, the templeâs not Shadolooâs as far as I know. Ramayana Templeâs a stage where supporting cast such as Eliza and Samantha as well as fighters could enter without much resistance due to it being a public area, and the stage storyâs what proves the final battle is there ingame if thatâs what you were wondering. Vega does fight the final warrior there, whoever it may be.
Notice how Chun Liâs stage info also doesnât have the shopper mentioning Chun Li by name either. The shopping district is said to be a place of much word exchange, and this old ladyâs getting an earful of it. You know whom sheâs referring to when she says âthat oneâ or âthat girlâ, but youâre given the peddlerâs perspective as someone whoâs frequently seen Chun Li in the area but wouldnât be like one of Chun Liâs neighbors who would be more likely to know about her father and who he is.
I donât believe Chun Li ever looked for Vega before her father disappeared, and itâs never been outright said that Vega himself actually killed him, as opposed to Nash in early accounts.
As for Bisonâs girls, no names ever given so they may or may not be the same ones everywhere.
Sure thing Golden Dragon.
Ah ok, I didnât get that Chun-Li thing when I read your last post, sorry.
Iâll upload a lot of scans including the 3rd Strike Secret File, within the next week. I already uploaded some cards and Iâll add more tomorrow plus lotâs of other updates. I got a great SFZ3 picture of Sakura and the rest of the gang that looks kind of SFEX2/3ish. Also funny stuff like riddles.
Thanks, Vasili! Okay, Iâve sent the version to gamefaqs finally. It can be gotten at the usual geocities address for now until it gets posted up at gamefaqs.
Itâs interesting that T. Hawkâs stage mentions âa Latin American spreadâ, since people used to wonder if Noembelu being referred to as such was a mistake. Guess it wasnât, then.
vasili10 - Given how ls and rs seem interchangable in Japan, I wonder if for Balrogâs stage if thatâs supposed to be a barroom or a ballroom. From the Free Online Dictionary -
bar¡room (bärrm, -rm)
n.
A room or building in which alcoholic beverages are sold at a bar.
ball¡room (bôlrm, -rm)
n.
A large room for dancing.
Anyway just curious about that one. Great stuff as always.