The problem isn’t the definition, I used the exact definition RSG3 posted. It’s the scale.
I consider it a plot hole, regardless of its impact on the story, because it fits the definition.
You don’t because it doesn’t compromise the story.
See the problem?
No problem at all.
You are arguing that once you go outside the scope the story it becomes a problem.
A plothole is always contained within the context of the story.
It isnt a plothole because the story wasnt about it, and it isnt needed for the story to work.
The story works the same if is explained or not.
The only thing that changes is that you get the answer to the question.
No I’m not, wtf are you talking about? 
It’s an in-universe event, the whole thing is inside the scope of the story.
Is an event that happened within the context of the story, but is not what the story is about.
It is very different thing.
So is this so called plot hole in FF7 is confirmed or is this some unconfirmed spoiler that turns out to be bull shit like always?
Also the OG FF7 have several flash back sequences in the game, few are even playable.
Probably some idiot mistook it for time travel.
Which is why I said that we disagree on the scale.
Hell, the whole “it’s not what the story is about” is broad af. The story is about defeating Ganondorf and restoring the future.
Meanwhile, for me, a small plot hole is still a plot hole. It’s noticeable and not completely irrelevant because it’s linked to a relevant plot point.
Maybe there’s a reason for that…? I mean, there’s a multitude, but it’s almost like they’ve spent a decade building up some kind of cinematic universe. Complete with mostly consistent writing and genuine attempts to compromise and course correct for their audience.
Either way, wasn’t the point of my original post. I don’t know why some of ya’ll are so fixated on convincing me it’s a bad movie. That was never the discussion.
This was also never part of the discussion.
Is not a plothole because the story works the same be explained or not.
Is that simple.
Learning some speedrun strats from this guy. It’s fun to watch him play RE games. He fucks up a bunch and still beats it in one hour, no infinite weapons or shop upgrades.
Seems like there’s a new way to wavedash up and down stairs with Jill’s dodge. The way he dodges into cutscenes and set pieces to shave off seconds is impressive. Totally skips the grenade launcher too. Also, I’ll never be this good at dodging Gammas.
Thanks P5R for reminding me how much I want to strangle Kamoshida.
…Lore arguments remind me of all the worst cliches of nerdery.
The pervy, abusive gym boss right? Yea, I hated him the most. I lowkey felt like he was the worst of all the antagonists simply because children were involved
Man, lot of discussion on FF7RE I missed I see.
Personally I’m not sure where I stand on remakes changing a story but, the biggest thing I would say is that a remake doesn’t invalidate the original content. You can still like, appreciate, enjoy, and play the original content just as it was. So it’s hard for me to ever really say a remake should never change the story. It wouldn’t be the first time an adaptation has greatly diverged from the original content. Of course, I AM of the opinion that there aren’t many cases of those divergences going well, but they do exist.
And sometimes they can even create renewed interest in older content.
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Don’t watch this if you’re planning on playing P5 and you don’t want to be spoiled
This game is gonna be hella divisive. I can’t wait to see some of Srk’s opinions.
For me, as long as the gameplay is fun, i doubt that any change in story would be a problem.
They will need to make some stupid shit like TLJ levels of fuckery to actually make it happen, lol.
Nothing within the narrative of OOT says its illogical or impossible, you can’t just declare that it is. Sorry.
Yes. That’s exactly how that works. It’s not a fucking scale.
No one cares what you consider a plot hole. A plot hole is a well defined thing and this isnt it. Sorry.
Don’t jinx it.
So, I just read up the story on FF Wiki.
That game wasn’t made by sober people. Wtf. Gonna read the actual script to know what characters say line-by-line later, now I’m watching a demo run.
I have to say. This game looks absolutely amazing. Combat seems like a ton of fun too.
I dunno, I might scroll up and just click those spoilers. If the changes are for the better, screw it. We take those.
Hey, don’t get mad, I just used your own definition.
But whatever, we’ll just agree to disagree on that one. (again. )
Using my own deffinition proves my point dude.
But sure stick your fingers in your ears, I know its easier.