I also don’t get how it can combo. Will we be doing the CH with Ultra’s fr.dw motion and CH will get cancelled and not linked? Cause it cannot link that way it is a long animation, that CH, and the charge will die until it finishes. If it gets cancelled, why not put the same buff for U2? 
Why would I feel the nerf especially when I’m predominantly an offline player and actually pay attention to my spacing? I feel it online because lag heavily affects my spacing and execution, but I couldn’t give two shits about online.
Its pretty rad that the CH nerf didnt effect your gameplay, but to me that nerf is why i didnt give a shit about AE
Changes are ok, nothing i was really looking for but at least its better than getting random nerfs.
It should fix this: [media=youtube]PA5mVUE22dw[/media]
Unless there are ninja buffs to U1’s start-up or hitbox (or CH juggle time) this is the fix (my guess)
Because it would combo from a move that has ‘quick’ startup (14f, hard to actually react to), long reach, is safe on block if not done point blank and would do 464 damage without using any super meter. Don’t get me wrong, I would gladly use it…
Is this refering to the meeting from a few days ago? lol.
So if you’re playing offline you don’t “feel” the fact that your only option after a blocked CH is to block? That you can not continue pressure in any way (frame trap with cr.LP, throw, etc?), lose all momentum and have to sit there and take their counterpressure because you can never be at a frame advantage?
Guess your “offline” must be better than my “offline”…
just FYI but Akuma’s vortex has been hit pretty hard
Oh dear you’re playing the “I’m better than you.” card.
Get off your high horse.
And no it wasn’t referring to the meeting where I wanted to yell at the people torrenting in my house for making my connection laggy as hell that night.
I’m already having deja vu with this argument since I’ve had this conversation with (most likely you) several times now. Vega is still able to do more than block. You can still throw, a throw is still higher priority than a 3f normal, you will likely get teched, but this also means that you can STILL condition them into doing other things.
Sure you can get DP’d, but you could anyway before the nerf.
You’ve lost a frame trap ability, Vega’s frame traps aren’t 100% stellar compared to someone like, say Bison, anyway, so usually your options are nj, backdash (which there’s no point, youll usually be caught by a jab) etc
Personally when I went to Evo and bodied people in casuals I didn’t feel the nerf at all. And yes, I was playing decent players who were OS-ing me if I wasn’t careful, that were doing frame traps so I’d get eaten for accidentally tapping buttons.
But meh, whatever. My opinion is invalid because I forgot I must bow before everyone else because I’m a scrub.
I never wrote anything like that nor am I sitting on a “high horse”. I have not invested any real quality time into the game since AE is out because my priorities are elsewhere ATM. I state my opinion on certain thesis’ and try to manifest my points with facts. But you seem to take it personal every time I try to disprove any of your points.
I have not really played you and I don’t know if you’re good or not, so please, participate in the game theory discussion if you want and don’t take any of my posts personal because they aren’t.
Aside the fact that it’s always pretty much my posts concerning stuff like this that you jump on?
The sarcasm of “Guess my offline is better than yours” kinda pointed to what I was saying, but oh well. I’m pretty sick of this forum because everytime I try to help, someone has a problem with that.
I don’t feel the CH nerf to the degree that it seems that you’re stating in text. It IS noticible, but it’s not like it’s nothing that can be adjusted to and by now should have been adjusted to. I was personally more sad about U2. You can still auto correct for anti-crossup, but 90% of the time you’re being crossed up at higher level, it’s safe.
That was for your pun in your previous post.
Aside the fact that it’s not a pun and actually the truth in that I don’t actually care when it comes to online. I prefer offline and play offline when it’s available to me, which until recently was every month. I have actually not played this game, sans the day I bumped into you, since the middle of October because I don’t have the offline and online is garbage and forever will be garbage until my parents can learn to stop torrenting.
bow accepted 
If you ask me Sim is the new #1 character
Honestly, I was debating with Cody being near the top this time. It’s gonna be weird this time around. So many characters got weird buffs that make you go “…why?”
Palm isn’t an overhead anymore which is fair and doesn’t really hurt his vortex that much, it still punishes focus and jump pretty heavy with another hard knockdown and acts as a safe demon flip. And after forward throw the double dash safe jump is gone, the cross tatsu after will probably still hit. Maybe there will be other setups after forward throw that work now, who knows, but I think the vortex is still pretty much intact.
And now that U2 does more damage after teleport and every Akuma will learn cr.MK U2 after seeing Daigo do it consitantly (which is actually pretty easy), he is in really good shape.
My predictions for Top are: Akuma + Sagat followed by Fei, Seth, Viper, Honda, Yun
yeah I guess I looked at those 2 nerfs being bigger than they are…
in that case my predictions are Akuma + Sim (A+), then Sagat(A), then Honda, E Ryu, Ken and maybe Yun (A-).
I expect Vega to be right smack dab in the middle at the #20 position (B)… 19 characters above and 19 below.
(actually I’d consider B being the lowest and him just sharing it with 19 other characters)
My top 3 is now Seth Akuma Honda tbqh.
Vega will be alright in this game, as he has been in every SF4 game. He will never be the beast we want him to because to be frank, Vega with a few changes like chain cancelable lights and I frames and FADC on ST’s would be borderline retarded and Capcom knows this.
i just wanted bigger hitbox on cHP and sHK
I would have liked that. Sick of Boxer and Dudley being able to jump in on Vega for free.
well… it’s done now. let’s see how this plays out. 2 weeks from now we’ll get our update.
what you think about the FA buff?
focus attack buff? it’s better, sweet. not much else to say
sky high buff? I’ll probably try it, although ppl can still crouch under H sky high claw, i would have seriously considered just using H sky high claw for trick crosssups where i use EX SHC now but i don’t think it’ll hit crouchers
Ultra 1 buff? Sweet and FP Yeah it’ll hit airborne, it’s a juggle state across the board. 100% juggle potential regardless of AA or ground. I’m glad it will actually hit on the way down now. Pretty tired of that thing being essentially a half-baked ultra
Ultra 2 buff? Agree with FP, shouldn’t have been nerfed. i’m not a fan of ultra 2 at all >:[
Cosmic heel buff? Sweet
Crouching hard kick buff? I guess this was trouble for scrubs in super so they made it less powerful? Not really a =O move at any rate… it’s still decent but i prefer the fact it makes vega small and move, not necessarily it’s damage
Overall obviously vega got better
As for the question of whether Vega is better now than he was in super… of course he is and i’ve said that since i learned c. mk is 6 frame start up
that move is bananas
It’s been said lots of times in other treads. And I still find nothing retarded about this. Not chain jabs maybe but 2 fr. links and a 3 fr. start-up would be perfect. Anyway, no reason to discuss these again.