Warriors Fate: Street Fighter story thread, revived

I thought the point was that the US translation didn’t say anything about Cammy being a host body. I think someone needs to re-check the US version, and maybe translate the relevent Jap parts. As far as I could see, there was nothing in the game itself about Cammy being a host body, but I only checked the US game and not the instruction booklet.

My point about Bison was more to do with the inital soul that was split. i.e. We know that Rose and Bison share the same soul, but whos is it? It doesn’t say anywhere that it was Bisons so it might just as well be Rose, or even someone else entirely. What do people think?

Mohammed Ali

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Well, the quotes I gave where Bison tells Vega that Cammy was a host body come directly from the US version, so… there you have it.

As for the latter, Bison states several times to various people that he will come back with a different name and appearance (well, I know for sure he tells Guy that he came under many names) so whoever Bison and Rose originally was is kinda a moot point since the name of the entity keeps changing but it’s the same entity. Bison himself has been around for at least 50 years though (he started Shadaloo 30 years before SFA3) and Rose doesn’t look that old so I’m pretty sure Rose split off from Bison somewhere down the line.

Ok, I said I’ll do that one previous page along with the soul power entry and the HnN question, keep your hat on. :sweat:

My B :sweat:

I finally found the quote in the US version. I was suprised that it is only one line and only in Vegas ending. It might be an idea to check if this is in the Jap version as well.

I think this needs to be checked on a translation point as it is only mentioned once about the history thing (and this can just be misinterpreted from meaning his life time). The history point does however suggest that it is not Bison who was evil as such, but more that someones soul took over partly Bison, and partly Rose. This soul would have had a different name originally if the above quote is true.

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The history thing was only directly spelled out to Guy, I believe, but Bison implies it in several other endings, like when he says to Vega that he’ll be back, but possibly with a different name and appearance.

Cammy being a host body is stated only to Vega but it too is rather heavily implied in other places (such as when he claims he’ll be back in Cammy’s mind).

Although it’s true that the US translation of Alpha 3 could be butchered, I’d be rather surprised if it were THAT butchered. Especially since Bison’s body jumping seems to be a big theme in SFA3 in general, making it hard for me to believe otherwise. What the heck else it could have been mistranslated as, I have no clue…

Here’s AAC’s entry for soul power:

Rose’s free-flowing power. From a righteous heart, mental power changes to physical power, with “ki” called forth contained within. With infinite hidden possibilities, misuse does not invite calamity. Opposite to the representation of psycho power on the screen above as a pale blue shine, presented as a yellow shine.

Cammy’s sentences from Capcom’s SFZ3 webpage:

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Produced by Shadoloo’s wonderous technology, a reinforced human being.
Complete mind control and given a mock memory implantaion, role is concerning fighting data acquisition.
However, her accident has begun.
Vega being troubled with her reaching a state of being, sends out the order to obliterate the rest of the reinforced humans, which she still doesn’t know about.

And the answer to HnN #48; more or less obsolete with the Zero series developments, so enjoy a little piece of history:

As for Sagat, why did he probably become Vega’s subordinate?
Sagat was shown Vega’s overwhelming strength. However, he has no reason to surrender to Vega’s strength. For the sake of his destined rival, Ryu and their fight did he enter into the evil organization. It was believed that if the invariably evil emperor Vega appeared previously to Ryu before him, it’s believed that he would be what is known as goose feathered.
In short, Sagat has no reason to be undeciding for Vega as ruler. However, Vega is different. As a capable follower, he’s treated with courtesy. Second among the ranks of the Shi-Ten-Oh (the Grand Four), after Vega. A close associate is probably not saying too much. Then, ordinarily for the two of them, how do they probably keep in touch?
To start with, do they not compatibly practice their fighting techniques? Vega’s concerned opponent is a fighting style without a doubt, with Sagat personally giving his name and the practice commences, quote unquote. Due to practicing with a strong fighting style, he believes his own moves are polished with Sagat already involved.
In addition, when in Thailand Sagat accompanies Vega as the occasional bodyguard. A strange atmosphere proceeds from the two and an ominous one. One is a high rising one-eyed man after all.
It is believed that Sagat likes to plan a rebellion to rise to the top but, Vega by no means sees this desire. However, would that sort of scene be the same motive for Sagat to become a subordinate?

Goose feathered Ryu, LOL!

Here’s Cammy’s SFA3 bio from the US version if you want to compare.

Enhanced by biotechnology, Cammy is an assassin of Shadaloo.
She was made to be the perfect soldier and killer…
However, Shadaloo had not perfected their control over her mind…
She has no idea what destiny lies ahead of her…

I guess they’re both along the same lines, at least, although the US version omits a lot, it seems.

I think they kind of replaced Sagat’s intention to take control over the organization with M. Bison now (the boxer).

Most likely. Which not-so-rare books are you getting lately, aerialgroove?

Dude, I sent the RC webmaster another e-mail like 3-4 days ago. He still hasn’t replied.

Maybe he’s trying to find a Revival page or other stuff. Uugh! Hope he writes back soon so we find out more about Cap!.

I guess I’ve got the go-ahead to keep bringing out more stuff since no one’s indicated for me to slow down or break or anything, so moving along next time with the pre-mook accounts.

From a small footnote from HnN: at least one of the drugs manufactured by Shadoloo is “doll,” the same drug mentioned in Kanzaki’s manga Street Fighter II Ryu. Not to be confused with SH-11, the drug referenced from the SFEX series; doll is the drug that Chun Li’s father dealt with when he was in the Narcotics Investigations division.

Go as fast as you want :slight_smile: I’ll catch up… someday.

Wow, so that drug really did exist? I remember reading about Chun’s dad going after it but didn’t know if it was canon or not thanks to that drug in SFEX as well as mangas.

So doll is canon, huh? Interesting. Yo vasili10, I noticed that the president in Zangief’s SF2 ending is referred to as ‘Gorbie’. Strange, no?
Some random Japanese SF fansite mentioned that Gen is feared in Hong Kong’s underground society.

I’ve never heard of SH-11. Any more news on it?

Strange, yes. Which version of the game? It’s not in any of the arcade versions or Revival to my knowledge.

Golden Dragon and the Japanese fansite Street Fighter World first brought it to my attention, then found an entry in AAC about it (let me know if you want it translated); specifically it was introduced in SFEX2 Plus according to AAC.

Does SH-11 have the same properties as Doll? No wonder I never heard of the drug since the American version of SFEX2 doesn’t translate the endings.

You don’t have to translate if you don’t want to, just let me know what the drug’s about. Whatever’s easier for you, thanks.