Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

I already asked this a while ago and nobody knew it but I just thought I’ll ask again: Who are the two guys in Necro’s SFIII stage? They look too unique and worked out to be just random spectators I think. Is the stage the place where he was made? Maybe before 3rd Strike only?

About Q, there seems to be another character that could be an inspiration for Q, he is named “The Question” or just “The Q” and wears the same clothes but has no face. Got this sent in by a visitor of my site.

If I recall, Saiki said that Capcom said that they chose the letter Q because it stood for Question (but not that it was actually Question within the storyline). I wonder if Q was designed before or after the Question was. I don’t keep up with comic book history (but I know who Question is from watching Justice League Unlimited).

Wait, scratch that. Looked it up. Question’s been around for a long time. Well, Q was probably inspired by him at least a little, give the letter Q, look, and all the conspiracy and mystery surrounding Q.

http://www.all-karate.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=824

edit: any ways Ryu and Ken’s fighting stance is Similar to Kyokushin Karate stance some of their moves seem similar as well.

note 2: Kyokushin has moves similar to that of Shotokan , but the philosophy and training is different ( Kyokushin training is a lot more strenuous than Shotokan training).

Your links never work Sagatryu, sorry.

I really find it hard to believe that Capcom referenced a character as obscure as The Question, especially how very little Japan cares about American Superheroes even more so back then before the recent good Superheroe movies like Spider-Man and such made there way over there. Yes, before JLU came around he was a very obscure character. Given, Shuma Gorath, Birdy(Sabretooth’s helper) and Blackheart are all a little obscure but at the very least they obviously had to research Marvel for the Marvel games, not DC.

On second thought, Steve Ditko who drew/created Spider-Man created The Question, Capcom might of stumbled upon him when they were researching Spider-Man, though I really doubt it.

But ya never know…

Sano, Kenji Inafune is an avowed American comic book fan. A bunch of Japanese geeks are.

I would have assumed Capcom wouldn’t let them use “ansatsuken” because it wasn’t correct. Knowing it’s Capcom of America, perhaps I should have known better…

Any info approved by Cap USA, btw, may not be the same as CoJ info. Therefore, some of the info in the quote may be conjectured and still approved, or by CoA themselves .

Taking away the “ansatsuken” issue, it sounds like a somewhat akward translation.

Either way, wrong “fanboys,” I apologize…

They are part of Gill’s band responsible for Necro’s current state as far as I can tell, and his stage is most likely where he was tampered. Not so obvious in AASF3 but clearly pointed out in Gamest’s NG mook.

Still would be incredibly odd. Whenever they talk about American comic books all I here is Spider-Man, Batman, X-Men. Even when they are… inspired by cough cough rip off an American comic it’s usually Batman, X-Men, people like that, characters that everyone knows about regardless of weither or not they’ve ever read a comic book in their lives. When Watsuki starts ripping off Slyde or Sienna Blaze and turns them into manga characters like he did for a bunch of X-Men characters that were all popular, that would be something. Man, that person who contacted Aerialgroove about The Question after JLU came out shows you that nobody knew who the guy was before 2003…

I’m sure there are fans of everything/everywhere somehow, but overall Japan doesn’t take men wearing tights saving the world seriously unless they are piloting a huge robot or something… there still isn’t a real super hero presence in manga and anime and whenever we see them in games we get… Skullomania and Capcom’s bonus guys like Norimaro and Amingo and a bunch of ludicrous MSH vs. SF endings… doesn’t seem to me like they take super heroes that seriously… maybe if Inafune or the people behind Devil May Cry and Viewtiful Joe who are big American comic book fans had something to do with the Marvel games things would be different, maybe… and no wonder both the VJ games and anime are more popular here in the US than Japan, even if it’s a bit of a super hero parody.

But like I said before, ya never know. Would be great if The Question started investigating Capcom regarding them ripping him off, conspiracy I say!

The Question and Q seem really different to me. The Question talks. A lot. And he’s not a robot (or have robotic parts). The Question doesn’t wear white gloves. Isn’t the mysterious guy in a trench coat thing something that goes back to like, really old movies anyway??? But Q and The Question -aside from the trenchcoat and conspiracy thing(which The Question is investigating, and Q is maybe a part of a conspiracy, really different IMHO) I don’t see anything in common really. Pero from the Metropolis Anime/Manga FTW lol!

does random Captain Commando sleuthing

Okay, much to my annoyance, there isn’t a single thing in any stage backgrounds that say “Metro City” (although I don’t believe there’s any background paraphernalia that says “Metro City” in FF1 or FF3, either). However, of particular interest is that one of the bonus point items you can pick up is a statue bust of Haggar himself (It even says “Haggar” right below your energy bar after you pick it up)

And I’m pretty positive those ninjas are from Sho’s clan. They have the same running animation and wear the same outfit except slightly less decorated (which makes sense since Sho’s probably of higher rank)

Just asking

Anyone interested in doing a US version of the 3rd Ryu VS manga book, that was never released outside of Japan, for all the SF fans? I want to scan and color the whole book, just like the original two. I need a good translator though. You will get absolutely nothing for it. Sounds great? Hit me up.

PS: If you want to become a translator you can say “I once translated an entire book to English”.

My knowledge of Japanese doesn’t go very far beyond “Gomen nasai” and even that I can’t spell correctly.

Gomen nasai!

Oh yea, is it confirmed in Street Fighter Eternal that Oro has begun training Ryu or does it just say he seeks to train Ryu or something? Don’t think I ever got confirmation for that ^^

Eternal and AAC both say that for Oro’s ending, Ryu’s training with him. Eternal (J) is slightly more blatant about it than Eternal (US), but they both say it, and both say in the relationship charts linking them that Oro has expectations of Ryu.

BUt does Oro’s ending happen, is the question? (no pun intended concerning previous discussion).

Speaking of Question, I doubt that Q is inspired by him directly in any way. I think it’s more of a coincidence. The look of Q has been done in Japan before multiple times (perhaps Question inspired these earlier versions, but who knows), and really, how much thought does it take to make a guy have a mysterious background? Q = Question = Unknown = No background into whatsoever isn’t exactly a deep, thought-provoking train of thought.

Also, I notice on one of the pictures shown in the Capcom Europe index page (http://www.capcom-europe.com/index.aspx), it has the artwork shown for the cover to Street Fighter Anniversary Collection, and it says that its location is the “Shadaloo Temple Gates, Malaysi, 16:03”. A reference to the final 16 world warriors (and Gouki) appearing and fighting on Shadaloo’s compound I suppose.

Yea, I saw some guys ranting in Street Fighter devotion’s messageboard arguing about whether or not Ryu and Ken could beat Akuma and one of the arguments that kept coming up was whether or not Oro was actually training Ryu now. And that basically is a question of whether or not Oro’s ending actually happened.

Of course, I myself would be very surprised if it didn’t happen because like SF2, it seems that the general assumption that Capcom intended was for every ending but the final boss’s (Gill’s) to have happened, but ‘assumption’ is the word and some official confirmation would be nice in that case :slight_smile:

Ah, is that what the 16:03 could stand for? I was wondering what was going on when I saw that Shadaloo thing at the website too. If that was it, that would go along with the theory that there were more people in the world warrior tournaments but the ones you actually play as and see in the game merely represent the finalists. Interesting that that would also mean that all the final matches took place at Shadaloo’s compound if your interpretation is correct.

Aerialgroove -

If you plan on scanlating Ryu Final please do not put anything on the net until the entire thing is finished. Both books. I just can’t go through another Manga Qwest incident where they translated 5 pages and shut down again… take your time, I’ll be around like forever… well in theory anyway…

There is… ‘some’ hope for a Ryu Final translation. Studio Udon is translating the Onimusha 4 manga, they said that if it goes well for them they will translate more Capcom mangas. Course Capcom has hundreds upon hundreds of mangas for their various franchises, so that could mean anything… but it’s some hope at least. I’d love to see the Strider manga translated myself.

http://kanyu.hp.infoseek.co.jp/gamecomic01.html

I believe Capcom Europe’s page shows 4D real-world and game locations like the stages of 3S. For SF, I interpret it as Shadoloo Temple Gates, Malaysia, 4:03 pm.

Unless if Vega’s Revival stage overrides his stage in Super X (which we’ve said long ago that no Revival stage takes precedence over the other SF2 stages), no SF2 matches take place on Shadoloo’s property. You’ll see this in a day or two with the upcoming Complete File & Fanbook findings.

Noticed that Breath of Fire uses Zenny - Capcom money too.

So the rest of the Capcom Classics Collection timelines from the PS2 version, well, I honestly couldn’t get any more timeline dates for the most part… skipping over games on the PSP version and SF2 and Final Fight.

1942(released in 1984), 1943(1987) and 1943 Kai((1988) - Take place during their respective years. 1943 Kai is a harder version of 1943, only available in the US with the release of CCC.

Commando - Super Joe’s other game, as you know he was also in Street Rumbler and Bionic Commando. Released in 1985. Storyline timeline unknown. The Japanese name of Commando is “Sejou No Ookami” which translates to “Battlefield of The Wolf.”

Mercs - Mercs is a sequel to Commando. Released in 1990. Storyline timeline obviously takes place after Commando. In Japan it’s called “Senjou No Ookami II.” While neither of the CCC games call the main character of this game Super Joe, the main character is called “Joseph Gibson.” Might be a coincidence, might be Super Joe’s real name, who’s to say. Joseph Gibson does have blonde hair and blue eyes though. Heh, there’s a Ms. Gibson working for Guile in Studio Udon’s SF comic, coincidences are funny… The other characters in the game are Howard Powell and Thomas Clarke.

Gunsmoke - During the Wild West. So roughly mid to late 1800s. Released in 1985.

Exed Exes - Released in 1985, on a planet ruled by Exed Exes, so if this isn’t our world timeline doesn’t matter.

Ghosts n’ Goblins(1985), Ghouls n’ Ghosts(1988), Super Ghouls n’ Ghosts(1991) - Medieval times. As you may know Ghouls N’ Ghosts is getting a sequel this year for the PSP - Ghouls N’ Ghosts Extreme. The main character of War of the Grail, Capcom’s next arcade game is also named Arthur but that one seems more like the King Arthur of Legend, with a redesign of course.

Pirate Ship Higemaru - During the age of pirates I suppose. Released in 1984.

Son Son - Released in 1984. I guess this game takes place around the same time as the Chinese legend of Son Goku, so long ago.

Trojan - Took place on a Post Apocalyptic World ruled by an evil king and his army. So if this isn’t our Earth timeline doesn’t matter, and if it is, well, distant future. If you lost your weapon you had to fight hand to hand, so much so that CCC refers to it as a precursor to Street Fighter. Released in 1986.

Vulgus - Released in 1984, Capcom’s first game! First to introduce the Yashichi seen in a bunch of Capcom games. A spaceship flies and shoots things here, not much to it, especially for trying to determine a timeline… well it was their first game and all.