Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

In case anyone ever got aronud to making that win quote translation guide…a couple ones from the Genesis (MegaDrive) version of SF2 Dash…I assume the quotes are the same in all versions of the game.

I did add a few quotes from Super SF2, as there seem to be a few new ones there…Last one of Ryu’s, last 2 of Guile’s, and M.Bison (Vega, cape) seems to have all new win quotes. Last 5 of his are all SSF2.

It’s at this point that I’ll mention that if this has already been done/posted somewhere, please don’t tell me. My romanizations are poor and inconsistent, though mostly correct. Don’t mind the “>” symbols, I e-mailed this to myself at one point.

Harsh criticism of my weak translation non-skills is encouraged.

Chun Li:
fuh subete no otokotachi wa watashi no mae ni hiza madzuku no yo!!

  • hah, men (in general) are unequal in the first place and fall on their knees in front of me

onna dakara toitte amakumitawa ne! Zannen dakedo watashi wa sekai ichi no kaktou ka na no yo!

  • since I’m a woman you didn’t take me seriously, huh!? But unfortunately, I’m the world’s best fighter!
    Similar to: “I’m the strongest woman in the world!”

fuh anata wa shosen watashi no teki de wa nai wa!! Denaoshi toi de!!

  • in the end, you’re not my enemy. let’s start over (?)

taishita koto no nai otoko da wa! motto tsuyoi aite wa inai no kashira

  • An unimpressive man. (I wonder if there) isn’t anyone better…

> -----------------BISON
> fufufu omae na to watashi no ashimoto ni mo oyoba nu!!> hahahahahahaha
> - huh huh huh, you too are at my feet, and no match for me!

> sono tei dono ude de watashi to tatakau to wa
> mikubirareta mono da na.
> - that way, with what abilities, you fighting me is nothing to take seriously. // pitiful
Sounds like: “You can’t compete with my powers.” …sorta.

> watashi no JAMA o suru mono wa shi arunomi da!!
> - for those things which obstruct me, there is only death!
Sounds like: “Anything in my way will be destroyed!”

> mousugu sekai ga watashi no shuchuu ni osamaru… hah> hah hah
> - the new world my (will) rest // be placed into my hands… ha ha ha

> akagono hou ga hagotae aru wa! chikara nakimono wa
> miru no moke ga rawashii!!
> - it’s a baby (chewing), strong corpse is disgusting to look at
(what the fuck?) Second part I get…this thing in front of me (the loser) is detestable to look at. Got it. The first part. It’s baby…? hagotae seems to refer to the texture of food when you chew it…?

> omae mo ORE o taosu koto ga dekinai no ka… ORE
> yori tsuyoi YATSU wa mou inai no ka…
> - you too couldn’t defeat me (could you)… I’m the stronger one, you can’t do it (can you)…
I’m thinking the tone here is sort of taunting, because of the “ka…” rhetorical question on his part.

> jibun no muryokusa o omoi shire! shosen, kakutouka
> nazo mina magai mo yo!
> - your personal weakness (I’ve) discovered. In the end, fighting riddles are all also a sham (?)
(…what?) I guess he’s saying he’s figured out the tricks you were trying to pull…? Or did I get this one wrong somewhere?

> waga buka ni hoshikurai no ude mae da na. daga, sono
> me ga kinikuwan. nido to sugata o miseru na!
> - our/my subordinates(…?) …but, I can’t stand those eyes. Show me that (your) way a second time.
Don’t get the first part. Little help? We want your skills?

> korosare nakatta dake de mo arigataku omoe. kisama to wa BERU sono mono ga chigau no da.
> - I didn’t kill (you), so it seems thanks are due. with you that beru is incorrect
(WTF again, I must have romanized this incorrectly…BERU (in katakana) doesn’t really fit…could he be talking about the bell in his SF2 backgrounds…? Why would he say soeone wasn’t good enough for the bell…? I should also point out that “kisama” is a derrogatory form of the word “you…” (…and the reason why I was inerested in Japanese. Because any language with a derrogatory version of “you” gets the thumb’s up from me. :tup: )

> yokuzo koko made watshi o oitsumeta mono yo. shikashi saigo ni wa, yahari aku ga katsu no da!!
> - (your)skill stops by me cornering you(?). Nevertheless, in your final moments, evil conquers as well

> Dou da, shin no kyoufu no aji wa? kono tsugi wa eien
> no akumo o ataeteyarou…!
> - how is it, to truely taste fear? this next step, a perpetual evil will be brought…

> -------------------RYU
> ii shiaitatta-na, mata ore-to tatakattekure!!
> - good match, fight with me again! // have another
> fight with me

> omae no chikara wa sonna mono ka! Kuyashikatta-ra
> kakatte koi!
> - (your) what strength! It was difficult…
Can someone help me with the “kakatte koi?” I’ve heard Ryu say it before, but I’m not sure what it really means.

> otagai chikara o dashikitta n da… dochiraga makete
> mo okashikuwa nakatta.
> - (our) mutual strengths did our best… which loss is also serious
Eh? I guess saying that it was a close match? Clarification?

> Shin no kakutouka e no michiwa mada toi… shugyou
> aru nomi!!
> - the fight’s path still in question… only more
> training (to do)!

> nakanaka yaru na! daga madamada. shugyou ga tarin
> you da na!!
> - quite good!(?) but, still much to go (to improve). (you’ve) more training (to do)!

> yononaka ni wa ORE yori tsuyoi YATSU mo iru. HETA na
> jishin wa suteru koto da na.
> - in the world I’m the stronger guy. Unskilled
> people (bodies) quit(?)
Dunno if he’s saying they lack fortitude, or that they physically aren’t disciplined enough.

> -----------------GUILE
> kuni e kaeru n da na. omae ni mo kazoku ga iru darou…
> - return to your country. You also have a family, I’m guessing…
Corollary- “Go home and be a family man!”

> make wa senu, kono tomo no katami ni kakete.
> - not losing, (wearing) this (friend’s) souvenier.
Refering to Charlie’s dogtags, I’d guess.

> tatakai to wa mujou na mono da. daga ORE wa makeru
> wake ni wa ikanai.
> - battle with me is a harsh // heartless thing. but I can’t lose // me (my) losing won’t do.

> omae no ugoki wa mikitta. ORE ni kanauaite de wa
> nakatta!
> - your movements were seen. I matched you // you were matched // countered!

> heh ORE ni KENKA o uru no wa, hyakunen wa yaize
> - heh, me (learning fom) brawling, 100 years (it would take you)
Came out sounding a little Yoda-like, but he’s talking about his experience. Saying it would take 100 years for the opponent to catch up, I think.

> naze make tano ka, wakaranai no ka? Omae to wa,
> seotte iru mono ga chigau no da.
> - questioning why you lost, don’t you understand? (fighting) with me (you’re) burdened if wrong // can’t afford to make mistakes.

> omae to no tatakai ga, ore no arata naru chikara to
> naru darou.
> - our (my) fighting, (with) my new skills right
This one came out bad too. Basically, if I even got this one right, he’s saying that he used new stuff during the fight, I think. This is an odd comment to come from Guile, of all characters…

Okay, here’s the draft of the latest version of the guide. I looked through the entire thread since the last update and tried to change things originally thought to be official to be noted as conjecture instead, including Zangief being gay and Rose’s soul which we’ve yet to track down (although odds are I didn’t get every single reference to that one). Of course, all additions (all ludicrous numbers of them) were made, but I didn’t copy and paste every translated mook statement so much as most of them and the remaining ones I took what wasn’t already stated in the guide for them. And… heck, as the revision history says, basically nearly every section of the guide got an update. Anything exceptionally blatantly in error that anyone can see? Total time was about 25 hours or so. Yay for slow work days, I guess. I’m tired.

Ya put Remy in Tier 8 finally, works for me!

Thanks for using the Ingrid quotes and shouting out me and vasili10’s faq! Our updates don’t take 20+ hours though, DAMN…

Yea, I had to sift through a year’s backlog of emails and a slight bit more than 100 pages of warrior fanfic thread to do this update. Lots of copying and pasting, lots of typing, lots of hitting control-F to make new use of that search function indexing I’ve implemented (boy, what a time saver. I really should have done that earlier), lots of trying to figure out where to place what, etc. And… lots of filtering to try to figure out what’s for the plot guide and what’s really just idle chatter about other things. …head hurts.

Oh yea, any chance you’ll get translations of Vega vs Rose and vice-versa for that CFJ guide? Since there’s already stuff from Guy and Chun-Li that MIGHT be hinting at the soul switching thing but it’d be nice to get some real confirmation given light of recent events of being unable to find any official statements of what happened for Bison/Rose between SFA3 and SF2.

Oh, and forgot. Zeku. Dead or not? Saiki said that his banter about Shadaloo blah blah blah he said before dissappearing, and Vasili said that AAC says it was a death match but then there also seemed to be a lot of talk which would seem to imply more what Saiki said so maybe not and I don’t know. I think those are the two biggest issues on the plate right now but I forget.

Zangeif’s update - Wow, even you can’t get in touch with Saiki?

Vega vs. Rose will be up to vasili10 since I sent him all of the Japanese quotes, shouldn’t be a problem I don’t think.

To be honest regarding Saiki, I haven’t been trying that hard lately. ^^; Still, given that the last time he was here he was running around chanting about how he was Ramuh, I’m under the impression that he’s… disenchanted as of late or something :open_mouth:

Wow, what an impressively enormous thread. I’ll have to read more of it one time, but it’s 4.14 am over here in England at the moment. :zzz:

I just wanted to ask (and I apologise if this has already been covered somewhere in the 5472 post so far :wow: ) is there any extra info on Makoto that is known, outside of the info that’s obvious from playing 3S? Particularly her age, as that kind of thing really defines a character. Also, and I think this may be a far simpler question, what is her last name. I don’t recall seeing it anywhere.

Welcome aboard Kataki!

TiamatRoar - Still reading, one correction on my part on the seiyuus. Sakura’s song in Puzzle Fighter “I want you to know” was not sung by her seiyuu, Yuko Sasamoto. It was sung by Suzuki Tatsurou.

And the guy who did leave with Akira Nishitani to form Arika was Junichi Ohno, he was the main storyline person for Darkstalkers as Saiki has pointed out a few times since in the “Who’s responsible for this mess” I don’t seem to clear.

Thanks for any quotes from me in the Plot Guide, I appreciate it!

(taken from the Plot Guide)
“According to a Japanese website, he likes roast beef and dislikes
ungentlemanly behavior and unrefined fellows. This isn’t verified.”

‘Red Cyclone’ confirms the above info. It also states that Eagle’s birthday is December 31 and his special skill is golf (handicap 0).

You can remove the following lines:
“Gill doesn’t wanna wait 'til 2200, so he’s trying complete his dream
of a utopia now.”

(Maki’s bio)
“It’s also said that she likes manly men.”

(Ryu’s bio)
“He feels sad/lonely because Ken?s fighting ability hasn?t
changed/improved much, now that he has been domesticated.”

(Twelve’s bio)
“A better name for the ‘human body reconstruction theory’ would be
the cell reconstruction theory.”

You wrote in Y&Y’s bio(s) that you’re not even sure if ‘Old Man’ is related to Hoimei and Shaomei, but in actuality he is their father.

Hey Kataki. For Makoto info, try going here

Then press control-F (the ‘find’ feature in your browser) and input pgVMakoto. That should bring you to Makoto’s section which should have everything we’ve been able to find out about her.

Oh, and the guide’s been updated with the corrections. Thanks, Sano and GD! I also added to the SFA2 section in the games section how Eternal calls the Alpha series a tournament or such. …grudgingly, as you can see.

A few annoying things if it’s not too late, sorry…

Any chance you can start off my Ingrid quote with a capital ‘R’ for the word regarding?

In the Junichi Ohno part, you can remove the parenthesis in the last paragraph where I ask if that’s his name since I know that’s his name now.

If it’s too late and it’s already been submitted to Gamefaqs no big deal and thanks. :sweat:

BTW, are you going to keep that Geocities Link? It’s better to spread that Link around since Gamefaqs doesn’t allow direct linking. Unless Fighter Mania will be uploaded with version 4.2 of course.

Saiki lives!

http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/bbs/messages/11583.shtml

Nah, it’s not too late. Haven’t uploaded to gamefaqs yet. Heck, if I recall correctly, I can upload to gamefaqs on the fly now. …not sure. It’s been a year since I’ve uploaded to gamefaqs.

And… I generally don’t keep the geocities link except for temporary things. Geocities provides very limited bandwidth. Back when I had the guide at that link and had that as my shoryuken.com signature, I couldn’t access my site anymore at all because I’d constantly get the “This site has exceeded its bandwidth” message. Blech.

Ah, Saiki. Hmm… course, I don’t wanna pressure him or anything. Although it was kinda funny when I was re-reading the thread and watching everyone trying to get him to cough up those sketches. :stuck_out_tongue:

I plan to do these in the future if Saiki or someone else doesn’t beat me to it, so because they are on my list of stuff to do already, I’ll comment on this quote. I want to thank you TS for bringing up the Vega quotes as he’s an interesting case. He’s the only character whose quotes from SF2, Dash and Turbo were for some reason completely changed for SSF2 and SSF2X. He went from 6 old to 8 all new ones. All other fighters retained their old ones and gained at least one new line for SSF2 onwards. For the quote above:

“You should be thankful I didn’t kill you. You’re not even at that level.”

You might’ve missed a “re” before “beru” which read together as “reberu” is just “level”. Just saying his opponent is trash not even worth disposing of.

Quote notes are using the arcade versions of the games, so there may have been small differences with home versions like SF2 Dash on the Mega Drive. And in Revival nothing new is added.

TiamatRoar, I’ll include the Vega & Rose CFJ quotes together with Zangief’s Dash account coming up. I did say in one of the SF Comic threads that AAC does state that Vega’s soul proceeded to take over Rose’s body during their Z3 fight, don’t know if you saw it already so I’m saying it here too. Yay! Plot Guide 4.2 is here! Still need to go through it, take time that will.:bgrin: Large update.

Glad to see Saiki’s still speaking. Wish he’d come here sometime, preferably with gifts. :rofl:

Yea, I saw that thread :slight_smile: I’m pretty sure that I’ve included that we’ve confirmed that Vega possessing Rose in her ending, but I believe we’re still trying to find the link between SFA3 and SF2 that says that Shadaloo made a new body for Bison. As I’ve stated in the thread, I have every reason to believe this CAN be true (Bison’s soul switching and such is confirmed for Rose and mentioned in Cammy, Guy and Vega’s endings, and Shadaloo is proven to be able to craft bodies out of no where because they did it with Cammy because she was supposed to be his next body in the first place), but it doesn’t seem like anyone’s tracked down the official statement yet (excluding Saiki supposedly, of course) that that was the actual case for his SF2 body existing. I’m hoping that since it’s POSSIBLE that Guy’s and Chun-Li’s quotes to Vega and Rose in CFJ are talking about the soul switch thing (POSSIBLY. Not confirmed, of course), that Vega and Rose’s quotes to each other might give more confirmation or insight :slight_smile:

Come to think about it, didn’t Golden Dragon say that the new Street Fighter Eternal says that Cammy was on a mission to England when she lost her memory there, as opposed to the way SFA3 portrayed it and what Saiki said about it? Is there any chance AAC confirms/states that it was Vega/Balrog who took her to England or anything else about the ‘transition’ of Shadaloo Cammy to Delta Red Cammy? Or All About SFZ3. Or… the Japanese version of Eternal, I guess. It’s possible that Capcom took Cammy’s bio out of older archives instead of out of the new more updated retconned archives as well (assuming the latter exists), come to think about it.

Thanks for the info, guys. That’s one hell of a FAQ. :tup:

It’s a real pity that Capcom haven’t released more info on Makoto, or any of the other SF3 characters for that matter. What’s the deal with them not doing any bios for most of the characters? :bluu:

So, Makoto doesn’t even have a last name? That’s pretty lame.

Oh, by the way:

says the FAQ. So, does anyone have these pictures? Makoto pics are so hard to find, never mind ones of her not in her gi. Er, and I didn’t mean it like that! :sweat:

Kukuku

Maybe…hurhurhur
Just maybe…hurhurhurhur

They didn’t transfer the soul (heehee snigger)

Maybe, they just had a sex change done on Rose…heehee

That’s why it’s Slim Bison. Rose + Hormone Injections = Slim Bison.

Thats why he’s in Thailand still. With all the Transvestites and doctors that do the operations there aplenty.

Snigger

hides in corner

What is Street Fighter Eternal? I’m assuming it’s a plotline and character book, if so, is it in English? prays

Street Fighter Eternal is a book from Capcom (published by… someone who isn’t Capcom. Udon for the American version)

Getting back on that topic, maybe Eternal was just quoting what Bison said to Cammy regarding that, as opposed to that actually being the case (since the case is supposedly how Alpha 3 portrays it now and Saiki says it was Vega/Balrog that delivered Cammy to England/Delta Red)

Can I upload the new Plot Guide to FS.com? I won’t delete it and it has more than enough bandwith plus I saw that many people have already linked to the last version on FS.com but then it got damaged and the older version wasn’t available anymore so if you let me put it on the site it will always be accessable. Keep it alive!