Like I posted above, I am currently consolidating this thread, I’ve read every post and collected useful information, I just need try and organize / rewrite them but time is a limited ressource at the moment with unforeseeable RL-issues, my (realistic) goal is to present it at the end of January.
Dunno, I failed to get it out faster than 10 frames. It’s possible that I was just missing the perfect timing, or maybe there is some weird rule that prevents airborn moves from coming out on the first frame after you complete the jumping animation.
Just realised while looking and frame datas and comparing Guile’s air throw to Vega’s, I have just realised it has “1~4” before saying “Throw range 1.2”. What’s that 1~4 there? Its mostly used to stand for the invincible frames, but it obviously is different here.
i don’t see it
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Guile
But i think it’s inaccurate anyway. Guile’s air throw is now 3 frame startup. I think it was referring to a 4 frame startup
Talking about Vega’s air throw. Start ups and everything is on the table correctly. But this one is in the notes section of the move: http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/nov/13/vega-claw-frame-data-street-fighter-4/
oh i don’t use eventhubs’s data. they tend to lack on the most up to date stuff.
Use srk wiki. I personally updated the data for Vega on there
Oh, I didn’t know this one. Tnx.
So it seems Guile’s air grab is better than Vega’s now. Nice :bluu:
kinda sorta, maybe, maybe not-ish… just the startup is better. Vega has the advantage in range though
They have the same start-up now (3 fr.) why would you say his is better?
I was mentioning the range when I said Guile’s is better, cause I was looking at EventHubs’ frame data, and it says Guile has 1.25 range, Vega 1.20. Then I looked at SRK wiki and it says Guile’s range is 1.07. Don’t know which one to believe as they both are not up to date (they still both show Guile’s start-up is 4 fr)
Guile’s air throw start up is 3 frames
Vega’s air throw start up is 4 frames
Vega’s air throw reaches further than Guile’s
This is why i said I dont use eventhubs info. It’s rarely up to date. Last I looked (and if what you say is true) then EH is still on Super’s data. 2 versions behind. At least SRK is only 1 version behind at most.
The range for Guile’s air throw didnt get buffed in 2012. Just the startup changed from 4 frames to 3.
Vega got no buffs or nerfs to air throw in 2012.
Oh, ok tnx.
Vega’s air throw is 3 frames.
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ok… that’s enough errors for one week… I’m not saying anything else about frame data till i re-memorize vega’s shit
It’s all good, that’s what the wiki is for. Always good for anyone to keep themself honest with this sort of thing.
Waiting patiently. Not a “WEHRE IS IT?!” comment, but a sign that this is still very much appreciated.
he said he was going to be pretty busy
I’m pretty sure I can finish it this weekend. 
Ok guys, I just updated the first posts. It turned out much more sloppy than I intended because my time is very limited at the moment. I will clean up over time. This is still work in progress. I want to go through other threads in the next few days!
I went through the whole thread and used stuff that I found very useful. I didn’t have the time to test all myself so if anything is wrong, please tell me. Also if you think I missed something, post it or send me a PM with a link to the specific post.
Unforunately I didn’t realise until I had all info gathered that I forgot to note the names of the contributors. I’m very sorry, I try to quickly go through it as soon as I can and will get you the credit.
For the character specific sheet, I used all info I found for setups and stuff tested for all characters. As I’m writing this I realise that I forgot the safe jump data… Will follow soon as well as a better sheet design -_-
finally, now on to studying…
Hi guys, just starting out with Vega
I saw the safe jump setups in the first posts, but was wondering if you guys have any off of front throw or air throw?