Video Game General 7.0: Day Juan Ys: MoC June 9th & Wonderful 101 June 30th!

No you dont.

It doesn’t matter.

It doesn’t matter.

No it’s not. Please stop.

It will never be the future because no matter how much the technology improves.
You still have the inherent flaws of the cloud.

On the technical level, it will never be comparable to playing on the hardware.
You will alwways have latency and input lag.
They can try all they want, but it will never be the same.
It will always be the inferior experience.

Add that you dont really own the games, and the moment that the platform dies, you lose everything.
Or if there are changes in legislations around the world you can effectively say good by to your library of games.
That is specially true in places like latin america, where we have seen stuff being removed or our access denied because the rights over something are no longer provided to our region.

The only reason why it worked with movies and tv is because that is a passive medium.
With games you interact with them, so all the streaming problems become forefront at the center of the stage.

Usually those who hype it arent really gamers, and are mostly interested on the tech behind it.
If they were really gamers they would inmediately understand the limitations of it and why it wouldnt catch on.

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Uhhhh, Heca? It was sarcasm. That shit don’t work and won’t work and even if it does, people will still rather actually own their games either physically or digitally.

Riveting. Here’s my counterpoint then.

“You’re nitpicking and biased. I win. Bye-bye.”

You know well is hard to tell sarcasm via text, specially when your post doesnt have any kind of hint to it, lol

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Man for 15 years I have played CoD and can tell you that that fanbase still doesn’t know what it wants even though you get each year now a different type of CoD from one of 3 different studios (and 2 supporting ones) that caters to different styles. I don’t know why I keep doing it to myself but here i am.

The only time in recent memory that fans crying out worked was for the Sonic the Hedgehog movie.

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That was what the laughing emote was trying to convey. :rofl:

Oh well, as long as we’re clear on that, it’s all good.

I was speaking on the time travel aspect, nice attempt to mix my intent up tho. And it’s an Avengers film, it could be drizzling shit and still do numbers

Riveting. Here’s my counterpoint then.

“You’re nitpicking and biased. I win. Bye-bye.”

Was actually editing my post when my battery died to add more. Sorry but I’m at work and dont always have time for big long explinations.

I’m not nitpicking I’m using words for what they mean.

In fiction, a plot hole, plothole or plot error is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story’s plot. Such inconsistencies include things as illogical, unlikely or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

That’s what a plot hole is. Knowing or not knowing who first played the Song of Storms does none of the above therefore it isn’t a plot hole. It’s a question with no answer which isnt the same thing as a plot hole. Plot holes break stories. This doesnt break the story, it’s just an unimportant piece of information that never gets answered because it isnt important. It doesn’t matter who played Song of Storms first.

It’s a stable time loop and again an example of oot using time travel well.

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You literally said you were the only guy who liked Endgame, because you didn’t think too hard about the time travel… How am I mixing your words up? Lmao.

I realize you’re probably exaggerating but I couldn’t have addressed your post more clearly

Right, a stable time loop with no origin point isn’t an illogical and impossible event.

Alright then.

It does have an origin, but it is never explained because is not the point of the story.
Which is why is not a plot hole.

Not every question needs answers.

Want an example?
Groundhog day.
You are never told why the loop started, why he was the only one who remembered anything done the previous iteration of the loop, or why the loop finished once he became a better person
The story is not about that, and doesnt need them answered to work.

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I was exaggerating, no shit Sherlock. Statistically impossible for me to be the only dude out of billions to like it😑

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Successful doesn’t mean good.

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I don’t care if ya’ll personally disliked the movie. I was poking fun at the implication that he’s even close to being the only person who liked it. Millions loved it, hence its success.

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How do you know that? In fact, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

That’s a terrible example.

In a movie, every explanation or even a simple allusion requires time, which is precious in a movie.

In a videogame, this isn’t an issue. You can literally have any NPC say “It’s rumored that the Composer Brothers wrote a song that changes the weather.” and leave it to the player if they’ll find it or not, but it is an explanation that alludes to an origin point.

OoT does nothing of the sort. It does a plain stable timeloop, and my argument is that a stable timeloop without an origin point is a flawed loop and a plot hole.

Like i said, is not the point of the story.
Is natural to want answers.
But not getting them means that it is a plothole.

You maybe dont like that, which is fine.
The problem is that you are projecting your dislike of the game not delving into it with something that it isnt a problem.
The story doesnt break because the origin of the loop isnt explained, the logic of the story is not compromised.

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So as long as the story doesn’t collapse on itself, it doesn’t count as a plot hole?

You know what, this ain’t going anywhere and both of you dealing in absolutes mean it won’t go anywhere. I’m done. We’re effectively working with different definitions at this point.

You’re aware that ANY Avengers film would do financially well on name alone, correct?

You’re also aware that ppl can pay for a game or movie, then afterwards shit on it after having experienced it, right? That’s kinda how you judge things…

But anyways, we will never agree on this so I’ll drop it🤷🏾‍♂️

At this point we are arguing semantics.
You say that it is a plothole, and we are pointing out it isnt, since that is not what a plothole is.

We are working with what the definition of what a plothole is.
Yours, is simply wrong.

You can say it is a problem you have with the story.
But it isnt a plothole.

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