> the [game center]- employing all the research on fighting-technique games, the foundation is completely copied. Most recently, it’s become also youths’ dating and sports.
LOL. I’m surprised Shadaloo HQ is so… complete. It really is like its own country.
I wonder if there’s a Shadaloo Youth League? A YMCA of Shadaloo? Can I buy a Soccer Moms for Shadaloo t-shirt?
The rest of the bios at tge bottom of each page in this comic seem like they’re official. Does this mean the World War Tournament is (was?) actually an annual thing?
It’s from this thread btw if you want to look at some other pages: http://www.highervoltage.net/mb/showthread.php?t=10909&page=4
Of course, if Capcom knew the answer to that question of whether or not the World Warrior tournament was indeed annual, then something like this that The_Emperor posted a long time back on living room game’s forum ( http://forums.lrgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=821&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 ) wouldn’t have been an issue since Capcom would have just told them that was the case as opposed to them having to assume it.
"We have assumed (with Capcom approval) that the tournaments actually occur annually, and that the events in the games get press because they cover world-affecting meta-plot in the Capcom fighting game multi-verse. In other years nothing interesting happens, so it’s kind of passed off as a footnote. "
Hrm.
Perhap it has a gift shop where you could buy a “I break for DOLL(s)” bumper sticker…
Anwyay, might I suggest that the “electronic brain processing room” is actually a computer room? Someone mentioned to me that the word for computer in Chinese is “electric brain.” I don’t know if those are the kanji used in Japanese, too, but it’d make sense (unless it was some sort of pun).
As for the tournament being annual…does it even have a name in the Japanese books? We refer to it as the World Warrior tournament, but if I had to guess I’d just assume it was refered to in a somewhat more generic way in the Japanese books. Giving it a name makes it seem more official than just calling it “the tournament,” “the international fighting tournament,” etc.
Anyway, I’d guess there are various fighting tournaments held across the world, and some of them are highlighted by games (SF1, SF2, SF3). Sometimes there’s someone behind the tournamentts, a host…but sometimes it’s a bunch of guys fighting, either for money or pride. Just my 2 cents.
I always suspected there were multiple annual tournaments but wasn’t sure. It seems at the very least that in the past according to what looks like an official bio, that was the case, although again I’m not sure if Capcom remembers that given that LRGames had to make the assumption and get the assumption okay’d by Capcom when they typically try to stick to the canon (The_Emperor implied that Capcom was pretty strict about them sticking to the canon. Too bad it was all cancelled 
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Random: Anyone remember where Hugo’s measurements came from? I coulda sworn it was either from a Secret File, strategy guide, or maybe his in-game endings had his measurements listed during the wrestling match.
In the US SF Comic it’s annual too apparently, just dubbed the Street Fighter Tournmament.
Speaking of the US comic, at the NY Con Dragonthebomb of SRK (who I hung out with most of the time at the con) asked Ken Siu-Chong who was going to win the SF2 Tournament in the comic, and Dragonthebomb feels that Guile should win. Ken Siu-Chong said that he wasn’t sure right now, he has to speak about it with Capcom of Japan when the time comes. He said he might leave it ‘open’ somehow and not reveal who actually won the tournament, like the game does. I’d like to see how that would go…
The other thing I asked him before and forgot to mention here was when are the Final Fight characters gonna show up in the comic. Ken Siu-Chong said that they don’t seem to fit in with the storyline he’s doing now, the SF2 tournament, they almost have their own story entirely. He’d like to do a one shot Final Fight/Metro City issue. I asked him if it was a rights thing because Erik Ko said before that they couldn’t do the Metro City story Ken wanted to do because they needed the Final Fight rights but Ken seemed to act like the rights issue really wasn’t a big deal.
I think I mentioned this before but I couldn’t get anything out of him about what he was going to do with SF3. I asked him what his plans are, if there is any chance he’d give either Ibuki, Elena or Makoto maximum exposure like Cammy is getting in the comic right now, but he just said he only has vague ideas about SF3 at this point.
Man, SF2 issue 3 is really late, and so is the Rival Schools comic waaaah!
Heh, I’ve already stated on the comic board for a while that Final Fight… really is pretty darn separate from the rest of the SF story. In fact, I think the only really significant interaction was Guy “rescuing” Rose. Other than that, Rolento and Sodom’s utopia has nothing to do with any Street Fighter characters and the same goes for Guy’s (and Maki’s) Bushin trainings and followings as well as Guy’s and Cody’s interaction. So even within SFA3 and SFA2, the Final Fight characters largely just interact with each other for any major storyline points. And of course, Hugo in SF3 is far from having anything to do with a major storyline.
I guess it’s similar to how Heathcliff and Riff Raff intersect, or how Garfield and U.S. Acres in Garfields and Friends do (well, not so sure about the latter). IE, they take place in the same universe and have various relations and small interactions with each other but generally keep out of each others’ major business.
Of course, needless to say, this probably wouldn’t fly very well for Udon’s comic.
Course, given how SF1 flows into SFA which flows into SF2 and then you have this huge disconnected gap with SF3, it’s no wonder that they’re unsure of what to do with SF3 as well.
It’ll be interesting to see if Capcom of Japan has anything to say about the winner of the SF2 tournament.
The bios from the comic are just the English equivalents of the bios & profiles found in the manga Street Fighter II Ryu, complete with the manga/comic-only terms “Shad,” “GF aka Grand Fight,” Shadoll," etc.
The World Warrior tournament isn’t mentioned to be annual in AAC, but it’s given its own separate entry with the name “World Fighting Championship,” one of two tournaments in the index, the other being the “Pan-American Fighting Championship.”
Hugo’s numbers can be seen in AAC and before that the 2I arcade pamphlet.
Yeah electronic brain most likely refers to computer, that’s me being literal, but also because the kanji combo for “computer” found in dictionaries isn’t the same as the combo Capcom used on the map.
Seriously what’s taking so long for SF2 #3 to hit the stores?
Quicky note about Megaman Powered Up on the PSP - When Megaman gets Bombman’s power it’s called “Hyper Bomb.” Someone behing MM PU is an SF3 Alex fan. 
OT - If anyone else is getting it I created a stage called “SANO!!!” you can download and play in the United States section. I made sure to make it easy(since everyone is hell bent on making incredibly hard stages lol!) plenty of bonuses(more than you actually need for laughs ha ha), enemies comitting suicide, hid the letters SRK in a background, good times. 
I’ll try to play some more Final Fight Streetwise soon…
Next week CCC for the PSP comes out with SF1. I’m hoping that it will have SF1 bios you can unlock once you beat it.
Thanks, Vasili!
Hmm… I decided to go back and merge Hugo and Andore’s bios for the next update. It’s just too obvious. It’s just too bad some friggum fraggum at Capcom had to force Streetwise out the door before Poison could be implemented. I’m almost positive (albeit with no evidence) that her inclusion in the game likely was due to Andore being there as well.
Wikipedia says that a sourcebook states that Hugo (not Andore) left for America with his father, brother, and grandfather (who all of course are enemies in Final Fight. …did they forget his uncle, as well?). Sadly, it doesn’t state which sourcebook, though.
On a random note, I figured out how Andore Jr. can be “Jr.” while being Andore’s brother. It’s because Andore is a last name, not a first name (Therefore Andore would be Hugo Andore, while Andore Jr. would share the same first name as Father Andore. Of course, we don’t know Father Andore’s first name, but that’s besides the point). Final Fight Streetwise made me realize it (not that it says anything substantial about Andore, but there’s something else in the game that made me think about it).
Is Hugo’s Third Strike stage his old home? His background states that he left against his mother’s will at 20 years old (thus 1984. FF1 is in 1987) but promised to return when he became a man. Possibly, he felt he had become a man after the SF3 tournament in Double Impact, so he came home. That would explain all the toys lying around (as in, his mother held onto all his toys for him all those years), since I doubt a grown man like Hugo would care about child toys (he’s not Bratken, after all).
An interesting translation by Jigsaw of an interview with Streetwise’s head producer is in the middle of this thread:
http://www.highervoltage.net/mb/showthread.php?t=10062&page=19
Oh, here’s another interesting one.
Another Streetwise Interview. Not as interesting by itself, but if you scroll down to the comments section, you can see some comments by Joe Willis about how he left Capcom Studio 8 due to huge creative differences, and then if you click on his name, it takes you to his Yahoo profile where he talks about how he learned to never work on a game that lacks creative vision and won’t let him step up to the plate, again.
Might sorta explain or be displayed by how Streetwise has so many things that have a hint of ambition but never follow through with any of them
Okay… my head hurts… does Andore telling Cody that “You punch like my sister!” in FFS contradict him being Hugo?
So he says “Sister”? I thought I heard “sister” but wasn’t sure if it was “Sissy”. It sounded like “My sister” to me.
Hugo has two sisters, so it actually doesn’t contradict at all. If anything, it goes further to prove that Andore is Hugo. Sweet. For a moment there, I thought my ears were just hearing things.
…poor Streetwise. It looks like they REALLY did their homework when they made that game, but alas got held back by so many things.
I assume you meant Kyle instead of Cody, right? Pretty sure Cody and Andore never see each other in the game (not including Arcade Mode)
Yeah I meant to say Kyle, my bad… to my ears it sounded like “sister.”
That interview was interesting. I applaud them and Inafune for wanting to try something different. It may not have satisfied everybody but I think FFSW was a solid effort. I hope there’s a sequel where they can improve on a few areas.
So, wait. After reading that Sakine interview, Streetwise was originally planned to be a 3-d, cel shaded beat up 'em with designs by Akiman? And then Keiji Inafune stopped them? Why? Why the fuck did he think modernizing FF was a better idea? Why? That idea, fully realized, would have been so, so awesome. I’m gonna go cry myself to sleep now.
I find it ironic that they wanted Capcom of America to do something “unique” by forcing them away from the cel-shaded Akiman idea, and by doing that, they forced Capcom Studio 8 to do the very opposite of that and produce Grand Theft Auto Clone #24151.
Studio 8 did the best they could with what they had. “Free reign” or not, they couldn’t use their initial idea (the cel-shaded Akiman thing) so had to go the urban route.
Given that Inofune was the one who made sure they stayed on schedule, I wonder if he’s to blame for the game getting rushed out the door as well (there are LOTS of things that got cut or chopped up from what I can tell from press releases. VS modes, arm wrestling tournaments, collecting information being more important and being done via things like interrogation, respect doing a lot more, and of course, Sodom and Poison).
Hunh, things being Capcom of Japan’s fault and not Capcom of America’s. That’s a new one.
Uploaded sano’s latest Saiki pages, same URL as the last times, 41-50
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Tiamat, that manga is so far from being canon, I wouldn’t count too much on it. The page you showed and where you find the info box to be official talks about “Shad” which is a giant city build on water, connecting various countries=completely not canon.
Hugo’s 3S stage may very well be his own room; it’s neither confirmed nor denied from the stage notes in the first 3S mook, just thrown out into the open as a possibility.
I’ve been receiving many thanks lately without tagging on you’re welcome’s, so to everyone: minna-san (is this what Orochi Ken says in SvC when he teleports?), dou itashimashite!! Long live the thread.:tup: 
Aerial: Ah, okay. The next page in that comic talks about the drug DOLL, which we confirmed was canon a while back, so I was wondering if anything else in those bios was. Well, that’s good to confirm. Thanks!
Vasili: I got the idea when I was looking through the plot guide and saw that Hugo’s stage was named “HOME SWEET HOME”. That didn’t sound like the name of a new home Hugo would get but instead sounded like the name of an old home that one would return to after a long time. Well, at least to me.
Drat, I think the whole “put Final Fight Streetwise CD into your computer to look at the files” thing only works with the X-Box version or something. I’m getting nothing with my PS2 CD. But then, sometimes I’m a computer dunce when it comes to certain things.
Hey Lucas, any chance there are some readable text files or something in there with the entire game script? (at least, the non-spoken parts). I’m wondering if there was anything cut out of that 
This link’s not working for me…
I use the utility PSound to scan PS disks, I don’t know how to do it through Winamp like GameFAQs’ El Gado was talking about. Get PSound here. Just put your disk in and scan the files. And no, there isn’t a game script .txt file. :lol:
