wow lol some people really need things spelled out to them. if they bothered to read past the first 3 lines they would actually understand the point you are making.
Also i LOLd when i saw showstopper rage like that after trying to counter pick with phoenix.
He hasn’t played a single Hulk or Sent in the 6 months of the game’s release?
I’m not insulting Noah. I also would have got blown up at EVO as soon as I faced someone who knows how to block.
Apparently most of the MvC3 players at EVO didn’t.
I tried to bold out some of the points a bit but again…I post on thought so you’re not going to get super structured essays or anything.
I got some extra fun pictures that get the point across also.
2 things; cheap has a lot to do with wining and you’re over looking that some characters are cheaper than others and some characters have cheaper strategies they can employ hence tiers. Phoenix did a lot in that regard then; she made the other guy not play the game he’s comfortable with playing because of her mere existence on the team. It’s called getting metagame.
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Sometimes Wesker and Haggar failed and he had to opt for the BS 50/50 “kill one character, left right laser line kill the next 2” Dark P. strategy that is definitely on the old man cheap stuff. By the time they died he usually had the 5 any way.
shrug Totally a question to ask him, amirite? I’ve been off doing my own thing. I think I’ve played good-ish Hulks twice in the past six months.
Fuck, man, in MvC2 people eight years into the game were losing to hidden tricks and tactics that they hadn’t seen before/didn’t know the simple counter for. People getting blown up on the big screen (and thus nervous) playing against an eight year old (playing a little loose) and being loudly booed (and thus feeling guilty about laming him out as they needed to) … not too surprising. 
People like you complaining are why the rest of us get stuck with boring games.
Man, I hate losing when I’m playing for unicorns.
Maybe it’s more fair to say that he didn’t have experience against Hulk and Sent in the way Noah was playing them (using Armor in situations where his characters were at frame disadvantage).
The people posting in this thread talking about noah winning showing how bad the game is are scrubs. It shows that the strategy employed by a 8 yr old would probably have beat them. I commend noah for showing how much the overall thought process has gone down on video games. Any player who could not formulate a valid strategy to beat a 8 yr old kid who only up exchanged and did jump S and mashed on stand H with hulk without assist deserves to lose. As far as the discussion as there was no 100 percent combos in mvc2 gtfo. Most matches in mvc2 usually came down to one hit granted the execution requirement in the game was higher j360 and buckethead could do it every time. Also the incoming guard break was inescapable ppl forgot about jump roundhouse with mag to triple dhc i see. As far as viscant winning evo he deserved the win he proved that he was a smarter player than 99 percent of evo. You can blame insert top player here for creating this mess if most of the top players would have just did what they usually do and pick top tier char results may have been different. Instead you have a whole community bashing a player for doing what you supposed to do at any competition that you do and thats playing to win. If phoenix wolverine is the most broken char in the game then play phoenix wolverine and win. It didnt stop these top players from playing chun and yun in 3s, or storm, mag, sent , and cable in mvc2, or yun, yang, and fei in ssf4. In UMVC3 there will be another char like phoenix and wolverine and in ssf4:ae 2012 there will be another yun, yang, and fei.
P.S. Sorry for the long post just couldnt help myself also to srk learn to read the original post is in no way bashing viscant if anything he is trolling all the players who didnt learn to read.
Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing as you when I read that post.
Also, for everyone saying that 'it’s easier to kill characters in mvc3 than it is in mvc2…"
so what?
I’m no tourney player, but I’d think that at high level play, you should assume always that your opponent will have the skill and execution to do 100% combos on you, know your tricks, and know their own tricks in a game like marvel. That way you’re not going to be salty when it actually happens, and are not going to develop sloppy bad habits and get punished for it, or try to use tactics that rely on element of surprise. Basically, relying on your opponent to suck is a bad strategy.
Ease of execution in marvel 3 basically just means that more people are actually going to give you what you deserve when you get hit, and execution barriers are not going to cover your ass. Either way it still comes to the same thing in the end.
lol, how this thread went from
DJ posting
then everybody whining about their inability to read, and people jumping on that bandwagon
then somebody calling them out for not reading… and people jumped on that bandwagon…
I’m going with… 3 people actually read all that.
Gary Sinise plays mvc3?
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I will give Noah a lot of credit in his match against ChrisG, especially in his first game.
He did the right thing X-Factoring with Sent early to kill Wesker and he effectively mixed up his Ryu coming in.
He did good in that game. Not just “good for a 8-year old”, but good for a player, period.
Love this thread, especially the way it exposes the ADD readers. It should be a sticky on front page of site until next Evo, haha. New generation of players are just getting way too soft. All Viscant did was just use the right tools, all this hate and salt being thrown at him is pathetic. Playing dirty as possible is what Marvel (or FGs in general) is about, that’s how you expose these games for what they really are and advance the metagame further (if possible). I mean look how Justin was pulling anti-Phoenix tech out his ass, it failed in the end but that was a great attempt. Playing dirty pushed someone like him who didn’t want to use Phoenix to such extremes. Not like it was all Phoenix either, Viscant built that team a certain way for a reason. He’s been coming up with Marvel tech and team building theories for over a decade. Wesker wasn’t just some pretty mascot on the team.
New gen just scream “Patch dat, Patch dat” and want to be e-celebs instead of getting shit done.
I’m not salty anymore because in my opinion that Tron comeback won EVO anyways.
Preppy droppng all that pink in this thread has reminded me of an even more important question: has Viscant’s brother lost his virginity yet?
That aside, DJ I’m not sure the edits to the original post really helped convey your point. The pony pic is hilarious, but the new content sort of adds a bit of unneeded snark that pushes it past parody and into the realm of Dead Sea Salt. The expanded comparison to MvC1 wasn’t necessary, imo, as your original points of having an old-school play-to-win mentality stood well on their own without need for fancy and distracting diagrams and long points that make us forget about the first paragraph.
That said, inconsistencies aside I still very much agree with your original point. The chances of character balance changes improving the attitude of someone who already hates the game at its core as very, very slim. It’s just Pohl’s Law: Nothing is so good that somebody out there will not hate it.
somewhat appropriate.