Eternal says originally Shanghai, later hailing from Hong Kong. As for why I didn’t mention that earlier was because I was ignorant to the possibility that both the plot guide would be wrong AND Studio Bent Stuf would neglect putting this info from their earlier book AASF3 into their later book AAC. This is the first time that Capcom has actually placed a “birthplace: such and such” format for SF3 characters Alex and Yun. All other times the box said NO DATA, and AAC didn’t have vital stats on characters either. Sorry, I claim ignorance. :sad:
So this thing deals with all things SF? What do you guys consider Canon? Just the games or the games and comics?
SF canon - None of the comics or the Animes. Some of the games except for ones Capcom retcons (any version of SF2 before SF2 Revival, Street Fighter Zero I and SF3 New Genration.) Also any info from Capcom of Japan especially the All about Capcom Books. Plus statements from Capcom Employees.
Roughly, the canon is -
Slam Master Series
Final Fight Series
Street Fighter 1
Street Fighter Zero 2 (Alpha in the US, Storyline replaces Zero 1)
Street Fighter Zero 3
Street Fighter 2 Revival (Replaces all previous SF2 Games)
Street Fighter 3 Second Impact: Giant Attack (Replaces New Generation)
Street Fighter 3 Third Strike: Fight for the Future
No SF EX Games because they were made by Arika and have contradictory stuff, the biggest one being Gouki(Akuma) getting killed by Kairi.
Crossover vs. Games don’t count.
Rival Schools doesn’t seem to fit.
No problem. Are you sure about Rolent though? All my versions of SFZ2 say Rolento, and all Japanese sources when they print names in English have Rolento as well. Unlike the case with Sagat, the spelling has been the same as the pronounciation. Gomen is just short for “gomen nasai” aka “I’m sorry.”
Here’s my side by side comparison of the English and Japanese versions of the SF Eternal Challenge Book.
Japanese version - It’s about 11 1/2 x 8 1/4 inches. It’s width is about one inch. It comes with a plastic sleeve that contains all of the text and if you remove the sleeve you get to see the cover with no text. The back of this sleeve also has the barcode/isbn info text, and the SF 15th Anniversary logo in color. Without the sleeve, you get the same logo just in grey. Comes with another sleeve that’s about three inches high that covers the lower portion like many Manga compilations have, and advertises the book. It clocks in at 272 pages and has Ikeno’s SF2 cover. Reads from right to left, high quality paper.
English version - About 11 1/4 x 8 1/4 inches. It’s width is about half an inch. No sleeves, so text is on the cover. The back features Edayan’s SF2 Revival portraits minus Gouki and advertises the book, like most US Graphic Novels do and has barcode/isbn info, text, and the same grey SF 15th Anniversary logo. Shinkiro SF Series cover. The quality of the pages is not as high but retains a glossy look like the above. Reads from left to right. Clocks in at 302 pages.
The Japanese version contains a mini brochure that tells you how to get the SF Visa Card that has Ryu and Chun-Li on it. Also on the brochure there’s a drawing not in the American version of Guile fighting Ryu.
The first few pages of both books -
Japanese - An enlarged drawing of Ryu from a pic where he’s fighting with Alex (but you don’t see Alex here, the full drawing appears in both books.) No text.
English version - Shows the Japanese cover, text below the image.
From here on out, to point out all of the similarities would be ludicrous and take forever so for the most part I’m only going to point out differences. Both have all the same artwork, same history of games, same interviews etc., etc.
Special Illustration Gallery Chapter - The English version adds three drawings Shinkiro did for Studio Udon as used as comic book and graphic novel covers. 1) Guile and Chun-Li 2) Vega(Cape) and Ryu 3) Doll Cammy and Chun-Li.
All Character Profile Introduction Chapter - In the English version on the side of each page where you turn the page has an orange side bar that tells the characters name on the page. This is where it points out the name differences(as was discussed earlier.) The English version also adds two pages that translate all of the Japanese Move names into English. Examples - ‘Hadouken - Wave Motion Strike. Rekka Shinken - Raging Fire Grand Fist’ and so on.
All Ending Introduction Chapter - Each version uses their own respective game endings texts for both regions. The US version does translate Gouki’s original SF2 Dialog and ending not in the American version of the game. Other than that, the rest are the same as the US versions of the games.
SF Goods Collection Chapter - Both have the same Chun-Li cold cast statue, the SF credit card again (but shown in different areas in both books) but then they differ greatly.
Japanese version - The SF Anniversary Gashaphon set of SFZ versions of Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li(SF2 outfit), Doll Cammy, Dhalsim, Sakura, Gouki, Vega(Cape), Sagat and Guile. 2 more Chun-Li models and Chun-Li book ends. The Shinkiro drawing used for the US version’s cover with no text advertised as a lythograph/mat. SF Anniversary shirts that were advertised on the Anniversary website. 4 pages in total for this chapter.
English version - Udon’s Chun-Li and Vega(Cape) Busts. The Sota toys of Sodom, Chun-Li, Vega(Cape), Sagat, Ryu, Cammy, Ken, Balrog(Ninja), T.Hawk and Blanka. 2 Chun-Li and 2 Cammy PVC Statues by Yamato. The Resaurus Toys both player versions of Gouki, SFZ Outfit Chun-Li, Necro, Nash, Remy and Sagat. Nuby’s SF PS2 Controllers of Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li and Gouki. Ripple Junction’s SF shirts of Vega(Cape), Chun-Li, Dhalsim, Zangief and Ryu. The SF 15th Anniversary Arcade Stick, the cover of the Street Fighter Alpha Movie, the Street Fighter Alpha 2 Underground Mixxes CD, the DVDs of the US SF Cartoon, Udon’s SF Panoramic All Star Poster (Covers 9-12, SFZ and SF2 cast), everyone’s favorite kid advertised in the SF Anniversary Collection Game for the US PS2 that’s sporting the official Vega(Cape) outfit, LOL! 4 pages in total also.
Street Fighter Comics & Manga Chapter - Exclusive to the English version. Cammy’s Masahiko Nakahira Manga compilation cover, issue one’s cover of Malibu’s Street Fighter Comic, all 8 covers of Masaomi Kanzaki’s SF2 Manga, covers of Udon’s SF Issue 1 Cover (every SF Character minus some from SF 1), Gouki issue zero cover, Chun-Li Summer Special cover, Chun-Li/Nash/Guile issue five cover, Ryu/Gouki/Ken issue 6 cover, the Shinkiro Blockbuster Exclusive Graphic Novel cover with Ryu and Vega(Cape), Jo Chen’s Power Foil covers of Cammy, Balrog(Ninja), Gouki and Ken. 2 pages.
SF Other Pubication, Box Art and related images Chapters - From here it gets tricky, in the US this is two seperate chapters, in the Japanese it’s one so I’ll just group them together, both clock in at 4 pages. Both have EGM’s original Chun-Li/Blanka/Ryu cover and the US Sega Genesis covers of SF2 Special Champion Edition and Super SF2. In the English version you only see the front of these two games but in the Japanese you see the front and back of both. They also have the Super SF2 3DO Game cover, and SF2 Arcade instructions.
Japanese - Sakura ad for the Tokyo Game Show ‘96. A SFZ2 ad. 2 drawings of random SF2 background stuff - Elephant, Car, Samurai Armor, etc. The SF2 Animated Movie Game. Ryu ad for 96’ Aou Show Line and some sort of Japanese map next to it(directions to the show I presume.)
English - SF Stoytelling Game Cover form White Wolf. Living Room Games Capcom World Tournament RPG Rulebook. SFA2, SFA3 and SFAC Strategy Guide covers. 3 Gamepro covers, one with original art of Zangief/Blanka/Ken. Joe Maduriera’s PSM SFA3 cover of Ryu/Chun-Li/Karin/Blanka. Turbo Grafx Fighting Street US front and back cover. SF2 Collection front and back cover for Saturn. Super NES front and back covers of the original SF2, SF2 Turbo and Super SF2. PS2 covers of SF Alpha 1, 2 and 3. SF3 Third Strike Dreamcast cover. Super SF2 ad. Gameboy covers of SF2 Revival and SFA3.
Street Fighter Series Description Chapter - Exclusive to the Japanese version. Shows drawings of all the SF games already in the book and extremely brief descriptions. 2 pages.
Capcom & Udon Roundtable Interview 2004 San Diego Convention - Exclusive to the English version. Interview with Shoei and Kinu Nishimura. Picture of the Udon Staff. Sketch of 2 Chun-Lis done by Kinu Nishimura and Arnold Tsang. 4 pages.
English version has 3 pages of ads. One for the SF Comic and two for the Darkstalkers comic.
And that’s all folks.
Getting off topic here with all the Eternal Challenge stuff going on, but I would like to inform Tiamat about something I found on Yahoo Auctions Japan. Apparently there is a model (unpainted, unassembled, obviously) of Juli and Juni, with Juni sitting on top of Juli’s shoulders. I found it a few days ago and the auction is gone now, but since I doubt that it got sold (it was fairly expensive, don’t remember the exact price though), it might turn up again.
If you want it, you can use Rinkya.com (a proxy bidder for JP auctions, but I haven’t used it personally) or this guy (http://otaku-ya.swee.to/) who has gotten stuff for me before.
To make a search for Street Fighter figures, use this link:
http://search4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/search?sb=desc,cat&desc=���ȥ�ȥե�������&cat=2084040564&auccat=2084040564&acc=jp&apg=2&f=0x52&o1=a&alocale=0jp&mode=1
Vasili10 - So for Yun’s bio in CFJ it lists his Place of Birth as Shangahi in his Profile but right underneath in his bio it says “Living in his birthplace Hong Kong…” Huh?
Wow, come back from vacation in Florida for even more stuff to update the guide with. I think it’s starting to come in faster than I can copy and paste at this rate Oo
Thanks, Siegried. It’s the thought that counts. Hmm, I wonder if that model of Juni on Juli’s shoulder is from the concept sketch in the SFZ3 secret files.
So… what am I supposed to correct about Y&Y’s birthplace now? is confused by the strangeness
And… yea, guess I need to get to adding a bunch of stuff sometime eventually. Meep.
Edit made to the posting, to better fit with what AASF3 and Eternal say. This is one of the sucky parts of translating- looking up a kanji combo and seeing three different interpretations for it, and then a multiple choice test to find the best one. The bio’s “birthplace” can also be homeland or hometown, and the “birthplace” above where it’s Shanghai can also be read as native place.
http://shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1930211#post1930211
To finalize with Yun and Yang, since the plot guide lists birthplace it should be changed to Shanghai, and Tiamat can remove the topic from the “unsure about” things for Yun and Yang. They’re originally from Shanghai but now have Hong Kong as their current home. Hope things are clear now.
Oh eh of course, stupid me. No I don’t mean you can read “Rolent” you pick “Rolento” and it says “Rolent”. The only time ever the name is spoken “Rolento” is in FFR and that was made by Americans who weren’t sure about how the names are spoken either (“Andoree”???). So yes I’m sure it’s supposed to be Rolent Schugerg. Just like Urien, Neck-Row and the rest.
By the way, what the heck is this:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f31034569
That’s some promotion item for the movie. Doesn’t say exactly what it does.
And/or the Super Famicom (SNES) version of SSF2. But yeah, no idea what is it’s function except to be on display or whatnot. 
Weird.
A while ago one of you mentioned that 3 tracks of SF III 3rd Strike are missing on the CD that comes with the American SF AE guide. I tried to find it with the search function but I couldn’t find it, could you say again which tracks that are? I think the Basketball Bonus game sound is missing, at least the game version with lyrics. Thanks!
Another topic. Was SFII The Animated Movie made after or before SSFIIX (the game)? The b/w drawings for SSFIIX look a hell lot like the SFIIAM art (Vega very bully, Sagat with big gin, M. Bison with wicked eyes etc.). Before they looked completely different. If the movie (including Gouki of SSFIIX) is newer than SSFIIX, the look of the SFA characters is probably not as much influenced by the movie as we thought. Another possibility is that the order was SSFIIX, SFIIAM, SSFIIX art.
The game came out 5 months before the movie did, and the b/w art for SSF2X was released at least a month prior to the movie’s debut. However, when things were made and when they were released to the public could be different times which I’m not aware of at this time.
A movie generally takes a long time to make… certainly longer than a game. I would guess that it had been in production since SSF2 was, basically when they had decided on the new characters. They probably just put the Akuma cameo in there while they created SSF2X.
Ok, so we can’t say for sure that the Alpha/Zero look is based on SFIIAM?
The CD has the Arcade songs, so it does have the Basketball song, but only the Arcade one. The Home Version one is different. On the PS2, if you switch it to the Arcade Soundtrack, you can hear it.
The songs that are missing - here’s the thing. In Japan there’s 2 different versions of this CD. The first is a one CD set - that’s what you have that came with the SF AE Guide. The second is a 2 CD set. On the second CD are these four extra songs, but they are ‘bonus tracks’ because they are not listed in the CD booklet. They are the full songs of the Hip Hop Tracks used in the Game. In the Games you here parts of the songs, but they are full five minute songs.
The first song is the one that plays in the intro of the game called ‘Fight for the Future.’ “Make your first move, so what’s it gonna be? Trapped in the New World of Street Fighter 3!” The Second song is the one that plays during the character select screen and goes “Let’s get it on now. Select and make your first pick.” The Third is one that plays in the Home Version’s ending. “I moved on to bigger things and my life is much better.” and the last one is a remix of the first song, also plays in the ending.
So, you get a piece of these songs on the SF AE Soundtrack and in the Game, but you get the full 5 minute versions of them in the 2 CD set. If you can’t find them Online, try searching for Hideki/Infinite along with Street Fighter since Infinite did the songs. Or try to find the SF3 Third Strike Double Pack.
Oh and that Capcom CD you posted up here a while back has ‘Fight for the Future’ if memory serves.
Ah ok now I get it, thank you very much. Is that Basketball song by Infinite, too? I mean the one from the Home version where you only hear the first few words and then the bonus game is over.
I have no idea but chances are it’s them.
Hey, I got Eternal yesterday. This book is fuckin’ priceless. I have no life, so I’m probably gonna oggle it for a bit and then let u guys know of anything that needs to be included/corrected in the plot guide. Time to get anal. Peace.