Latest plot guide update. It’s still slightly incomplete because I still need to go add in various Final Fight Streetwise names for generics (and some of their descriptions from the instruction booklet. Metro City section still has a good chunk of stuff I need to add from my notes in general) and I also need to finish this 3rd playthrough to get some more accurate portrayal of Streetwise past the second visit to the bijou hotel, but I should get both of those done soon. Also, Maki should probably go just below Guy in the power tiers (and right above Sakura, whom she possibly beats in her storyline).
And… anyone know anything about the latter part of this paragraph? I think we talked about it before but I forget if it was confirmed that that was just a comic thing or a white wolf RPG thing or fan conjecture thing. Someone said it in an e-mail to me.
“Much like some real martial arts, Ansatsuken has two
forms: Jutsu (art), and Do (Way). Ken could be said to have taken a Jutsu
approach of developing his Ansatsuken, with the fancy kicks that he’s introduced
and some of the flashier moves that he has. Ryu on the other way follows the Do
aspect, following the principles of the style that Gouken taught, whatever those
would be. (It’s also been mentioned that Ryu follows the Hadou and power way of
the school, and Ken the Shoryu way, with an emphasis on speed.)”
Update looks good, see if you can take Chun Li’s shoes statement out of Sakura’s section and into hers, I like that you made a separate section for Gouken (unlike Goutetsu there’s quite a bit more material out there for him), and Hadouken no Nazo aka HnN is a Gamest SF PB (paperback) rather than a mook.
If you can wait for a little bit before submitting, in a few more days I’ll bring out the SF2 stage info (next items on my checklist). Noticed you had the unique ones for Revival listed and said it’s not quite useful without the rest, so a few (just a few ) priorities will soon converge here, stay tuned…
The paragraph above seems like an afterthought or two brought out after we saw Udon’s backstory about Ryu’s red headband and Ken’s short hair, or some other point with the comic, not sure. Definitely not something in White Wolf though, not its style to say hadou way or shoryu way.
Finished Strider 2 again. Grandmaster wonders if he’s the same Hiryu that defeated him about 2,000 years ago, which would put Strider 2’s date about 4048 or so.
Seems like I’ll have to do the off topic PS2 CCC stuff on the weekend, looks like it’s gonna be one of those weeks…
Nice update TiamatRoar. I can’t believe I missed 2-Ill being Two-P, arg! Wasn’t playing close enough attention when Vanessa was talking to him I guess.
Thanks, Vasili! It’ll probably still be a little while before I submit, though. Still need to finish this third playthrough of FFSW to make sure I have some of the latter facts straight (mostly small things).
And yea, now that you mention it, I do recall the comic saying something about that Jutsu and Do way. I’ll have to check.
Sano: Yipes, 2000 years…
Too bad you missed the Two.P reveal. I thought it was pretty cool
Ah, I’ll be sure to catch the 2-Ill - Two-P thing when I finish my second play through.
Yeah, the Strider 2 thing is bizarre, I knew there was a gap but not a 2,000 year gap. Don’t know how Hiryu can still be alive that long, unless he was frozen or something. Don’t know about Ton-Pooh and her sisters in the game, their allegiance to Grandmaster might make them imortal, or they are ancestors/reincarnated. Solo… is just a robot suit so kind of doesn’t matter. I’ve often wondered if Strider 2 was intended to be a remake of the original game, though I’ve never heard anyone call it a remake, only a sequel, bosses and stuff are missing unlike most remakes, and… if it was a remake Strider Hiryu is still 2,000 years old, that would mean he fought Grand Master while Jesus Christ was watching, which is even more bizarre. Oh well seems like a mystery… doubt Hiryu in Strider 2 is an ancestor or reincarnated because it just seems kind of pointless to me, Grandmaster realizing it’s the same guy under the mask is the big shock. GM says that Hiryu couldn’t finish him off the last time and wonders if he will do it now, which he does, so something happened in Strider 1 that stopped him from murdering GM. Guess we’ll have to wait on the next Strider game if they make one, maybe we’ll find out more.
Tiamat: A small request: Could you please correct the name “Double IMpact” to “Second Impact”? DOuble IMpact specifically referred to the Dreamcast compilation that included New Generation and Second IMpact. Second IMpact is the real name of the second SF3 game. Thanks.
Good eye Ultima, catching that over with the acronyms section.:tup: There are some other spots where it seems that keyboard keys were just held down for a while, stuff like this: jjjjjjjuuuuuuusssssssssttt; saw some places in the sources/checklist section towards the end for instance.
Yea, I fixed the “jjjjjjjjuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssstttt” stuff.
…TEN DIFFERENT TIMES.
I think there’s something wrong when it gets uploaded to geocities that causes that. Maybe it’s the size of the file or something but I find it happeneing somewhere every time I upload this thing. Hopefully that won’t happen when I finally upload to gamefaqs.
One thing that I noticed about the 2-Ill=Two P. reveal on the second playthrough is that when he comes through in the car during the riots, his car is painted green and orange with the number 2 on the doors. Kinda sets up the reveal that occurs only minutes later.
Just got my Capcom Europe Newsletter and took a look at the Street Fighter Alpha Anthology page. http://www.capcom-europe.com/gamesheet.aspx?game=sfaanthology
Some of the drawings (“Artwork” on the right) look like characters of a Disney Movie or something. Not my taste but not the worst drawings bad either. What do you think? I wonder who drew it.
You can see a drawing of the characters in the Japanese website too. Looks like Edayan trying out a new style, can’t say for sure of course. I like it a lot.
^Should also be Garuda and not Garudo, IIRC, though I don’t play SFEX much.
I dont know that Capcom’s ever changed it. When SF2 first came out, Capcom of America pretty much pulled the fighting styles out of their asses…Bison using Ler Drit or whatever, Ryu/Ken using Shotokan karate, Blanka using Capoeira, etc. But the term “shoto” stuck… 3 or so years ago, for purposes of storyline-ishness-related stuff, people started running around talking about how the Shotos don’t practice Shotokan, they practice “ansatsuken.”
…which is also incorrect. “ansatsuken” is not a martial art. Ansatsuken refers to a genre of martial arts, I’m pretty sure. Any style which is intended to be fatal would fall into that category. Oddly enough, I don’t even know if Ryu or Ken practice that…I didn’t see the kanji for it in their or Akuma’s section of the AAZ3 book, but it was in Gen’s section (and his ending). Assuming it’s a term doesn’t just refer to the style of assasins, I don’t think it would apply to Ryu/Ken at all. Maybe it’s used in some other books, but I’d be curious as to see which.
So, I sorta have to question the quote Tiamat posted. I could take it as a somewhat incomplete translation, but “ansatsuken” being used to refer to a specific style throws that into doubt, at least IMO. It is, maybe, something from a translated source with fanboy conjecture thrown in on top of it. And, I don’t think Ryu striclty follows Gouken’s fighting style, so much as that Ken differs from it much more.
The_Emperor wanted to use Ansatsuken for Ryu and Ken’s fighting style in the World Tournament tabletop RPG and Udon wanted to use Anstatsuken for Street Fighter Eternal but Capcom of America said no to both, specifically requiring they follow American continuity. These are people working with Capcom on business with storyline-related products right now at this very moment (well, or until recently in Emperor’s case, what with the cancellation and all).
And the plot guide already says that Ansatsuken doesn’t really refer to a specific style, anyways. Heck, it even goes into detail regarding the various aspects of other fighting styles that were stated to have gone into it in various All About books. I used to receive e-mails from people saying they saw some shotokan in it but it definately wasn’t entirely shotokan.
Sano: Thanks! I’ll correct that.
Lucas Bishop: Wow, didn’t notice that. Guess he still does like orange, after all. Nice observation.
Aerial Groove: Typically, I find uploading to be much easier than sending files when dealing with large documents that I am constantly having to revise such as the SF plot guide. Ideally, it’d be a private Wiki so I could update it on the fly instead of uploading, but gamefaqs doesn’t have wikis nor does anyone else besides wikipedia, which is public and not private.
) priorities will soon converge here, stay tuned…