Nigga you tripping fo real fuck yo Nino Brown shit nigga. Im saying button binding is straight pussy, twist it how you like nigga. Yo lazy ass needs to press button combinations with 1 finger press for something that is originally an arcade game. I know niggas play that shit on consoles but it’s not about that. Fuck the consoles. Son.
How about I press my balls against your mother’s jaw? No-typing bitch:bgrin:
Keep losing and stay your ass in line.
Wow, I hadn’t even considered people thinking turbos would be legal unless explicitly stated. I guess some of us have been playing so long that a lot of the basic rules just seem to be taken for granted.
I only skimmed this thread, but I do like the idea about making a core set of rules that ALL tournaments can easily link to. This would make it easy for any new tournament to just post a link to the core rules and then expand on that for the games their running. I see the core rules being things like no turbos, no programmable buttons, no touching or obstructing your opponents view during the match, paper-rock-scissors for sides, ability to request double blind select, etc. Just all the common sense stuff. That would allow tournaments to list a simple link to those rules and then the standard common stuff we normally see (SF4 on XBox, double elim, 2/3 matches, 2/3 rounds).
About macros: I personally think they’re lame. IMO, if you have trouble hitting the buttons that the game requires you to, you should buy a better input device. Or practice. Or both. However, they’ve been allowed for years so I don’t see that changing. So, whatever. I don’t think I’ve ever lost a match and been like “Fuck! If that fool didn’t have 3P mapped I know I would’ve beat him”. I don’t think it makes a HUGE difference. I just think it’s a lame crutch.
Macros are different from button bindings.
a Macro would be a button that inputs a programmed command such as a 1 button SPD
a binding is LP,MP,HP LP+MP etc. Bindings are accessed through the game menu and are a feature of console games/ports.
I don’t think any tournament anywhere has ever allowed macros, but most tournaments that are held on console do allow bindings.
I also find it interesting the way people are talking about how a third party peripheral gives advantages considering most people here play on a stick, which by it’s very nature is a third party peripheral for consoles.
Nigga why you changin subjects, you hatin on my momma (RIP momma forgive dis nigga he trippin) fo no reason. MOTHAFUCKA.
Bittch ass niggas like you need binding because you need an excuse for not manually doing a move nigga
AWWW!!! Lil nigga knows he’s not going to any tournaments anytime soon…
Whining like a little bitch won’t stop you from losing to pad warriors. Shut the fuck up and play.
Is your mother named KATY by any chance? LOL!!
So having a button mapped to 3k or 3P is considered macro or turbo? I thought it was just normal given as that’s the default configuration for console SF4.
<= Is a non-competitive player so forgive my ignorance.
That’s a macro. Turbo is the switch at the top of madcatz/hori stick that let you hold down a button and it counts as very quick repeating hits.
I only play sf4 online, its my hobby. I have no intension to earn money when playing sf4, so its not my job playing sf4, i am not a professional player. I am not the best sf4 turbogamepad player but i am sure there are the best turbo/macro players waiting to show their best. I am not claiming to be the sf4 world champion (just saying on my website that its a fact i m the first pc SG player). But listen…
Playing sf4 with turbo/macrocontrollers is not cheating. Its still a hardware input device. I want the best sf4 players from the whole world play in a tournament where turbo/macro controllers are all allowed ! So everybody can show his best and the winner of this tournament will be THE REAL STREET FIGHTER 4 CHAMPION because he will beat all sf4 players regardless of their input device, and not only the non turbo players (due to excluding turbo/macro players from offline/arcade tournaments) !!
Therefore there is NO real sf4 champion existing yet.
All sf4 input devices MUST be allowed, so we can have 100 % of sf4 players amount (and not only maybe 30 % non turbo arcade stick players):
- allow gamepads with or without turbo/macro
- allow arcade sticks with or without turbo/macro
- allow keyboard/mouse as input device (there may be some very good keboard players with or without turbo/macro)
- allow key bindings and multiple key bindings (one button with 3P with autofire, another button with 3P without autofire for example blankas ultra delay) ==> requirement: allow software keyboardTOgamecontroller mapping tools like rbjoy or xpadder for the PC platform
- disallow software trainers which access the game RAM for cheats (like infinite energy)
- disallow software trainers which start quick combos through access to the game RAM-Manipulation
With those kind of rules in an offline tournament i say COMPLETELY ALL STREET FIGHTER 4 PLAYERS can take part and show what they can and how far every sf4 character can go.
All sf4 players who disagree to have these rules for tournaments and ESL, i can only say: “you are afraid of losing vs turbo/macro players ! dont call yourself sf4 champion! dont even dare to tell the world that only you are skilled, and especially stop discriminating other sf4 players who use an input device not suiting your habits.”.
So stop your old fashioned mentality, its time to change.
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You sir, are delusional.
According to your logic, I could bring a special controller to a tournament that has a win button on it. When I press this win button I automatically win the round, and this wouldn’t be against the rules because ‘Its still a hardware input device.’
Turbo should be banned from all tournaments because it’s a hardware function, not software. Only things that are directly suported by the game should be allowed, like mapping 3p or 3k to 1 button because everyone has access to that, not just a select few who have special controllers.
^^^^:wtf:
To all the people who said 10 would be better then 09…
…Where is your god now? :razzy:
raeli brain hurt
y u hurt me like dis?
What is that bot ramblin’ about?
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt because you’re from Germany, so there should be a language barrier in your favor.
Unfortunately you clearly speak good english, you just have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.
Really, this is early nomination for the worst post of the year.
Wow…really?
Worst post of the year for sure.
You wanna say that I’m scared of losing to a turbo/macro player? How bout this. that turbo/macro player is too lazy to learn how to actually play a game.
You guys are getting trolled, there is no way anyone could be that misinformed.
That or Valle has his point proven in person.
I often wonder about people with auto-aim cheats in fps, people with bots in mmos or people with macros in fighters… Do they actually get any enjoyment out of not playing the game? What can possibly be fun about letting the computer do all the work. Seems a bit… Sad or even disturbed to me.
The only possible answer I can imagine is that they’re like 10 year olds who’re getting a laugh out of being “naughty”. That’s the only possible reason I can imagine that doesn’t involve some mental or emotional problem 
If you don’t want to play the game, then just don’t play the game and do something else. Geez. :rolleyes:
Edit:
Anyway… All you really have to do in a fighter is add like air control, punishments for repeating identical combos too often and/or some other non-predictable factor that needs adapting, and most macros would be worthless. I think. You could also add in some rule that forces you to hit stuff on the right frame (if you hit any button during the animation before the correct frame, it stops taking input) - this would stop turbo but also double tapping unfortunately. Actually, that might need some extra thought to make it work with links. But should still be doable.
Hundreds of thousands of people already learned to play the game right, they shouldn’t have to relearn how to play with turbo/macros just because a bunch of new kids don’t want to put in the time to learn basic shit. Possible exception for 3P/3K macros on SF4 because it pays the bills and is basically a console only game in the US. I’m glad Capcom kept it real and didn’t include a PP button in MVC2. To all those who said it would and should be legal when the game was awaiting release and we all assumed it would be included for the new/casual players…
“In your fucking face! I was right!” :rock:
I was always under the impression that Turbo was not allowed in any tournament, but I guess Mr. Wizard’s post has proved otherwise. Turbos should be banned. Using a pad vs. a stick is one thing, but using a function on the pad / stick that gives one player an advantage over the other is not fair game anymore. Strange how something like this was overlooked. I think it should be something that’s written in the tournament rules so that people are aware.
People will sit there and argue that it’s not cheating since the TE and SE sticks have turbo. -_- That’s the worst part, the Tournament Edition stick has turbo so people will use it.